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Vaccine and family behaviour differences

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Onthedowns · 31/03/2021 07:21

I know I am but being irrational.

Out of my family of siblings etc 9 adults, 7 have been vaccinated only 2 over 60s. SIL 35 working from home all year not sure why she was called no known health issues, BIL 31 working from home over a year again no known health issues. DSIS and DB are NHS so completely understand.

I know it's good for the greater population and the sooner everyone gets jabbed the better. However I am emergency service, 40 in a crowded office (already had large outbreak of covid) and no jab now I until May earliest due to 'lumpy' delays. We have primary school age children too. I do have a chronic health issue that treatment has been delayed for over a year on the NHS but its not life limiting etc

The crux of the issue is now my family feel its OK to have a big Easter meet up including kids it will be 12 of them. We were invited but will decline I know it's, outside etc but we have been the more sensible ones whole way through. They have been mixing whole way through under the guise of various bubbles including a Christmas meet up which was only cancelled due to Boris.

Anyone esle struggling with superhuman families? I get made to feel the bad person for trying to be sensible. My kids seem to suffer too as they miss their cousins who they know meet up.

It's hard to be rational and sensible these days and I want to get out of lockdown as much as anyone.

How do you with family divisions manage

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OverTheRainbow88 · 31/03/2021 07:23

I think outside is safe, especially if all vaccinated so for Easter I think your family will be the one missing out just to make a point.

ssd · 31/03/2021 07:27

Can you go but keep your distance as much as possible?

BluebellsGreenbells · 31/03/2021 07:28

I wouldn’t just yet. We have been told we aren’t safe until we are all safe.

For strange reasons my children have been vaccinated, two 16 year olds, mine is this week and my husband next week leaving just one family member unvaccinated awaiting her turn.

We won’t risk Covid and meet ups until she’s been vaccinated - we can’t put her at risk just because ‘we’re all right jack’ she’s given up enough.

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Onthedowns · 31/03/2021 07:29

I agree to a point but we haven't been vaccinated and there are 5 kids who we don't normally mix with either. So 7 kids not social distancing from different settings we are the at risk ones. Besides it's illegal to have 16 in your garden 🤷🏼‍♀️. It just feels the ones with a bit of moral compass miss out

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StarCat2020 · 31/03/2021 07:36

It just feels the ones with a bit of moral compass miss out
It does seem mean but then again would you enjoy yourself if you went?

I mean if it was me (in your situation) I would be quite cross at them.

BluebellsGreenbells · 31/03/2021 07:40

I agree you wouldn’t enjoy it. You’ll be worried whilst there and then for a few days afterwards.

Don’t give it much thought.

Hollywhiskey · 31/03/2021 07:42

It's not about individuals missing out though really from what I understood from the last Chris Whitty/Patrick Vallance explanations.
The more we are socialising before we are ALL vaccinated, the more chance of a mutation that will stop the vaccine programme working. So it's not about individual risk at all - of course we need to do some things now, it's been an awful year for everyone in different ways but the worst thing would be another strain that takes us back to where we were in December.

starfish4 · 31/03/2021 07:45

Don't do anything you're not comfortable with. I've lost track of what's allowed, but that many households and children doesn't seem likely.

moochingtothepub · 31/03/2021 07:47

It's max 6 for Easter (or two households) so they are breaking the law.

Vaccination is continuing via gps for 40 somethings, I know several who have been called in the last few days as there's stock in their area, just not via the national website. If you are emergency services, I'm surprised you haven't been offered leftovers, the police, fire and coastguard all got vaccinated here weeks ago, all teachers in the schools too

StarCat2020 · 31/03/2021 07:48

I always wonder when people say vaccinated do they mean 1 or 2 doses because not that many people have had 2 doses yet?

StarCat2020 · 31/03/2021 07:49

Sorry OP my post above sounds mean but I didn't mean it to sound that way.

