Outbreaks in schools

[Trustisamust]

Since schools have returned there have already been major outbreaks in both my child's secondary and the primary I work at.
The majority of school staff remain unvaccinated.
For how many other schools is this already the case?
I just don't know what to think any more.

And it’s pretty much a moot point now due to the supply issue/month delay on first vaccines.

@Waxonwaxoff0

I'm not against vaccines for teachers either, but teachers are not the only people working in risky jobs and vaccines need to go to those at highest risk of needing hospital treatment if they catch Covid.

I fail to see how school staff getting vaccinated makes me safer either, DS could still catch it from classmates and bring it home, and I could still catch it from my colleagues in the factory I work at.

Because it interrupts learning. Because it is a lie that children aren't infectious. Because noone else can take the class Because teachers don't want to fall ill Becasue parents cant go to work if children aren't at school

@Trustisamust

Also, I am aware that some parents haven't consented to their child being tested? My son still says they are allowed to attend school but I don't know if that's true?

This is true.

@BungleandGeorge

Having the vaccine doesn’t stop you getting the disease although it probably makes it less likely. It also doesn’t alter isolation rules so as far as keeping schools open it’s not that effective. It is of course of benefit to individuals, particularly those in vulnerable groups.

I don’t think that’s true about it only bro of benefit to those who are vulnerable. I think they’re finding that it cuts transmission by 30-54%, and that’s when it’s only one person in the house who’s been vaccinated.

www.publichealthscotland.scot/news/2021/march/covid-19-vaccine-linked-to-a-reduction-in-transmission/

Original trials didn’t test the effect on transmission, so the data is just coming though.

*being of benefit!

I must be a cool dude indeed if I often use ‘bro’ on my phone

@motherrunner

To those saying ‘no cases’ in schools, how would you know?

We only alert the year group affected, not the whole school.

I am one of the test processors.

@Trustisamust

As someone said on another thread, these LFD tests are like "taking a pregnancy test when you're already pregnant!"

Isn't that generally the time when people take pregnancy tests???

@Fortherosesjoni70 but children can still get the virus and aren't going to be vaccinated yet so learning will be interrupted anyway. And teachers will still have to isolate if one of their students gets Covid. No one wants to get ill, not just teachers.

[quote JustJustWhy]@motherrunner

To those saying ‘no cases’ in schools, how would you know?

We only alert the year group affected, not the whole school.

I am one of the test processors.[/quote]
Our school alerts the whole school.

In greater Manchester the evening newspaper reports school closures and there is already loads. The rate in this area was dropping nicely now it’s going back up. I have colleagues whose kids are isolating due to positive contacts from the first week.

Round my way two/three weeks before they went back the teens locally started appearing back in the streets in big groups hanging about like teens sometimes do . I get that they were probably fed up and allowed out to socialise etc to help them but it’s no surprise that it’s still spreading with young people when they were all in such close contact.

[quote JustJustWhy]@motherrunner

To those saying ‘no cases’ in schools, how would you know?

We only alert the year group affected, not the whole school.

I am one of the test processors.[/quote]
My point is unless you are ‘in the know’, how would you know if there were any cases?

I know when bubbles burst at my school but I wouldn’t know if any burst at my DC’s school (unless it was their year group).

@Fortherosesjoni70 and parents couldn't go to work when schools were closed to all but key worker children! Bet you weren't bothered then.

*not full closures I mean bubbles popping/year groups closing etc

[quote Waxonwaxoff0]@Fortherosesjoni70 and parents couldn't go to work when schools were closed to all but key worker children! Bet you weren't bothered then.[/quote]
Well if you were a key worker then you would have got a place most likely. I don't make the rules.

Teachers still had to work. Don't really get your point.

Also, you shouldn't have been going to work.

WFH No?

I think all key workers should get it. Not just teachers.

@Fortherosesjoni70

Also, you shouldn't have been going to work.

Why shouldn't I have been going to work?

@Fortherosesjoni70

WFH No?

I work in a factory. I cannot work from home. I am not classed as a key worker because what we make is not essential. DS's dad is a key worker so luckily we did get a place but I would not have been able to work otherwise. Not all non KW can work from home.

Well for what it is worth, I think its very hard for people who are in circumstances similar to yourself. I have an older ds who is a delivery driver so is at risk too.
I'm glad you got a place for your child. I think you should also get the vaccine esp since there have been plenty of outbreaks in factories.

@Fortherosesjoni70

Well for what it is worth, I think its very hard for people who are in circumstances similar to yourself. I have an older ds who is a delivery driver so is at risk too. I'm glad you got a place for your child. I think you should also get the vaccine esp since there have been plenty of outbreaks in factories.

Thank you, appreciated. We had an outbreak in Jan at work. 19 cases. Luckily I didn't catch it! It seems to have calmed down now.

@Fortherosesjoni70 just a few things....

1.Because it interrupts learning.
2.Because it is a lie that children aren't infectious.
3.Because noone else can take the class
4.Because teachers don't want to fall ill
5.Becasue parents cant go to work if children aren't at school

1. Weve managed without being in school for 7 months in the last 2 school years. 2 weeks of a isolating would not be the end of the world because the kids would have to isolate too and work from home as they did before.
2. Not sure anyone has ever said children aren't infectious? Although it is likely they are less likely to pass it on due to a smaller viral load.
3. The class wouldnt be in? Because theyd also have to isolate.
4. No-one "wants" to fall ill but unfortunately people will become ill in their lifetimes!
5. Many parents jiggled their lives around (even keyworkers) to help schools and keep kids off for 7 months - theyve managed before and will again. (Still not relevant as the kids would also have to be isolating so parents would have to sort childcare anyway!).

My point is unless you are ‘in the know’, how would you know if there were any cases?

Our school informs all parents of every case in the school, regardless of year group. It’s their policy, has been from the start. So you don’t have to be ‘in the know’, you’re just told.

@TheOneWithTheBigNose

My point is unless you are ‘in the know’, how would you know if there were any cases?

Our school informs all parents of every case in the school, regardless of year group. It’s their policy, has been from the start. So you don’t have to be ‘in the know’, you’re just told.

Ive just this second had an email from my daughters secondary school saying there is a confirmed case in school. Doesnt say which year. Theyve dont that from the start also.