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If you are still waiting for the vaccine or chose not to have it

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QuietBatPeople1 · 18/04/2021 17:17

Are you feeling anxious/nervous? I struggle with anxiety as it is and have been working from home all through last year and until now. I follow every rule and still wipe down grocery/quarantine mail etc.

Now that the rules are relaxed by the government and judging by the high street today (I was not in the high street was driving past to get to a woodland for a walk) I think the public has pretty much decided that the pandemic is over.

I feel quite anxious now as inevitably work will want us back- the vaccinated at work will have a blasé attitude and not be strict about following the rules. How am I going to protect myself?

Is it a case of carry on being anxious until my turn to vaccinate and keep my fingers crossed OR if I chose not to have the vaccine then is this a way of coercing me to go for it?

OP posts:
QuietBatPeople1 · 18/04/2021 20:46

My daughter would be back in school from Tuesday so would be at an increased risk

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Whyevencare · 18/04/2021 20:56

Just turned 50 and did not take the vaccine.

I don't know anyone who's had the virus let alone died.

Back in the office since August 2020 (20 employees), no social distancing or mask wearing and no-one has been ill Confused

Cases in my area are non-existent.

I'll also rely on my immune system, no concerns whatsoever.

Waxonwaxoff0 · 18/04/2021 21:05

@Dowser I'm convinced that I have some sort of natural immunity to be honest. We had a mass outbreak at my workplace in January and I didn't catch it despite being in direct contact with 2 people who turned out to be positive. I know I didn't have it because I got tested.

NearlyAlwaysInsane · 18/04/2021 21:06

Not vaxxed and not anxious. In my 40s. The summer is coming and with it the already low rates may well get even lower, like last summer. And if vaxxing doesn't happen for me in the summer, I am sure I will eventually be offered the new vaccines that will undoubtedly be needed come autumn and the arrival of new variants and all the jollity that that will bring (for the earnest ones among you, and there are many on mumsnet, that was a joke).

Waxonwaxoff0 · 18/04/2021 21:08

@QuietBatPeople1

My daughter would be back in school from Tuesday so would be at an increased risk
My DS has been in school the entire time, as have many other children whose parents work out of the home. Cases are so low now. It's not normal to be so anxious.
giraffelonglegs · 18/04/2021 21:22

I'm 47, was offered a vaccination a few weeks ago, I declined and won't be having it. Everyone makes their own choice on this very contentious topic and personal anxiety levels are just that, very personal.

I've suffered with anxiety all of my life, but strangely, am not anxious about COVID. I am not complacent though, I am careful with hand washing etc - i trust my immune system, I know people who have had it and they ranged from totally asymptotic to sadly, passed away.

Quornflakegirl · 18/04/2021 21:25

The chances of you becoming seriously ill with Covid is slim.
My DM is cev, has half her lung missing and contracted Covid while I'm hopsital for an unrelated illness. She has needed oxygen as a precaution, has some fatigue but is doing very well.

People seem to hysterical about catching it, like it's an automatic death sentence.

Dowser · 18/04/2021 21:25

[quote Waxonwaxoff0]@Dowser I'm convinced that I have some sort of natural immunity to be honest. We had a mass outbreak at my workplace in January and I didn't catch it despite being in direct contact with 2 people who turned out to be positive. I know I didn't have it because I got tested.[/quote]
I think me and my dh have also.
If it’s not broken why fix it

Buzzinwithbez · 18/04/2021 21:32

My immune system has done me proud so far. I've got no reason to think it would let me down this time.
I don't expect to not get it, but I'm not prepared to join the treadmill of constant boosters, so I guess I wait to have covid....or not. Natural immunity bring it on!

