Vaccine or no vaccine? Opinions please

[gonewiththegin]

I am mid thirties, female with no existing health conditions. By no means an anti vaxer but I feel very uneasy about getting the jab.

I am aware it’s for the benefit of others more than myself, after all I’ve spent the best part of a year wfh and in complete isolation from anyone not in my household. I feel I’ve done my bit, I protected the vulnerable when there was as no vaccine. Now there is one and they’ve all had their first jag.

I think they government is aware the younger generations with no health conditions will likely have the same opinion as myself hence the talk of vaccine passports for gigs etc. IMO this is blackmail and a lot to people who were not planning on having the jag now will do so purely so they can go on holiday.

Is there something I am missing? Should I just get the jag and be done with it, it should I reject on the basis that I am fit and healthy.

Honestly OP, is it entirely up to you.

That should say it is up to you.
I would never try and convince someone else either way, and would hope the same courtesy would be extended to me.

@Blossomplease6 I am yet to see any serious answer to that question that isn't based on fake news and scare mongering. Unless you have never had a vaccine, taken the pill, used paracetamol, smoked, drank, eaten unhealthy food, then no, I can't see why one would reject it.

That's why I asked, as op may have had a serious reason why she would reject it and I was interested.

[quote gonewiththegin]@lurker101belive me I have done all I can the last year to protect the vulnerable. Unlike most who break the rules and think they’re a saint because they’ve had the jag. Ot after one dose think the restrictions no longer apply to them.

@Blossomplease6 exactly, I’m not the first of the last person to say I am likely to reject it. If I were at risk then yes it would be in my best interest to get it but I am not and am just as likely to get seriously ill for numerous other illnesses that I am not being scare mongered in to being vaccinated against.[/quote]
Every day you get older increases your risk, every pound you put on increases your risk, every unknown underlying condition you begin to develop increases your risk. Covid is going nowhere but you are aging irreversibly.

Would you like not to be able to smell for months? And to taste for months ? I know someone mid 40s who hasn’t been smelling since October. You might not die but you might have long COVID , this can affect anyone

@XenoBitch thanks, wasn’t a post designed to spark a furious debate. I was just generally curious as to other people in my age group and what their opinions in it were.

As I said my partner was totally against and now with all the talk of vaccine passports has decided he will get it purely so he won’t miss out on gigs etc later in the year. This made me wonder if the passport has been mentioned in order to sway those like myself who are unsure if it’s beneficial for them.

It's miserable, I've seen marathon runners younger than you die from Covid on ICU. Seen friends get a mild form of the illness and months later they are still unable to chase their children in the park. It's a miserable, miserable virus.

If you're one of the people that feels like you won't get it and don't want the vaccine then fine don't have the jab. Can you also be one of the people that when they do get it stays at home doesn't end up blocking a hospital bed for months on end. Cheers

@curiouscuriouscurious even with the vaccine I could still end up ‘blocking a hospital bed for months on end’

My risk is low too, however I’m more concerned about long term effects or post viral issues which can happen even in children. I wouldn’t even want to get the flu or any other nasty virus if I could help it.
Also, you said about avoiding catching it because of SD, masks etc, but if you get the vaccine you wouldn’t have to continue doing all these things.
Not sure if they will go ahead with vaccine passports etc but if they do then you probably will want to get vaccinated to be able to do all those things. It’s a step to protect and allow those who genuinely (for health reasons) can’t have the vaccine, but want to be able to live a fairly “normal” life.
I know so many healthy young people in their twenties and thirties and early forties who have got the vaccine (most NHS or carers) I honestly think those that chose not to get the vaccine will be such a small minority.

My brother caught Covid over the Christmas period. He's 32, fit as a fiddle and has run marathons. He was not hospitalised and had a mild case although he struggled for a week or so. He now has long Covid and is currently undergoing tests on his heart as they believe it may have damaged his heart.
I would happily take any vaccine they offered me as the risk of long Covid alone worries me.

@curiouscuriouscurious

It's miserable, I've seen marathon runners younger than you die from Covid on ICU. Seen friends get a mild form of the illness and months later they are still unable to chase their children in the park. It's a miserable, miserable virus.

