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Dailywalk · 2021-04-07T11:23:07+00:00

Was due to meet friends outside this Thursday evening. The weather is freezing though so the plans are changing and friend just suggested we meet indoors. I’m the only one of the 5 of us who seems to be anxious about this. I’ve had Covid and they’ve had their vaccine but if we were able to meet indoors safely then why would the advice be not to until next month? I’m suddenly feeling really anxious about the whole thing and considering just staying at home. What would you do?

Mojoj · 07/04/2021 19:56

@Dailywalk better you stay at home if you're this level of worried. I feel sorry for you.

zenasfuck · 07/04/2021 20:02

I have followed every rule since it all began. I have not stepped foot in a shop or my office since last March

I can count on one hand the amount of times I've left the house at all in the last 12 months

However, I went to visit my parents last week for my dad's birthday. It was raining so I went inside the house. I am vaccinated and both mum and dad had covid in December - the risk isn't suddenly going to lessen because Boris said we can meet indoors - weigh up your own risks and make an educated decision

Katie517 · 07/04/2021 20:28

I would do it, if they are vaccinated and you have had covid there is very little risk and I don’t understand how people get sucked into thinking this will be safe in another 4 weeks time but not now, the situation for the OP will be the same, the date is just a random one plucked out of thin air. Shops are opening as are gyms etc. people will be mixing inside so I really don’t see why low risk friends meeting inside is an issue.

mightbealittlebitmad · 07/04/2021 20:44

Wouldn't bother me but I'm staying with my parents for a few days. As a separated single adult I'm allowed a support bubble so they are it sporadically. They've both been vaccinated 3+ weeks ago and my husband who I share the kids with gets tested weekly at work so the chances are if he's negative then so are we.

In May it wouldn't be an issue if they were my bubble or not but I can't figure out what will be much different. I won't have had a vaccine, the kids will still be in childcare but I'll have been back at work and the gym so coming into more contact with people than I do now so in theory it's less safe. The only difference I can see is more people will be vaccinated but is that not then countered with the fact people can actually do more stuff?

I just can't live with the level of paranoia that I'm supposed to, it's not healthy.

thenightsky · 07/04/2021 20:52

@OpheliasCrayon

If you've had covid and they've had the vaccine what's the problem? Also yes the advice is for next month but ... Do you really trust boris knows what he's talking about at this point with all the stupid choices he's made ? This month...next months 🤷

This.

480Widdio · 07/04/2021 21:01

I would go as well,sick to the back teeth of it all.

Lalliella · 08/04/2021 00:22

@ThereIsIron

People are being ridiculous. The guidance is to cater for the lowest common denominator (i.e. stupid people). We had friends round at the weekend outside (based on 6 from 2). It was bloody freezing by 9pm so we all went inside. We know they don't have Covid, we know we don't have Covid - and we've pretty much stayed apart for a year, so there really isn't a problem. Common sense is all it takes.

You seem to have no concept of irony. People assuming they don’t have covid are the lowest common denominator. Let me spell it out for you too - that means stupid people. For example - you.

Malteser71 · 08/04/2021 00:29

In the USA, people who are fully vaccinated are allowed to meet indoors with others similarly vaccinated.

Because, that’s why we got vaccinated.

So having risk assessed it, that’s what I’m currently doing

islockdownoveryet · 08/04/2021 08:00

@Katie517

I would do it, if they are vaccinated and you have had covid there is very little risk and I don’t understand how people get sucked into thinking this will be safe in another 4 weeks time but not now, the situation for the OP will be the same, the date is just a random one plucked out of thin air. Shops are opening as are gyms etc. people will be mixing inside so I really don’t see why low risk friends meeting inside is an issue.

They are not fully vaccinated though are they only 1 vaccine. You can still catch it or pass it on as I very well know . Ok your less likely to get seriously ill but meet up outside or wait a few weeks . Seriously Covid is not fun even mildly .

bumbleymummy · 08/04/2021 08:07

@laughinggasssing

I struggle with this. All these people saying "what don't you understand?" I'm fully vaccinated. Parents are fully vaccinated. DH just had second jab. Why can't we meet inside?

Because we haven’t got to the magic date yet when the virus suddenly stops infecting people when they’re indoors.

sleepwouldbenice · 08/04/2021 09:11

Lalliella. Well said
It’s amazing how good everyone has become at risk assessment whilst using the shrugging emoji. That’s worked so well so far
And the basic concept of not waiting to see if cases go up too many as we release restrictions because “it’s only 5 weeks so what does it matter” ( throw in laughing emoji ...) ignoring that most people haven’t been fully vaccinated etc etc
Extra bonus points if you can throw in that everyone you know is also an idiot
The reason restrictions have to be so tight is to offset all this. Great

siestalady · 08/04/2021 09:14

@bumbleymummy - exactly!!!