I'm concerned enough by the menstrual changes that women are experiencing and that are being discounted but not explained. I like to understand. They obviously are a thing as they're being picked up in mainstream media now. (But I believe women know their bodies) Now just accepted a side effect but how can we have a side effect that didn't show up in the trials? Could there be any other side effects that didn't show up in the trials? (Apart from the blood clotting which we now know about and I'm happy to accept is minimal... But still... We should have known about them too) so yes, menstrual changes....I want to know the mechanism for those.

QuietBatPeople1 · 18/04/2021 21:41

@Buzzinwithbez I’ll be honest and say this is something which concerns me as well. Changes in menstrual cycles would mean changes in your hormonal levels- which then opens up multiple issues. It’s becoming increasingly difficult to have any conversation about this in real life as more and more people are ready to chew your head off even if you dare question anything about the vaccine

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Buzzinwithbez · 18/04/2021 21:53

[quote QuietBatPeople1]@Buzzinwithbez I’ll be honest and say this is something which concerns me as well. Changes in menstrual cycles would mean changes in your hormonal levels- which then opens up multiple issues. It’s becoming increasingly difficult to have any conversation about this in real life as more and more people are ready to chew your head off even if you dare question anything about the vaccine[/quote]
I've had my babies so I guess changes could be less of an issue for me. However friends that know their cycles inside out have had changes too big to ignore. They know how their body respond to stress etc...covid or vaccines aren't the first stresses women have had in their lives! So it shouldn't just be dismissed. We shouldn't be gaslighted into thinking an unknown side effect is either not happening or is normal! These things should have been picked up at an earlier stage and efforts made to understand the mechanism .....and if they have not called out this due diligence, what else might yet come to light later on? It's not exactly reassuring.

Roonerspismed · 18/04/2021 21:59

Early 40s; no vaccine. Wont take any vaccine for 6 months as watching the data. Really disappointed at how slow the MHRA was to pick up the adverse effects from the AZ; have no faith in them at all.

I think we will need vaccines every 6 - 12 months for new strains which doesn’t fill me with delight either

Anyway, not worried about covid. Just being sensible.

mustlovegin · 19/04/2021 06:35

please do not turn this into anti/pro vaccination conversation

OP, it's not very clear what you are trying to achieve.

If you will take the vaccine once offered, you are bound to have a high level of protection.

If you don't want to take the vaccine you will face a higher risk of catching Covid as we are gradually opening up.

What other alternative would you like to have?

mustlovegin · 19/04/2021 06:42

And for some posters here that seem to still think (after 12+ months) that the virus is not real, I've had 4 acquaintances dying from Covid (one in his 50s, the other in her 40s) and around 30 ill with it (currently my best friend has it). I don't work in a HPC or care home environment

Not trying to scare anyone or to say that you will become seriously ill if you catch it -you might not- but it is a risk you will have to live with

Silverfly · 19/04/2021 06:47

I'm late 40s, I haven't had the vaccine yet but I've booked it, my appointment is next week. I'm still wfh so not at risk through work, but I have three DC who are going to school and travelling there by bus so quite a lot of exposure that way.

I'm not nervous at all. I'm looking forward to getting the vaccine but I know I'm at low risk from covid.

hodgebit · 19/04/2021 07:03

@loulouljh

Not having it and completely relaxed. Don't think about getting Covid. Never have. Please remember how effective the Government scaremongering has been,,,
Have never given Covid any thought and yet you find yourself commenting on a Covid MN chat? Hmm
TheVanguardSix · 19/04/2021 07:07

Not anxious in the least about covid. It was in my household and DH was in ICU with it. I know how horrible it can be. But my brother died a week after his vaccine. He literally bled to death and his body rejected all blood transfusions. It was horrible and it will be a long time before we come to terms with his untimely and traumatic death.
People on MN dismiss the data involving the small number of deaths around the vaccine but when you're the statistic, as my brother is, that small risk becomes absolutely everything.
Covid can go fuck itself. I'm really not that worried about it at all. There was my brother, doing the right thing and protecting himself and others from this virus. Now his wife's a widow and his 3 kids are missing their father.

hodgebit · 19/04/2021 07:07

@Roonerspismed

Early 40s; no vaccine. Wont take any vaccine for 6 months as watching the data. Really disappointed at how slow the MHRA was to pick up the adverse effects from the AZ; have no faith in them at all.

