Why do people want to go on holidays abroad this summer? (Not travel to family)

[WombatChocolate]

Given we have put in huge efforts to reduce the virus in this country over many months, I struggle why people (not the holiday industry) are so keen to whizz off for a couple of weeks of sun, when we know the virus is surging in parts of the world.

What is this about?

The only thing I can think of which makes any sense to me is that they have already booked, or had a booking carried forward from last year and fear losing the money. Somehow they would rather go than sacrifice the money and that has led to large numbers wanting to go.

We all know that mutants will come into the country through travel and it’s impossible to keep them out, so why do people want to go so much?

Is it that they just love a sunny holiday so much they don’t think about the possible consequences? Is it that they do t want to lose the money? Is it that they are jabbed and so don’t believe their travel can have any consequences? Is it that they don’t know about levels of virus around the world? Or is it that because the holiday industry wants to open up (very understandably) they have been influenced by them?

I really understand people who have family abroad, how difficult the travel issue is for them and I do understand why they want to go and often feel they must go. I’m not asking about that. It’s just the standard holiday I’m interested in, because I don’t really get it.

Anyone who has thoughts about it, or is keen to go and feels like saying why.....many thanks in advance for your thoughts.

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@Tealightsandd

So if you're positive I'm pretty sure you won't be allowed on the plane and sent back home instead Oh so that's ok then. Don't spread it on the plane. Just on the public transport many people going on holiday use to get to and from the airport.

If people don't have a car that's how it goes. Plenty don't know they're positive and get on public transport all the time.

@Tealightsandd

Life is just existing unless it's a holiday abroad? There's a huge amount of life to be had within the UK. Unless we're in lockdown of course. Which is the alternative to temporary travel restrictions.

Who said I was going abroad for a holiday?

Where I live there is no lockdown, no travel restrictions (other than tests and a 5-day quarantine). Your point was?

@Tealightsandd

So if you're positive I'm pretty sure you won't be allowed on the plane and sent back home instead Oh so that's ok then. Don't spread it on the plane. Just on the public transport many people going on holiday use to get to and from the airport.

Well presumably a) you wouldn’t even try and go to the airport if you’d had a positive test and b) if you hadn’t tried to go on holiday you wouldn’t have even had the test and would have gone about your business spreading it all over the place for days and days of asymptomatic...

So it’s kind of like the holiday saves the day!

Society would break down pretty fast if everybody just did whatever they wanted to with no thought to the consequences.

@Tealightsandd

I guess tbf life might be 'just existing' if suffering from long covid. All the more reason to reduced the chances of getting it.

Covid, Covid, Covid is the only thing you talk about. Have you heard of people’s mental health suffering, of those who have lost someone to suicide due to this shitty pandemic, and those who have lost their jobs precisely due to not being able to travel as before?

@Tealightsandd

Society would break down pretty fast if everybody just did whatever they wanted to with no thought to the consequences.

This is why there are laws. If it is legal to travel, then people are acting within the law to do so.

@EileenGC
I was replying to someone else's post.

Oh, the long Covid again 🙄

What does it matter if you have ms, or escaped abuse, as long as you don’t have long Covid?

Massive lack of empathy from the Covid faithful

This is why there are laws. If it is legal to travel, then people are acting within the law to do so.

Not according to tealights. We must all stay put for the foreseeable future, because you know, long Covid and ‘consequences’. Good thing it’s not this poster making the laws

@WouldBeGood

Oh, the long Covid again 🙄

Otherwise known as post-viral syndrome. Always been around. But now it's got a fancy new name and a use as scare tactic. Not really working that well anymore though, hence the hype over 'variants'.

The only way to make Covid go away @EileenGC is to deal with it.

When it comes to mental health, the alternative to border restrictions is lockdowns and mass bereavement. Both impact heavily on mental health. As does long term illness (such as long covid).

Exactly @IcedPurple

With no evidence that the “mutants” are deadly or vaccine immune

@EileenGC

This is why there are laws. If it is legal to travel, then people are acting within the law to do so.

