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This is so fucking sick for the elderly and vulnerable

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Tealightsandd · 18/04/2021 14:20

They won't get another chance to make up for lost time.

Ian McKellen says Covid has robbed him of ‘last few years of capability’

www.independent.co.uk/topic/ian-mckellen

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Tealightsandd · 18/04/2021 14:21

*shit not sick (although sick is quite fitting too).

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RufustheSniggeringReindeer · 18/04/2021 16:54

Its very sad

And in the care homes you could see the deterioration in some of the residents

Flyonawalk · 18/04/2021 17:10

It is very sad. I jammed grateful that the people mention by Ian McKellan can look back on long and successful careers.

If the OP is referencing an earlier thread about how much children and young people have lost this past year, the point there was that youngsters have lost potential, rites of passage, opportunities, chances for success.

Old people and young have suffered differently through this and will be affected for different lengths of time.

Flyonawalk · 18/04/2021 17:10

*Am grateful not jammed!

CirqueDeMorgue · 18/04/2021 17:11

Think it's all a bit shit for everyone tbh.

Lucidas · 18/04/2021 17:12

Ian McKellan isn’t the first person I would think of tbh..but yes everyone has suffered in different ways. Point noted.

PuzzledObserver · 18/04/2021 17:15

I love Ian McKellen. But it’s hardly unique to actors, is it?

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Tealightsandd · 18/04/2021 17:17

Yes I agree it's been shit for everyone. The other thread was full of posts suggesting the young had "sacrificed" themselves for the elderly and vulnerable. The vulnerable of course includes many young, including CEV children.

It's an awful way to end your days, the precious last years left. Either way it's horrible. An actual covid death, or being isolated at home away from the social stimulation that keeps mind and body active.

As for the sending of covid positive patients into care homes.

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Flyonawalk · 18/04/2021 17:32

Millions in the U.K. are vulnerable to normal viruses in any given year, including two and a half million people per year living with cancer. They have always left to manage their own risks, and have often had to live severely limited lives.

It saddens me that society in general didn’t notice the vulnerable until 2020.

CeibaTree · 18/04/2021 17:38

It's really shit for everyone - why do people keep making threads pointing out how crap it is for specific groups? It's not a race to the bottom.

mozerella · 18/04/2021 17:43

@CeibaTree

It's really shit for everyone - why do people keep making threads pointing out how crap it is for specific groups? It's not a race to the bottom.
Agree. It's been hard for my 12 year old DS, my 17 year old DS, my 83 year old MIL, my 72 year old Auntie, in different ways, you can't say one person's tough time trumps another.
RuleWithAWoodenFoot · 18/04/2021 17:45

@CeibaTree

It's really shit for everyone - why do people keep making threads pointing out how crap it is for specific groups? It's not a race to the bottom.
Agree with that. According to here and Twitter, every single group of people has been 'thrown under the bus' too.

It's just been shit, period.

BeenAsFarAsMercyAndGrand · 18/04/2021 17:56

@CeibaTree

It's really shit for everyone - why do people keep making threads pointing out how crap it is for specific groups? It's not a race to the bottom.
I agree. The people I know, of all ages, have had a shit time of it for different reasons. It's not a competition, it's possibly to feel sympathy for everyone affected rather than just picking one group to feel sorry for.
sleepyhead · 18/04/2021 17:56

I saw my parents yesterday for the first time in many, many months.

They were visibly frailer, both physically and mentally than 14 months ago, which is of course to be expected, but I felt it was much more so than it would otherwise have been if they hadn't spent a year virtually house bound.

They're in their mid 70s, both physically very active before all this. I worry they'll never get their oomph back.

Firstworddinosaur · 18/04/2021 18:13

Oh no poor Ian. Maybe just be grateful for incredible career you've enjoyed and been handsomely rewarded for thus far.

Dowser · 18/04/2021 21:33

I’m a good bit younger but I feel robbed of another wonderful year
As does everyone who’s been through all of this

It why we took the decision to live it to the hilt.
I’m so glad we did.
My only regret is we only had two weeks in Tenerife in October instead of three or four
Especially as we never got there in Dec or March this year

megletthesecond · 18/04/2021 21:39

"It's just been shit, period." I need that on a t-shirt.

lljkk · 18/04/2021 23:23

I don't agree that the last years of one's life have more value than other years. Everyone has been affected since the same starting dates.

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Tealightsandd · 18/04/2021 23:34

I agree that every life of all ages has the same value. Unfortunately, I've seen many posts over the last year suggesting that elderly and disabled (of all ages) don't.

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Bearclaw · 18/04/2021 23:41

My mum is 76 and she feels she’s deteriorated physically through not going out. She used to get on the bus and walk round the shops a few times a week. Several of her friends and one of her siblings have died without seeing her again. Her weekly clubs are still cancelled and might never be reinstated because so many members have died. She definitely feels she won’t get a chance to live her life after Covid, it’s taken her last few years.

Mind you, it’s also shit for the very little ones who have spent half their life in lockdown. I don’t think my 3yo remembers what life was like before Covid. All he knows is isolation. He’s never had a friend.

CeibaTree · 19/04/2021 00:00

He’s never had a friend.
Aw that's really sad, poor little chap :( Has he been unable to attend nursery? Hopefully he'll be able to connect with lots of little playmates soon now things are (hopefully) slowly getting back to normal!

Torvean · 19/04/2021 00:56

So sad. Love Maggie Smith.

Florelei · 19/04/2021 08:33

I can’t understand the mindset that because it’s been rubbish for everyone we can’t express that we feel sorry for someone or a particular group of people. It doesn’t mean that we don’t feel sorry for everyone who has suffered - (for me) it just means that I’m focusing temporarily on that particular person (or group of people).

I feel sorry for the younger ones, the middle one and the older ones. Everyone has suffered but I can see what Sir Ian Mckellen means and can feel sympathy for him when reading that article.

twelly · 19/04/2021 09:36

Yes awful for everyone.

Heysiriyouknob · 19/04/2021 10:12

No all older or elderly people have shut themselves away though. My 86 year old dad didn't. Carried on seeing his friends who were similarly out and about, they still had their weekly poker nights. he is on his own so was coming to stay with us once a month.

Dh 94 year old grandmother was still getting the bus into town every day for a walk about as were her friends.

In laws in their 70s we're doing as much as was still allowed, still seeing family and as soon as they could were booking meals out and weekends away.

I think the idea that all older people have been sat at home scared is over the top. None of the older people I know were remotely bothered.

(Obviously not taking about people in care homes, and yes, I do realise that many people were and still are terrified but it's just not been my experience with people I know).

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