I think we will need vaccines every 6 - 12 months for new strains which doesn’t fill me with delight either

Anyway, not worried about covid. Just being sensible.

All this attitude will achieve (if significant numbers thought similarly) is the continuation of already seemingly endless restrictions and/or a widely circulating virus leading to death and serious illness many orders of magnitude greater than any vaccine side-effects. It's both baffling selfish and stupid.
TheVanguardSix · 19/04/2021 07:14

please do not turn this into anti/pro vaccination conversation

See. I really hate this attitude. My friends refer to me as an anti-vaxxer. Are you kidding me? My children have 3 full red books and the rest.
I'm SO not an anti-vaxxer. With a husband who nearly died on ICU this January and still, to this day, vaccine and all, walks around with weird-ass symptoms, I could not wait for the vaccine rollout! But with a brother who died after the vaccine, you really think I'm going to be running up to the hub and beg for some jab with a shaky data history (and in my very own personal case, a very shitty data history)?
We're very much allowed to not want the vaccine yet. We're very much allowed to observe the data and make an informed decision with time and a decent data history as our guides. And I hate, fucking hate, being made to feel like an anti-vaxxer for this. I'm cautious.

mustlovegin · 19/04/2021 07:19

All this attitude will achieve (if significant numbers thought similarly) is the continuation of already seemingly endless restrictions

There are some who are spreading these ideas with the intention to capitalise on the general public's discontent about necessary restrictions and have an opportunity to fuel disruption and social unrest (which will in turn serve their agendas)

KatherineJaneway · 19/04/2021 07:23

the vaccinated at work will have a blasé attitude and not be strict about following the rules.

Do you know this from observation or is it speculation?

kowari · 19/04/2021 07:35

@Waxonwaxoff0

I haven't been vaccinated, I'm 30. No, I'm not anxious, because the reason I haven't been vaccinated yet is because I am low risk of getting very ill if I catch Covid, the same as everyone else who hasn't been offered the vaccine yet.
Same here, except I've had Covid. Could've worked through it if I hadn't needed to isolate. I'm 37 and in a better position should I catch it again as I was underweight last time. Not anxious at all.
MarshaBradyo · 19/04/2021 07:39

@Bythevennel

No. I've been out working in the community the entire time and I'm still not vaccinated and I'm almost 50. I'm actually quite angry that those of us who have been out working putting ourselves at risk every day are still not vaccinated when many people who work from home are.
45 to 50 can book online. Not sure if you’ve tried, but just in case you haven’t
B33Fr33 · 19/04/2021 07:44

I've not had my second dose yet, and I am distressed by the pressure to "get out there", everywhere people are socialising, shopping, doing so many self indulgent things. It's people going away that shock me the most. After all the outpouring online and actual incidents of bile and aggression from people local to tourist areas, that risk and the risk of the virus to others etc. I'm still avoiding get togethers and family.

Roonerspismed · 19/04/2021 08:46

Why hodge?

Most people want vaccinated and they tend to be the most vulnerable. Let them have their vaccines and be protected. Let me keep my weight low, exercise, eat sensibly and optimise my vitamin D

There isn’t really the evidence yet that vaccines stop mutations. In fact you could argue that if the vulnerable are vaccinated and the younger people get it naturally it will confer greater herd immunity and faster and probably also longer lasting in those who get it naturally (although we don’t know that for sure either).

Obese people are far more likely to become ill from covid and be hospitalised. I don’t see the same vitriol directed at them (and rightly so).

Had the MHRA been either more diligent or less forgetful, I might have more faith but I don’t. And yes my kids are fully vaccinated (except for flu).

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