Not according to tealights. We must all stay put for the foreseeable future, because you know, long Covid and ‘consequences’. Good thing it’s not this poster making the laws

Indeed! People engaging in legal activities, how dare they! People with post viral syndrome were thrown under a bus before Covid came along, and so were the 'vulnerable'.

@WouldBeGood

What does it matter if you have ms, or escaped abuse, as long as you don’t have long Covid?

Massive lack of empathy from the Covid faithful

What about those who have escaped abuse and don't want to go through all that only to die of covid or suffer long covid? What about those who are finding it harder to escape abuse in the first place because of lockdowns or because they're CV or CEV?

Suffering “long Covid” is not a reason for restrictions.

Dying of Covid is very unlikely. Restrictions were not to prevent this.

Long COVID is miserable, I know of a couple of horrid cases. But even they can’t wait to travel again because LIFE. And no

And dv and abuse is another reason to lift restrictions not to continue them.

Shock news: we are all going to die

@Tealightsandd

The only way to make Covid go away *@EileenGC* is to deal with it.

When it comes to mental health, the alternative to border restrictions is lockdowns and mass bereavement. Both impact heavily on mental health. As does long term illness (such as long covid).

The world is dealing with it. We're vaccinating, we're bringing cases down, we're protecting the most vulnerable and have done so for over a year. Dealing with Covid isn't just shutting the borders.

I think most people here and in real life, are able to see that both Covid, lockdowns, bereavement and long term illness, AS WELL AS other restrictions such as limited travel impact on mental health. No one is saying either of them is less than the other.

You seem to not be able to accept that there are other things apart from long Covid and deaths, that we need to find a balance on. We're at a point in this pandemic where everything needs to start getting back to normal - yes, before we achieve 0 Covid, which we might never achieve anyway. Chances are very high we won't be able to eliminate Covid. The solution isn't locking up for 5 years to see if we could do it. The solution is learning to live with it. This is an illness with less than 2% death rate. Tell me another one with a similar death rate for which we've ever closed borders before.

@WouldBeGood

Suffering “long Covid” is not a reason for restrictions.

Dying of Covid is very unlikely. Restrictions were not to prevent this.

I think people have forgotten this.

If someone is terrified of 'long covid' they're free to lock themselves up as long as they see fit. But they cannot ask others to put their lives on hold once the health emergency has passed. Sadly for some here, we may soon be at that point.

@EileenGC

This is why there are laws. If it is legal to travel, then people are acting within the law to do so.

Not according to tealights. We must all stay put for the foreseeable future, because you know, long Covid and ‘consequences’. Good thing it’s not this poster making the laws

Good thing indeed... if you prefer the alternative to temporary border restrictions. Which is long lockdowns, ruined businesses, over 150,000 dead, more than 1 million with (confirmed by scan) heart, lung, and other long covid damage, and NHS backlog of 5 years.

No worries pubs, hair salons, restaurants, shops, and other everyday businesses are closed for months.

No matter people can't visit family and friends at home.

It's all ok because you can go on holiday abroad (if we're allowed in).

Yeah great.

The government are 'terrified' of the long term financial impact of long covid. They're concerned about the costs to the NHS and welfare benefits.

What about those who have escaped abuse and don't want to go through all that only to die of covid or suffer long covid?

No one is forcing these people to go abroad. Calm down. If someone doesn't want to 'put themselves at risk' by getting on a plane or a bus this summer, they're welcome to stay at home. I don't see how you could catch Covid yourself if you don't do anything minimally risky, whilst the virus is still out there? Stay at home, and let the rest of us get on with our lives. We'll let you know when it's been eradicated. Probably, never.

What about the businesses reliant on tourism? Collateral damage?

What do you really think tested travelers are going to bring in that import drivers etc can’t? I doyou agreed with Macron shutting the lorry drivers out of France just in case at Xmas time?