So many posters on this thread seem to be missing that they're effectively advocating for social mixing to never restart again when they say things like:

The vaccine isnt 100% effective
Not everyone will be vaccinated
Even if you've had the vaccine you can still pass it on

Unfortunately, all of these things will always be true no matter what arbitrary date Bojo chooses to say "we are now safe to mix". So unless you're planning to only ever see other humans outside at a 2m distance.....

Pissedoff1234 · 08/04/2021 09:39

I'm generally a rule follower and this last year I have more than followed the rules. We have barely been off our property apart from work and school which hasn't been often either due to school closures and WFH and apart from a small bit of time over the summer when we met with a few people within the rules usually outside, we've not seen anyone.

Now though, most other people aren't following the exact rules but most of them are still being sensible, no mass parties, getting vaccinated. Only 2 people in my family, closest friends who I would choose to see haven't had their jab yet and one of those goes nowhere to catch Covid. If this weekend our garden meet up gets a bit chilly then I wouldn't be averse to popping inside as a one off.

Things aren't going to suddenly be ok on May 17th. People are going to have to get back to life while being sensible.

I think I'll need help to go back to the real world as it is as I have suffered with germaphobia for years but kept it under control. I need to be able to get out to see how much help I'm going to need. I'm vaccinated, I'm doing LFT's so feel I'm doing my bit.

PrivateMe · 08/04/2021 09:47

The rules are there for people who don't social distance and who aren't vaccinated.

If you're vaccinated, and the people you meet are vaccinated, not only is there such a huge chance they won't catch covid, I mean seriously massive, not just from the very high protection but also from the signs now showing you don't pass it on the same way if you're vaccinated. That all being the case, even if someone catches a mild strain of covid, nobody in your group is going to die from covid, are they? And the chances are so ridiculously low they could pass it on to anyone else too. Plus, you'll all be social distancing, bit like being in your local tesco food shopping for an hour at the weekend.

More than half the population are vaccinated and they're already saying it's caused a huge divide between rates of covid and rates of death by covid.

Delatron · 08/04/2021 10:50

It’s all over the papers today that we’ll reach herd immunity by Monday.

Yet still people will bleat on about how the vaccines aren’t 100% effective and we must social distance for years.

Where’s the spike from the schools opening? Oh it didn’t happen.

bumbleymummy · 08/04/2021 11:02

@Delatron I hadn’t actually seen that. Great news if it proves to be the case! And without having to vaccinate everyone

Abraxan · 08/04/2021 11:07

I suspect the only reason why vaccinated people can't dispense with many of the rules is due to the likely uproar from those still waiting for the vaccine,

I can understand that.

In the meantime people will likely make their own judgement calls, as many have done from the start. No matter how much we'd want everyone to follow rules that's never going to be the case. We

Abraxan · 08/04/2021 11:10

Fair enough, I see your point but how do you know you don't have COVID when 1 in 3 show no symptoms?

It's extremely unlikely I currently have covid with no symptoms.

I had covid in October when I was in hospital with it.
I have had my first vaccine a few weeks ago.
I take twice weekly LFTs and tested negative yesterday.

The risk to me is now very low.
The risk from me is also now very low.

It would be highly unlikely I have covid right now.

Viviennemary · 08/04/2021 11:10

I'd go.

Abraxan · 08/04/2021 11:16

[quote siestalady]@bumbleymummy - exactly!!!

So many posters on this thread seem to be missing that they're effectively advocating for social mixing to never restart again when they say things like:

The vaccine isnt 100% effective
Not everyone will be vaccinated
Even if you've had the vaccine you can still pass it on

Unfortunately, all of these things will always be true no matter what arbitrary date Bojo chooses to say "we are now safe to mix". So unless you're planning to only ever see other humans outside at a 2m distance.....[/quote]
No vaccine is ever 100% effective, however it has been shown time and time again that it reduces your chances of catching covid by a lot, as well as the chance of being very ill. It has also been shown to be very effective in stopping transmission in most cases.

The risk is very low amongst a group where all a]bar 1 have been vaccinated, and that other one has had covid once already.

The risk would be lower again if they are doing regular LfTs. I know they aren't perfect but they do give a good idea when done properly and done twice every week.

Delatron · 08/04/2021 11:43

The vaccines are effective enough. They are amazing. We look to be nearly at herd immunity. We’re in a great position and summer is on the way which will help. What will people moan about soon?

(The new scary Russian variant or something most likely).

siestalady · 08/04/2021 11:47

@Delatron

The vaccines are effective enough. They are amazing. We look to be nearly at herd immunity. We’re in a great position and summer is on the way which will help. What will people moan about soon?

(The new scary Russian variant or something most likely).

Exactly!!!

user1494055864 · 08/04/2021 12:45

OP hopefully this picture will reassure you, Boris doesn't actually practice what they preach. Having a cosy indoor chat before this cafe reopens next week. No masks indoors either!

Delatron · 08/04/2021 14:16

Ah well it’s a business so the virus can differentiate between a business environment and a private house.
It also knows to disappear magically on the 17th May so everyone is ‘safe’ again..