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EU threatening to cut off supply of vaccines to UK

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Iremembertheelderlykoreanlady · 17/03/2021 13:24

Because they've not got enough apparently (despite the fact that they've got a shit load of AZ stockpiled because they've mostly stopped using it)

This is really starting to piss me off now, and has someone who is due 2nd Pfizer jab in 8 weeks in starting to worry I won't get it!

They're threatening to stop supply to USA too.

Wankers

www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/ursula-von-der-leyen-threatens-cut-off-covid-exports-uk-b924652.html

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LimitIsUp · 19/03/2021 17:32

Hugely interesting article in the Times btw - its behind a pay wall though.
If you don't have a subscription consider getting one.

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/boris-johnson-building-alliance-to-stop-eu-blocking-vaccine-supplies-j3pknjxkl

Britain is building an alliance against Brussels, Germany, France and Italy to prevent a European Union vaccine export ban hitting crucial supplies of Pfizer-BioNTech jabs.

Boris Johnson spoke to Alexander De Croo, the Belgian prime minister, last night because Belgium, where the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine is manufactured, is opposed to export bans.

The prime minister contacted De Croo, who has been critical of him in the past, to try to ensure that vaccine supplies are not blocked and because Belgium plays a key role with France and Italy.

“We discussed our efforts to tackle Covid-19. We also touched on the importance of global supply chains and on common efforts to speed up vaccine production,” De Croo said after what he described as a “good call”.

The new round of frantic vaccine diplomacy comes before an EU meeting next Thursday with the aim, said sources, of ensuring that deliveries of the Pfizer-BioNTech jab are not disrupted, jeopardising Britain’s vaccine programme and poisoning already tense relations with the EU irreversibly.

Belgium, Ireland, the Netherlands, Poland and Sweden are against the threat made by Ursula von der Leyen, the European Commission president, to stop exports.

The Belgian government is concerned that export bans would damage the pharmaceutical industry, especially Pfizer’s huge Puurs production site, by damaging supply chains that rely on international trade, including British factories.

On Wednesday von der Leyen, the former German defence minister, who is very close to Germany’s chancellor, Angela Merkel, threatened to trigger emergency powers allowing the EU to seize vaccines or take control of factories that are making jabs earmarked for export.

She said that the EU was targeting Britain as “country No 1” because AstraZeneca was not meeting European delivery promises while supplying the government with jabs from its two British factories.

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Following her ultimatum Johnson phoned von der Leyen directly on Wednesday evening to ask what was going on, why she had not spoken to him first, and to seek assurances given last month that the UK would get the Pfizer-BioNTech jabs it had paid for.

Officials and diplomats said Germany, France and Italy support the plan to ratchet up the pressure on Britain, which is being blamed for the EU’s slow rollout of jabs.

The three countries’ governments are concerned that their flagging vaccine rollouts amid increased infections and new lockdown restrictions will tear down Germany’s Christian Democrats in the September elections, damage Emmanuel Macron ahead of presidential votes in France next spring and wound Mario Draghi, Italy’s technocrat prime minister.

In return for continued exports the EU hawks are demanding “reciprocal and proportionate” vaccine exports from the UK’s AstraZeneca factories. This would require the pharmaceutical company to honour its European contract by reneging on its commitments to the government, which funded the vaccine’s development.

“I support the announcements made by the president of the European Commission and the decisions taken to require all laboratories to honour the orders on which they have committed themselves with the Europeans and in particular to demand reciprocity,” Macron said on Wednesday.

On the other side are countries including Ireland, the Netherlands, Poland, Sweden and Belgium who fear that export bans to Britain will severely damage their economies as well as unleash an unprecedented conflict in peacetime.

The EU is escalating vaccine tensions at a time when European governments have stockpiled 18.5 million doses that are going unused, of which 7.2 million are made by AstraZeneca. “This is not rational,” said one EU diplomat opposed to export bans. “It will not end well.”

The doves warn that stopping shipments under contract or seizing production would tear down the international supply chains that Europe’s pharmaceutical industry is built on.