If you're one of the people that feels like you won't get it and don't want the vaccine then fine don't have the jab. Can you also be one of the people that when they do get it stays at home doesn't end up blocking a hospital bed for months on end. Cheers

Marathon running doesn't mean you are healthy, DH runs one or further on average every couple of weeks and he isn't that healthy, he had high blood pressure, asthma and is slightly overweight.

The American testers (fda?) Said the Oxford vaccine was 100%protective against serious covid so that is unlikely that you would still be using a hospital bed (from covid).

Vaccine.
Risks from the vaccine are tiny compared to risks from the virus. Not so much dying but long Covid is scary.

Honestly, I would 100% get it just to reduce the chance of me getting as poorly from a mild case.

Blackmail rather over dramatic aren't you 🤔

Well look at the countries going through new lock downs.... vaccine is a way out.

Don't want it then don't have it since no one is forcing you and you can ignore facts if you want to

I got covid. Mid 30s super fit and healthy... I kind of got over it quite quickly. However, Someone in my team got it. 31, again for and healthy and he's still not up to working full time 6 months on.

I was all for getting it, I would have had it no hesitation a few weeks ago. I can't lie that the latest news about blood clots is concerning me, especially as it affects women aged 30-50. I am mid 30s and have already had Covid, mild case, quick recovery with no lasting effects, it does worry me that I could have a vaccine that will potentially make me more poorly than the illness it is preventing. But, I can't see I'll be called until at least May so hopefully there will be some clearer data out on the actual risks by that time.

It is a lie that everyone CEV is vaccinated.

DS(13) is CEV and because he has the misfortune of being three years too young. There isnt even a whiff of a vaccine on the horizon for him.

If I could vaccinate him I would. In a heart beat. For us to have even the vaguest chance of functioning as a family outside the house (we are already homeschooling now), the population needs to be as vaccinated as possible.

People refusing the vaccine boil my bones, especially on the grounds "I've done my bit" cos "I stayed home" . A pandemic doesn't end because you are bored anymore than it ends because I'm fed up of trying to keep DS alive and away from the risk of further mitochondrial damage from long covid.

For you at least doing your bit is easy.

[quote gonewiththegin]@curiouscuriouscurious even with the vaccine I could still end up ‘blocking a hospital bed for months on end’[/quote]
That is true but perhaps with a vaccine the chances of that happening might be slightly less. You could get his by a bus tomorrow, hopefully not, but it might happen. The virus could also mutate and you could get a strain not protected by the vaccine. You could even have the vaccine and still end up extremely unwell but again hopefully not. It's all about your own attitude to risk at the end of the day.

For me personally my biggest fear is leaving my children without a mother earlier than I should. The terror that healthcare professionals have felt over the last year going into work is very real so when we were told we could have the jab I was right there and ready, mask on and arm out.

It will reduce the chance of you spreading the virus so for that reason alone would you take it ? Also a slightly pedantic point but you weren't protecting the vulnerable, you were protecting the NHS from becoming overwhelmed.

I get where you are coming from, I got the 2 vaccines in the end up..After the first I swore I wouldn't get the 2nd then the more I researched I got it..more fertility aspect scared me but it has been more researched and the impact of covid on fertility is worse than I went with it. I think everyone should do what they think is right and not be rail roaded into anything but in the same token I'd be happier being out and about known we are all vaccinated

I am similar age as you OP and I had Covid over Christmas. Super mild. I have had flu before and that was a lot worse than Covid. However, I have no doubts at all about having the vaccine. We need to find a way to suppress the virus for others, if not for us, and most importantly to stop new variants. Variants that could conceivably be more dangerous for us or our children.

@curiouscuriouscurious

It's miserable, I've seen marathon runners younger than you die from Covid on ICU. Seen friends get a mild form of the illness and months later they are still unable to chase their children in the park. It's a miserable, miserable virus.

If you're one of the people that feels like you won't get it and don't want the vaccine then fine don't have the jab. Can you also be one of the people that when they do get it stays at home doesn't end up blocking a hospital bed for months on end. Cheers

And the majority of people have seen others with Covid have no ill effects after at all... and that is if they had symptoms.

Bed blocking is where someone is ready for discharge but is waiting on suitable care elsewhere (usually someone elderly waiting for a care home bed). It is not someone who is in genuine need of medical care, which should be given regardless of vaccination status. The NHS treats people according to need, not their morals.

Is the clot thing affecting people under the age of 30? Or is there a specific age bracket it's affecting?

Your choice op! Just fo what feels right.