Kendodd · 31/03/2021 07:56

Yanbu OP
People should show solidarity with younger unvaccinated people even just for fairness sake. I feel the same about older people wanting vaccine passports so they can now go on holiday. Just wait until young people are done as well. Considering how much young people have suffered and sacrificed and will be paying for their lifetime, largely for the benefit of the elderly, it would be so wrong if the elderly just waved them goodbye and went on holiday while the young were unable to go anywhere. This situation with your relatives is similar.

beginningoftheend · 31/03/2021 07:56

This is a common problem I think. Sometimes you have to do the right thing, even if other people don't agree with your assessment of 'right'.

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Onthedowns · 31/03/2021 08:15

@StarCat2020

I always wonder when people say vaccinated do they mean 1 or 2 doses because not that many people have had 2 doses yet?

One has had two the rest one and one of them was yesterday. There would be 4 households without me but they have and always, have mixed bubbles for childcare reasons etc

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StarCat2020 · 31/03/2021 08:25

@Onthedowns
I am surprised that the two who work in the NHS aren't more cautious and law abiding.

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Onthedowns · 31/03/2021 08:26

@moochingtothepub

It's max 6 for Easter (or two households) so they are breaking the law.

Nope not offered here they were giving leftovers but I am not frontline so I understand.

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bigbluebus · 31/03/2021 08:27

Too many people and it's against the rules - vaccinated or not. I'd be staying away in those circumstances too.

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Onthedowns · 31/03/2021 08:28

[quote StarCat2020]@Onthedowns
I am surprised that the two who work in the NHS aren't more cautious and law abiding.[/quote]
Nope well one works for a private company servicing NHS machinery but seen impact. One is a nurse but not front line I think they think 30s vaccination no risk. I know the risks are low and cases are low. But the alright Jack attitude is what keeps us hanging onto crap lockdowns 🤷🏼‍♀️

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nordica · 31/03/2021 08:30

The current vaccine situation is definitely creating a bit of a two-tier system of those who think they're now safe to do everything (and consequently ignore the rules because they're fine now) and those who don't... I guess it was inevitable.

Equalityumber · 31/03/2021 08:30

Attitudes like theirs mean we’re likely to see another variant emerging and further lockdowns. I would cut them off in my opinion.

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Onthedowns · 31/03/2021 08:41

@Equalityumber

Attitudes like theirs mean we’re likely to see another variant emerging and further lockdowns. I would cut them off in my opinion.

If it were just me to think about I think that would be easy but my children do miss their cousins and grandparents

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Onthedowns · 31/03/2021 14:57

@nordica

I agree its actually sad really. But they haven't been bothered the whole way about following rules both of my DSis use my parents for childcare DIY etc. One has recently seperated so completely understand. The other works sporadically and husband works from home do could manage like everyone esle ie husband having to take time off and help. But in and out of each others houses etc and 4 school and nursery between them

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BluebellsGreenbells · 31/03/2021 15:28

They may well miss their cousins, but they’d miss their mum more.

notrub · 31/03/2021 15:33

I can relate exactly to what you're saying, but I think in this instance it may be an overreaction.

Meetings outdoors are safe - but is everyone going to traipse into the house to use the toilet/kitchen facilities? If yes, then I'd have a problem with that. If no, they've thought about it and have a plan to avoid, then it's a different kettle of fish.

As far as the kids go - they're mixing with other kids at school? And primary age appear to be fairly weak at spreading the virus, so again, I don't think it's a major risk.

No doubt there'll be some fuckwits along shortly to say "Oh the vulnerable have been vaccinated now so it doesn't matter any more...". Well mixing indoors DOES matter because it risks increasing the number of infections, and if THAT happens then the restrictions WILL stay in place longer.

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Onthedowns · 31/03/2021 15:50

@notrub

I can relate exactly to what you're saying, but I think in this instance it may be an overreaction.

As far as the kids go - they're mixing with other kids at school? And primary age appear to be fairly weak at spreading the virus, so again, I don't think it's a major risk.

Yes they will be using loos etc. More also we haven't been vaccinated yet and kids from other schools etc it's one risk at the moment. . I know rationally it's low risk but still 5 households 16 people in a back garden. Not sure how that's acceptable really 🤷🏼‍♀️. I want to hurry up and get out of this as much as the next person.

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