Almost 90% of people made unemployed in the past year are under 35s

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Shocking statistics from the ONS today showing 88% of jobs lost in the year from feb 2020--feb 2021 were jobs of people under 35, more than 60% in those under 25. Feels like a poweder keg of resentment will go off soon, the social impact of such a generational divide will be massive (especially as under 35s are largely not at risk from the virus).

www.politicshome.com/news/article/ons-employment-young-people-face-employment-crisis-as-88-of-job-losses-affect-under-35s

Covid-19: Pubs could require vaccine passports - Boris Johnson www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-56517486

Hmm, maybe I was wrong, maybe they really will screw the young over with vaccine passports for pubs after all.

Ha, didn't take long for 'resilience' to start being banded around

Talk about young people being sacrificed and I'll bring up resilience !

ODFO with your ‘resilience’.

ODFO yourself.

Agree, our young people have been utterly screwed over and forgotten and are still locked down despite all over 50s being vaccinated. I’m surprised there’s not civil unrest, it’ appalling.

@CateTown I made no comment on young people being 'sacrificed'.

But I think a lot of people are sick of things like 'resilience' being thrown around. At least comments like yours help to fully expose the lie that we have a better understanding and care around mental health these days.

If they do vaccine passports before all ages have been vaccinated it will be so grossly unfair. I can't help feeling the Government don't care because their voters are older. They will care if there is civil unrest though. Young people must be at their wits end and are fully entitled to protest. Older people have relied on their goodwill for far too long.

@daisiesinmay I do wonder what the tipping point will be. What a sad situation it is, I don't want to see civil unrest. I fear it will happen and i completely understand why, but I think it will be for multiple reasons.

It will be interesting to see what pubs do though, if it's a choice for then to make individually, long term it may do them a lot of harm. It depends if people are stubborn enough to them boycott them in the future, I know I am 😁

[quote StrawberryLipstickStateOfMind]@CateTown I made no comment on young people being 'sacrificed'.

But I think a lot of people are sick of things like 'resilience' being thrown around. At least comments like yours help to fully expose the lie that we have a better understanding and care around mental health these days. [/quote]
You quoted me replying to someone who had used the term "sacrifced". Don't quote me out of context.

Trust me, I have at least as good an understanding around MH as you do. Hence I appreciate how importance resilience is to enable coping and healing.

Trust me, I have at least as good an understanding around MH as you do. Hence I appreciate how importance resilience is to enable coping and healing.

Yeah, sounds like you have a wonderful understanding of it

My last sentence proves I do. What about you?

I think it may because younger people are overrepresented in the hospitality sector. Think.students working as waitor/waitresses and in pubs as barmaid/man. Some of jobs list are part time too.

It's older people's fault that they haven't died and left me their house and life savings.

How can you expect reasonable debate when you spout this nonsense?

not die in the Battle of the Somme.

Basically no one can complain because they are not dead 🙄

But I think a lot of people are sick of things like 'resilience' being thrown around

Some who throw these comments around need to work on their own resilience!

Some of jobs list are part time too.

So what if they're part time. For many young people, and in particular students, the loss of that part time job has meant choosing between heat or food. Just because a job is part time doesn't mean it's not vital. We don't all just do part time jobs for a little extra spending money. Some of us need them to survive because of the abysmal support for student in full time education, not to mention we don't qualify for any kind of UC.The loss of that job is just an impactful as the loss of a full time job for many.

'resilience' has been hijacked to mean simply 'shut the fuck up' it appears.

Of course it is, it's always young people who suffer. Especially when you have a government who only cares about old Tory voters.

They've been told to stay home - like the rest of us - to protect the NHS - not die in the Battle of the Somme. Thank god the young people I know are more resilient!

No, they've been required, in many cases, to throw careers and qualifications in the bin, not be able to meet partners, become unemployed, have their industries decimated, work from home in cramped shared flats with no outdoor space. Oh, and they get to spend the rest of their lives paying for it too.

The babyboomers will go down in history as the generation that devoured its own grandchildren.

And having to put off having children Kokeshi123 in some cases, as well as all their other hopes and dreams on hold

Yes. The fertility rate started falling sharply in around 2009 (after the reverberations of the financial crash started to be felt) and actually has continued to fall ever since. It's likely that the pandemic and the responses to the pandemic will accelerate this trend.

To be honest, the bigger betrayal of our generation by older generations was Brexit. None of us voted for it and yes we do vote

Well,, quite. The old voted to leave the EU even though their life chances weren't being ruined by doing so, and then expected the young to stay at home for a year plus to protect. And they should shut up about it and be resilient. not envy

As for age discrimination - yes it happens towards the late middle aged and it needs to be stopped. But then people say that we need the jobs for the young, which I disagree with - everyone needs a job.

to protect the NHS - not die in the Battle of the Somme. Thank god the young people I know are more resilient!

The battle of the Somme was 1916. Nobody who fought in it is alive. Very few people who knew anyone who fought in it is alive either. You might as well talk about the battle of Traflager.

It’s unsurprising but still shocking all the same, and shows just how much of a debt is owed to the younger generation for adhering to the lockdown rules which have in some cases devastated their lives. What’s even more appalling is that per the latest OBR release the entire forecast increase in welfare spending over the next few years is on pensions and disability benefits. None at all on Universal Credit or other benefits for the low paid or unemployed.

The babyboomers will go down in history as the generation that devoured its own grandchildren

Some truth in this I suspect. Will be interesting to see how it’s all looked back on once we gain the perspective of time (although I also expect there’ll be considerable airbrushing until it becomes a narrative of ‘The nation all pulled together’ - after all, history is always written by the ‘winners’).

DP and I are a case in point; we’re both one of two, but have just the one DD ourselves and will need to stick at that if she is to have any chance of enjoying the same (fairly ordinary) lifestyle that we did growing up. And DP is in the top 10% of earners; I dread to think how those less economically fortunate are managing.

The generational contract definitely seems to be broken right now.

@Kokeshi123
Completely agree and that “resilience” is being misused.

If we were talking about children living in a developing country who didn’t have access to full time education or good employment opportunities no one would say they just need to be more resilient. And many resilient people will be resilient because they have learned coping strategies like seeking support, pursuing interests, expanding their social group etc. most of which have been denied to them. And even if young people are resilient in the sense that they have coped from a mental health perspective they are still facing this future of a decimated economy, unemployment, lack of or devalued qualifications and no amount of resilience will stop what has been done to them. Some might cope better than others but much of that will be due to external factors like their socio-economic background, what industry they work or are qualified in, how good their employer is etc.

As a country we have taken all the money and resources which could have been spent on our young people (£500m a day which lockdown is costing) and spent it on slightly decreasing risk to older people (if it has even achieved that),

Spot on posts from TempsPerdu.