Is the Brazil variant more deadly to young people?

[QuietBatPeople1]

Just read a report about it affecting the age group 20-39 more than the previous variant. www.bmj.com/content/373/bmj.n879

That is worrying...

Who knows who the the fuck cares, I volunteer to die from it. Do people really follow this bollocks anymore?

@selkiebride Why do you sound so angry? Was just a question as I came across it and was not aware prior to reading.

I am angry yes. Because this concerted brainwashing and propoganda bollocks will effect many generations, its a fucking virus, there have been many in the past and there will be many in the future. What will the world be like when this is gone, or at least accepted as endemic. It's fucking evil.

Sorry for ranting at you. But it's all so ridiculous I can't keep, it in anymore.

@Selkiebride I understand your frustration - I really do hence the reason I didn’t get offended or respond back ‘with a vengeance’

I’m tired too, tired of the constant scaremongering, tired of the frenzy around vaccines, tired of ‘news’ bombardment everywhere you turn.

I agree what I raised is another worry to add but my anxiety got the better of me when I read it...I wasn’t aware of this so wanted to check if this is widely reported.

"Variants" and "long covid" are now the scare/doom mongers words of choice.

I don’t believe so. The vaccines are effective against it anyway.

www.theguardian.com/world/2021/apr/04/canada-coronavirus-third-wave-variants-ontario

From Canada where there is more P1 than here.

Plus plenty of P1 in the USA - just about to be added to our Green List with zero quarantine required.

This Green List is about money not health as demonstrated by the totally ridiculous addition of the USA. That is the glaring abomination of a Green List quarantine, but had to be added to ensure that there was adequate capacity abroad for all the money needing to be spent in the travel sector. Not going to ensure we spend enough money by going to tiny islands with equivalent infections rates to ours.

It is money driving this, not health.

And the P1 will soon be all over the UK.

@QuietBatPeople1 I’m not sure and it’s quite hard to tell on the face of it since Brazil has widespread cases - if enough people catch it, small statistics start to look larger in real life numbers so younger age groups will appear more affected. I suspect this is one of those things that will take a while to analyse properly and give any definitive answers.

@Selkiebride I appreciate your POV and opinion are your own, but you’re being massively offensive to anyone who has actually experienced the worst of covid. But then I’m guessing you’ve managed to get through the last twelve months without having to face any of it head on. You’re ranting from a position of being in relative luxury of not having to deal with the worst realities of what covid does.

I’m in a position having seen the real life consequence of covid, having my income affected by it, my child’s life impacted by the changes, close family in deep mental distress (enough to be sectioned), having friends at various stages of cancer treatment etc. It’s not brainwashing, it’s a disaster.

The vaccines work against the P1 virus, and the UK is way ahead in the roll out. It's really nothing to worry about

Brazil's president has refused to buy the vaccine, stating the makers should come to him with their offers. You cant judge Brazil fairly with their nutso president.

Canada isnt up to the same level of vaccine rollout as we are.

Thanks for that quietbat I was being pretty unreasonable. I'm tired too, so tired of it all.

Tbf @cornettoninja sad about people having this virus, just as I'm sad about people having any illness. It's the human condition, people suffer and have illnesses/diseases. I've had my own, don't expect random people to give a shit, why would they? There are worse ways to die and we all have to.

I'm 30 and do not find this worrying at all. As PP said, the vaccine is effective against it.

@Selkiebride - but if the same numbers of people developed your condition through contagious means we’d be seeing the same kind of scenario I’m sure.

It’s a numbers game when it comes down to it. You’re right, on a population level no one really gives a shit who’s ill or who dies unless it personally affects them, but when large numbers start getting really ill (as in need medical attention swiftly ill) it becomes everyone’s problem. Even taking any emotion or trauma out of it, it’s still a problem because of the repercussions. It’s so frustrating to see people deny that there was ever problem now it looks like we’re seeing an end to the worst of it.

Frankly if you’re in a position to deny the seriousness of the situation of the last year then that’s because the measures in place benefited you because they worked enough to protect you from the realities of it.

