Texas USA is removing all restrictions

[Blueberries0112]

On March 10th, Texas is removing all restrictions and I hope it doesn’t get out of control, they do expect people to used some common sense, but this is not good news because it cause schools and jobs to be forced close contact with each other. (Like sharing school desks to fit students in one classroom)

And it doesn’t matter if all citizens had their vaccinations or not

Yes I saw that. I hope it works out for them.

This is insane. While I appreciate that individual states have autonomy, and the whole, 'Don't Mess with Texas,' mantra, maybe I would respect this more if they didn't take so much federal funds, and didn't have a majority of Democratic voters in Houston, where they actually take accurate statistics of Covid.

Meh. They are hardly the only state doing this, they’ll be fine

@UsedUpUsername

Meh. They are hardly the only state doing this, they’ll be fine

Which other states running full capacity?

I know a town near me is but that’s just a smaller town but I think they still have to follow some guidelines from the state

I have two friends in the States. One in Las Vegas. Medical student, about to qualify as a doctor. She’s just back from a week in Mexico. Ive watched her attend hen parties, weddings and travelling around on little breaks for most of last year & certainly a lot of this one.

My other is in Illinois. On Monday posted a photo of her visiting her fertility doctor at a hospital with her newborn. 10 people in the photograph, none in masks & huddled together. At first I was like oh that’s nice & then I was like, hang on.. 🙈

Texas has vaccinated something like a third of adults, why not? There was an interesting comparison of California which has had lockdowns and Florida which has been pretty much open since a short lockdown last spring. Their death rates are the same, which given Florida’s elderly population is interesting.

I think Texas are doing well with vaccinations.

And yep have a look at Florida versus California. There’s evidence if you ever need it. Maybe they did that and concluded lifting restrictions would be the best idea.

I suppose we’ll see the impact, not sure which way it will go.

www.aarp.org/politics-society/government-elections/info-2020/coronavirus-state-restrictions.html State by state restrictions

Its pretty damming when you have that state comparison of Flora and Califor in.

Enough is enough esp here in the UK where we have vaccinated more people (eveb if its just the first dose).

Maybe Texas is driven by data rather than specfic dates. Like we are supposed to be..

If you have looked at other country's like Sweden, the peaks and falls have seemed to be similar this country with less restrictions. Texas may or may not be making right decision only time will tell.

Texas has the lowest per capita vaccinations done and only fully vaccinated 7.1% of the population. The governor is being a dick basically. Our school districts have said they are following the education authority and for now everything will stay the same in schools. Biden has just extended vaccines to teachers so that something.

We’ll carry in as we have been which is what the governor is relying on now, but plenty will be happy to throw away the masks and stop social distancing. It will also be up to businesses if they want to open at 100% capacity or stay at reduced levels. To be honest it’s almost life as normal out there except mask wearing and home working.

It'll be interesting to see how it pans out for them. My 30-something friend lives in Houston and has had her vaccine.

I thought Illinois had mandatory mask requirements in all indoor spaces.

@Delatron

I think Texas are doing well with vaccinations.

And yep have a look at Florida versus California. There’s evidence if you ever need it. Maybe they did that and concluded lifting restrictions would be the best idea.

The California versus Florida comparison really doesn't allow you to say lockdown restrictions aren't effective. The populations are not comparable and there's many unmeasured factors at play.

This is cherry-picking a restrictive state that’s done worse than other restrictive states, and choosing a permissive state that’s fared better than other permissive states to try and prove a point.This comparison isn’t accidental, it's a deliberate choice of outliers that favor a point of view.

For example, you're ignoring Vermont and Hawaii, which have some of the lowest per capita case rates in the US (2,341 and 1,912 per 100,000, respectively) and among the most restrictive policies.

Equally this doesn't prove that heavy restrictions are better than light restrictions, it's just to highlight the point that we don't have a deep enough of an understanding at this point in time.

Well no you’re right @oldegg123 Florida has a much older population than California...

It’s worth looking at surely?

We’ll see how it plays out. I understand it though. We’re a year in to this shit, states are doing different things and getting similar results. I think it’s understandable that some see there is an argument to lift restrictions now the vaccine program is rolling out.

@Delatron

Well no you’re right *@oldegg123* Florida has a much older population than California...

It’s worth looking at surely?

We’ll see how it plays out. I understand it though. We’re a year in to this shit, states are doing different things and getting similar results. I think it’s understandable that some see there is an argument to lift restrictions now the vaccine program is rolling out.

But again that's just cherry picking? Yes the population in Florida is on average older, but that's not the only difference between the two states. There's many factors that could be confounding the relationship between COVID policies and deaths - ethnicity, socioeconomic status, healthcare provision, population density just to name a few.

Cherry picking or important information that could be studied regarding the effects of lockdown versus no lockdown!

@Delatron

Cherry picking or important information that could be studied regarding the effects of lockdown versus no lockdown!

For sure, but studying should be done in an unbiased way to form robust conclusions.

This means looking at all states, not just those that support a specific hypothesis, and trying to account for differences between populations as mentioned above. People who quote the California versus Florida argument are totally ignoring the states mentioned above who have done well with restrictive policies.

Yes but you’re completely ignoring the economic and all the other devastating impacts of continued repeated lockdowns @oldegg123

Florida’s economy is doing pretty well now. And they have a similar death rate to California and they have a much older population. We have to question and analyse this. Lockdowns of corse work initially but not long term when you way up the other costs.

Course

I'm in Florida...

everything is open.. schools still homeschooling though but kids can attend school in person should they so wish.. the Teachers are in the school

it's fine.. everyone is wearing masks and socially distancing where I am anyway.. I can't answer for any other local areas..

Publixs are vaccinating.. I believe Walgreens will be soon too 🌺

@Delatron

Yes but you’re completely ignoring the economic and all the other devastating impacts of continued repeated lockdowns *@oldegg123*

Florida’s economy is doing pretty well now. And they have a similar death rate to California and they have a much older population. We have to question and analyse this. Lockdowns of corse work initially but not long term when you way up the other costs.

I didn't say a thing about whether lockdowns were a good policy or not, I just simply said that the Florida versus California argument that you stated cannot be used to prove that lockdowns aren't effective in preventing deaths...