One diplomat said that Pfizer’s supplies of vaccine, with 200 million EU doses expected by the end of June, would quickly grind to a halt if British factories making it were disrupted by what would quickly become tit-for-tat export bans.

“It would be like that moment in Reservoir Dogs. If the EU pulls the trigger everyone’s guns go off and we are all dead,” a diplomatic source said.

Truelymadlydeeplysomeonesmum · 19/03/2021 17:43

Thank you for posting the Times article. Very interesting.

LimitIsUp · 19/03/2021 17:48

No problem. I resisted getting a subscription for a while because my politics are actually left of centre, but I do enjoy reading it

Itsalonghaul · 19/03/2021 17:59

Not

It was not three scandi countries that decided to block the ports at Christmas, and stop all trade, or have you forgotten that? Have you forgotten the number of insults? Doubting the efficacy of the vaccines in older age groups - before conceeding.

Of course people will focus on Macron, he barely conceals his hatred for the UK. We can be left in very little doubt when we see his lip curling at the mere mention of us. I believe some countries were concerned perhaps and others (like France) choose to exploit the situation even knowing that the vaccines were safe. He is political, vengeful and now on the backfoot. Not a good place to be for a leader running up to an election that is bound to lose if the third wave arrives and wipes out the summer.

MissConductUS · 19/03/2021 18:00

The other angle the EU should be considering is that if they start confiscating the property of American companies, like the Pfizer plant in Belgium, the Biden Administration will find a way to hit back. Politically, they'll have to. Then it will be war with both the UK and the US. That would be monumentally stupid of them.

I'm not concerned for the US particularly. Pfizer, Moderna, and J&J are doing most of their manufacturing in the US and Novavax has some domestic production already running, in addition to contract manufacturing overseas.

Baileysforchristmas · 19/03/2021 18:01

@LimitIsUp very interesting, I think the elections in EU countries are having a big effect on the vaccine rollout

deliciouschilli · 19/03/2021 18:02

Croda, based in Snaith Yorkshire, is where the "carrier" (lipids?) is manufactured for the Phizer vaccine. It is also manufactured in the US but I assume they use that for their own supply.
If they block vaccines to the UK I assume we will block the raw materials (which would stop production and be a disaster for everyone) It's ill thought through at best.

Dongdingdong · 19/03/2021 18:03

The EU is escalating vaccine tensions at a time when European governments have stockpiled 18.5 million doses that are going unused, of which 7.2 million are made by AstraZeneca. “This is not rational,” said one EU diplomat opposed to export bans. “It will not end well.”

Beyond useless. Ursula Von der Leyen needs to resign.

LimitIsUp · 19/03/2021 18:04

"Of course people will focus on Macron, he barely conceals his hatred for the UK. We can be left in very little doubt when we see his lip curling at the mere mention of us. "

Yep.

Boph · 19/03/2021 18:06

“It would be like that moment in Reservoir Dogs. If the EU pulls the trigger everyone’s guns go off and we are all dead,” a diplomatic source said
@LimitIsUp fascinating article. I am tempted to subscribe. My politics are also slightly left but I read the DT.

LimitIsUp · 19/03/2021 18:08

I did post earlier on this thread suggesting that we needed to dial down the temperature re UK v EU on vaccines, but its pretty hard not to get dragged into an adversarial stance given the messaging / threats from the likes of Macron and VDL

Truelymadlydeeplysomeonesmum · 19/03/2021 18:11

Biden already made noises when they had a blip with the Irish border. Also at the export of vaccines clearance system they added. Biden said something about it better not stop exports then

Truelymadlydeeplysomeonesmum · 19/03/2021 18:15

[quote Baileysforchristmas]@LimitIsUp very interesting, I think the elections in EU countries are having a big effect on the vaccine rollout[/quote]
Totally agree

Merkel's lot didn't do well a local ones recently or something. Press there seems to be saying because of pandemic and vaccine handling (Though mostly I think she has done well). They need to look very reactive to the voters now.