I’m all for moving forward and getting over everything but moving forward doesn’t need to erase what actually happened to have credibility.

@Selkiebride totally agree with you. Oooh new scary variant. Fuck off, heard it.

@MaxNormal tbf though it’s a no win situation. Don’t report it and risk cries of ‘how could they not warn us this was a possibility?’ if one does end up kicking our arses despite the vaccines or report it so there’s an awareness of the possibilities?

It’s like Christmas and the travel corridors being rescinded last year. It was always on the cards they could go tits up (plenty of information at the time) yet there was wailing about how there was no warning that it could possibly happen. People hear what they want to hear.

The measures didn't benefit me or my children in the slightest. We couldn't access dentistry and health care that we needed. Lock down has very much affected our mental health. My children have lost a year of education and socialisation.

I'm very sorry for people who have lost someone, shit happens though. There may have been short periods where icus and hospitals were packed, it happens every year even without covid. If you don't see the illogic shite that has accompanied this whole shit show then fine. Don't worry there will be another pandemic along soon, H5N1 has been foreshadowed, tune in for the next series.

@Selkiebride

The measures didn't benefit me or my children in the slightest. We couldn't access dentistry and health care that we needed. Lock down has very much affected our mental health. My children have lost a year of education and socialisation.

I'm very sorry for people who have lost someone, shit happens though. There may have been short periods where icus and hospitals were packed, it happens every year even without covid. If you don't see the illogic shite that has accompanied this whole shit show then fine. Don't worry there will be another pandemic along soon, H5N1 has been foreshadowed, tune in for the next series.

With a bit of luck the next pandemic will maybe affect 'healthy' people as well. Then we will see how keen they all are to carry on with life and do what they want whenever it's personally them at risk. The reason your health care was delayed was as a result of allowing coronavirus to spread and need lockdowns to control the spread and pressures on healthcare. If everyone just played their part to keep it under control, mask wearing, social distancing, self isolating with symptoms etc then we could coexist alongside covid without the need for lockdown measures which affected schooling, livelihoods and healthcare, until the vaccine takes over and the above mitigation factors are no longer required.

@Selkiebride excuse the language but you are talking rubbish and really showing your ignorance. Shit happens right... Never known our ICU open 4 extra wards for critically ill patients, or use theatre vents or have to ration oxygen and sedation or have 1 nurse caring for 3 patients. We were having several deaths a day, proning patients one after the other. An arrest going on meanwhile reintubating one patient and proning another. We raised £500 for a 12 year old lad who lost his 40 year old healthy mum the week before xmas. You really have not got a bloody clue but all that matters is your teeth....

Don't worry there will be another pandemic along soon, H5N1 has been foreshadowed, tune in for the next series

And that’s necessary because?

@Berlinbabylon66 don’t waste your breath. There’s plenty of information on the realities of covid out there, some people are incapable of accepting that this actually took place.

I don’t know whether it’s compassion fatigue or inability to comprehend the magnitude of what has happened but they’re completely blinkered and unable to process that the consequences of covid (dentists, education, mental health) are all part and parcel of it. They only see a reduction in their quality of life without recognising what was preserved and can be salvaged. No one has relished the reduction in their quality of life or access to infrastructure but there is a growing number of people who seem to think this has all been a personal attack on them.

@Selkiebride

Who knows who the the fuck cares, I volunteer to die from it. Do people really follow this bollocks anymore?

Maybe hide the coronavirus topic

From the UK gov website.

Might be useful in the debate.

www.gov.uk/government/publications/covid-19-variants-genomically-confirmed-case-numbers/variants-distribution-of-cases-data

I cant get over the sheer amount of people of healthy younger age prepared to live a half life forever.
I speak as someone who has had it and had long covid. Which may well have changed my perception.

Different for people over say the age of 70. Or being obese or high blood pressure or some other health issues.

If I was over 70 and healthy, I still dont think I would choose the half life option. Unless because of the law obviously.

@lightand who’s choosing to do this forever? Since when has that even been an option?

This is about dealing with the situation at hand. Are you expecting it to last forever?