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Does anyone know the SURVIVAL rate of CV-19?

112 replies

FluWorldOrder · 21/03/2021 14:21

Or where I can find this information?

All I see and hear day in and day out are what feel like fear mongering stories in the press.

We are told asymptomatic transmission occurs and yet apparently we will be struck down in the prime of our lives by this virus. So if we can have the virus and have no symptoms of it how does this work? Presumably we will have some symptoms if we’re on deaths door.

Anyway, does anyone know where I can find the statistics on survival rather than focusing on death, death, death?

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HarveySchlumpfenburger · 25/03/2021 09:48

@UsedUpUsername

Much better for cancer patients to keep numbers as low as possible tbh. It’s win-win in terms of treatment and not getting nfected with Covid

This is really insulting. I had a family member die recently from cancer that was not detected in a timely fashion, he never went because he was afraid of getting COVID but in the end it didn’t matter.

Panic-mongers have a lot to answer for. Unlike the typical COVID victim, many of these people had many more years left. They should have not had treatments and screenings delayed.

And you don't think it's insulting for those with mild underlying health conditions or over 50 to be continually being disregarded in terms of deaths? Or for those groups to be continually told they will need to shield for an unknown amount of time so that everyone else can go about living their lives as normal? Most of them had many more years left. 10-15 on average in the UK.

I am very sorry for the loss of your family member, that shouldn't have happened. But the idea that cancer patients would all be fine if only we hadn't locked down and let people get on with their lives is a fantasy. And the minute they start treatment, they would become what you call 'a typical covid victim' in the middle of a pandemic with high levels of circulating virus. That is the problem we face and there aren't any easy solutions except trying to keep numbers down as low as possible so treatment becomes less risky than the disease itself.

bumbleymummy · 25/03/2021 10:13

[quote SomethingElse2]@ButtonMoony - from what I’ve read there will be a million people with long Covid.

So 1 in 60 or so people in this country.

The numbers are increasing all the time... it’s just one of the reasons to get vaccinated. It’s not all about the initial infection.[/quote]
Where have you read this?

ButtonMoony · 25/03/2021 11:41

[quote SomethingElse2]@ButtonMoony - from what I’ve read there will be a million people with long Covid.

So 1 in 60 or so people in this country.

The numbers are increasing all the time... it’s just one of the reasons to get vaccinated. It’s not all about the initial infection.[/quote]
I would love to see a reliable source for this. Nealry 2% of the entire population left with long term impact? Not a chance

MrsHastingslikethebattle · 25/03/2021 11:55

*True but thousand is an absolutely tiny percentage of the UK population.

There are thousands stuck off work with chronic fatigue years after getting other virus's like glandular fever. We don't shut the whole country down for them.*

Exactly this. Nor do we shut the country down every winter to prevent 10s of thousands deaths per year due to the flu.

bumbleymummy · 25/03/2021 12:35

Nor do we worry about people travelling and bringing back new strains of the flu virus...

LolaSmiles · 25/03/2021 12:39

The OP's username was probably your first clue that they were coming with conspiracies
That was my first thought and my main reason for scrolling. I'm only on page 1 so we'll see how many more boxes are ticked as the thread develops.

ButtonMoony · 25/03/2021 13:11

No conspiracies here, it was awful last year and measures were needed.

Using figures from then to justify measures now is pointless.

Now we have huge numbers vaccinated. We know a lot more and treatments have improved. Also, grim but relevant, a lot of the most vulnerable aren't here anymore.

Current mortality figures are miniscule.

I still remain astounded that so many of those shouting the loudest are obese which is one of the biggest factors. If people can't take some responsibility for their own health and wellbeing why should the rest of us suffer.

Look at relevant statistics over the last few weeks and restrictions on our lives are an overreaction.

MrsHastingslikethebattle · 25/03/2021 17:13

@ButtonMoony People call something a conspiracy theory when your opinion doesn't match theirs or the mainstream media.

As you say button, the over 65s are vaccinated now, which they contributed to the majority of deaths and hospital admissions.
They cannot justify these lockdowns and they certainly cant compare to last year when there were no vaccines.

ButtonMoony · 25/03/2021 17:21

There are currently less than 4000 people in the whole of the UK in hospital with COVID.

Give us our lives back!

MissConductUS · 25/03/2021 17:39

Public health specialists and epidemiologists are really the people you have to look to for an informed opinion about when it is safe to relax precautions. The trend is certainly favorable, but cherry-picking data to support the conclusion you want isn't a recipe for good policy.

ButtonMoony · 25/03/2021 18:20

@MissConductUS

Public health specialists and epidemiologists are really the people you have to look to for an informed opinion about when it is safe to relax precautions. The trend is certainly favorable, but cherry-picking data to support the conclusion you want isn't a recipe for good policy.
Agree. So people using mortality rates from countries with different levels of vaccination or indeed figures from the UK more than a week old should give it a rest
RunnerDown · 25/03/2021 23:56

[quote MrsHastingslikethebattle]@ButtonMoony People call something a conspiracy theory when your opinion doesn't match theirs or the mainstream media.

As you say button, the over 65s are vaccinated now, which they contributed to the majority of deaths and hospital admissions.
They cannot justify these lockdowns and they certainly cant compare to last year when there were no vaccines.[/quote]
The over 65 s are not vaccinated.They have received 1 dose of the vaccine. Only 4.2% of the population are fully vacccinated ,

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