Truelymadlydeeplysomeonesmum · 19/03/2021 18:20

@LimitIsUp

I did post earlier on this thread suggesting that we needed to dial down the temperature re UK v EU on vaccines, but its pretty hard not to get dragged into an adversarial stance given the messaging / threats from the likes of Macron and VDL
The press definitely need to dial it down.

They have started on India now. It doesn't exactly help the government keep things smooth. British press slagging off the country's prime minister or the AZ manufacture in India.

LimitIsUp · 19/03/2021 18:26

Is it the tabloid press that have started on India? I haven't seen any articles. Disappointing if so because I think the decision to delay vaccines to the UK was understandable

MissConductUS · 19/03/2021 18:32

@deliciouschilli

Croda, based in Snaith Yorkshire, is where the "carrier" (lipids?) is manufactured for the Phizer vaccine. It is also manufactured in the US but I assume they use that for their own supply. If they block vaccines to the UK I assume we will block the raw materials (which would stop production and be a disaster for everyone) It's ill thought through at best.
Pfizer has a wholly-owned subsidiary in the US called Avanti Polar Lipids that's making them and Moderna is contracting with a company in Colorado for them. In both cases, the supply of specialty chemicals needed is very, very tight and the constraining factor in the production of the vaccines.
Baileysforchristmas · 19/03/2021 18:36

And with the numbers going up in Germany travel restrictions and holidays are beginning

www.reuters.com/article/reutersComService_2_MOLT/idUSKBN2BB1UX

Baileysforchristmas · 19/03/2021 18:38

I think we should keep our borders tightly shut for another year.

deliciouschilli · 19/03/2021 18:46

MissConductUS, Croda based in Yorkshire has been sub-contracted for a while now to make the Lipids. I'm guessing that they supply the Phizer factory in Belgium. I agree, supply is key and any disruption could be really tough.

Umbivalent · 19/03/2021 18:47

@notimagain

M Macron never follows the science when he thinks he can make some political points, and never mind that he's damaging confidence in a very safe, effective vaccine along the way angry

TBH what I do find interesting this PM is that despite the French have very much relaxed restrictions the obsession continues with discussing Mr Macron, (not sure why), and that there's barely a mention of the fact that three Scandinavian nations have decided to retain much more stringent restrictions or bans on the use of AZ than the French.....

Any thoughts on that or will it be the standard Pavlovianesque response be "ah but Macron"?

Oh well done the French, you've relaxed restrictions you should never have put in place, while simultaneously inventing a totally new non-medical-based restriction!

We don't discuss the Scandinavians so much because, basically, they're not as powerful in the EU as Macron is. However, I was discussing it with DH earlier and he was baffled as they are generally more pragmatic nations. And, of course - AZ is part Swedish!

They've obviously decided not to trust the EMA's opinion, which is awks.

MissConductUS · 19/03/2021 18:58

I think that the French and Macron are still butthurt that the Sanofi vaccine failed so miserably and had to be abandoned. That took away their leverage within the EU.

Umbivalent · 19/03/2021 19:00

Yes, double embarrassment there. Poor little Jupiterian thought he would be lording it!

Truelymadlydeeplysomeonesmum · 19/03/2021 19:23

@LimitIsUp

Is it the tabloid press that have started on India? I haven't seen any articles. Disappointing if so because I think the decision to delay vaccines to the UK was understandable
Ok I just went to find the stories and they are gone. Definitely there late last night???

Maybe they were asked remove them. Very odd.

Itsalonghaul · 19/03/2021 19:37

Anyone with half a brain would force VDL to resign, the fact that no one seems capable or to have the authority to do so even if they wanted to, because her position seems 'untouchable' is truly scary when she is in charge of such escalating tensions of such magnitude.

At the moment she is giving Trump a run for his money, and even he wouldn't be so stupid as to start a trade war with countries he relies to produce raw materials for life saving vaccines!

MrsHuntGeneNotJeremyObviously · 19/03/2021 22:02

I can understand using AZ for only 55+ if you have a fuck ton of alternative vaccines readily available. But if you don't, and your country is in its 3rd wave, and you have to have yet another lockdown, then it's madness. Even if there's a tiny risk, it's much less than the risk associated with Covid.

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