To wonder why covid cases are still so high?

[katiemumma20]

I didn’t really know where else to post this but it’s really just a nosey post! If you’ve had covid in 2021 I’m wondering where did you get it from? Supermarket? Hospital? Or another place of work? This post really isn’t meant to be judgemental I’m just wondering! I’m a secondary school teacher and hoping beyond hope that cases take a dramatic plummet between now and the 8th of March as I was disappointed the cases were still at 10,000 today!

Evening, @katiemumma20 - just to let you know that we're moving this over to the Coronavirus topic now as we think it's probably best there.

Thanks.

The person I know who's got covid at the moment caught it from her DC, who almost certainly got it at nursery.

Yes there are. I think there was panic in lockdown number one, places like McDonald's and coffee shops closed even though they didn't have to. I work in manufacturing and in lockdown one we had to close for 8 weeks as our suppliers closed, even though we have always been allowed to stay open under the rules.

This time around places have got Covid secure and can't afford to close again.

What do you mean, so high? The rolling average is a little over 10k now, down from 60k at the peak just over a month ago. I think that's bloody amazing actually given that 94% of our cases are the more transmissible Kent variant.

I mean so high because yesterday there were nearly 10,000 cases. Last spring when the whole country shut down the peak was around 4,000. Yes they are massively down on the recent peak, but could easily spiral out of control again if we are not careful.

@katiemumma20 but that wasn't the number though .....hardly any tests were conducted. You can't compare now and then at all.

No idea where I caught it from. I did see my mum in the back of a ambulance but unless it had over ten days incubation, mum.and my sister ( all in the ambulance) didnt show symptoms it wasnt there.

Someone coughed in my face when I went to the bank but unless it had 24 hour incubation, it wasnt there.

So I'm guessing a symptomatic person most likely one of my kids but only me, out out of family of six had symptoms so I honestly dont know.

Track and trace was only interested in the person after seeing my mum and before being coughed on in the bank, so I have no idea

With the less transmissible coronavirus type and with far, far with less testing capacity.

@Pootle40 true but for me it’s still enough for me to consider 10,000 ‘high’

Fair enough I think the drop in the last few weeks is phenomenal. It ultimately is a very survivable virus. The campaign of 'fear' was to ensure compliance of lockdown.

Ok, so then coronavirus cases are so high because you consider them high, even though they are not comparable with the figures we had available last spring.

I'm not sure why some posters are claiming that 'no-one know where they got it from' because of course some people do!

My DH got it from going into the office, he works for a company who 'don't do wfh', he then gave it to me, luckily children didn't get it and neither of us were very ill.

Havent been out since coming out of isolation it's very clear in some places that social distancing has gone out of the window, some shops not restricting numbers, lots of people not wearing masks. This on top of a number of communities that have pretty much ignore the rules throughout tells you why we still have cases.

My elderly Aunt and Uncle tested positive 2 Jan - definitely xmas mixing as their DS and DIL tested positive five days earlier. Only other place they could have got it was packaging on food dropped off.

@katiemumma20

I mean so high because yesterday there were nearly 10,000 cases. Last spring when the whole country shut down the peak was around 4,000. Yes they are massively down on the recent peak, but could easily spiral out of control again if we are not careful.

Experts think it was more likely 100,000 cases per day at the peak last Spring.

Even 10,000 currently is likely an underestimate by 20-30k.

Eg for recent ONS data there something like 500k in England for a week, yet only something like 120k confirmed Covid positive cases for that week.

@starfish4

My elderly Aunt and Uncle tested positive 2 Jan - definitely xmas mixing as their DS and DIL tested positive five days earlier. Only other place they could have got it was packaging on food dropped off.

100% they did not get it from food packaging.

So DS and DIL tested positive on 27th/28th but felt perfectly fine 2 days prior to see the Aunt and Uncle?

Christmas 2020 will be studied as easily the biggest spreading event for the entire pandemic.

Cases are the level they are (thankfully reducing) because Mr Johnson ignored SAGE advice in September for several weeks, then would not close schools early for Christmas, and even re-opened them for a day in January. Then there are people forced to work who may have the virus, or in offices where they can easily wfh.

Celebrate the rollout of the vaccine but never forget that thousands fewer would have died if we had a competent Prime Minister.

@Doomsdayiscoming oh really! Very interesting to know that. Weirdly in my personal experience I didn’t know of anyone that got it in the spring but knew lots of people who got it in October. Of course that is purely anecdotal. Reassuring to see the numbers as you’ve put them.

[quote katiemumma20]@Doomsdayiscoming oh really! Very interesting to know that. Weirdly in my personal experience I didn’t know of anyone that got it in the spring but knew lots of people who got it in October. Of course that is purely anecdotal. Reassuring to see the numbers as you’ve put them.[/quote]
In spring they (and you) wouldn’t have know they had it because only those hospitalised were tested.

@MrBullinaChinaShop true! But no one I heard of even had symptoms or suspected they had it and couldn’t get a test. Whereas in the autumn I know many people who fully came down with it! But that’s purely people I know and not reflective of the numbers clearly.

People keep saying that but it is just as strict as the first lockdown

it isn't as strict - early years provision is open, more kids are in school, there are shops that could have been open first time around that weren't (that might have been that they weren't covid secure but not sure it takes 10 weeks to sort that out); some office workers are having to be in the office despite being able to work from home, and you can meet someone for exercise (not that I think transmission outside is a significant risk).

It's a very strange illness and doesn't transmit how you might think it would. Eg. Family of 5, mum dad and 3 adult sons. Son 2 and dad get covid symptoms, whole family gets tested. Mum and sons 1 and 3 do not have it and do not develop symptoms in isolation. Dad and son 2 keep themselves away from the other 3. Dad is really quite poorly (bad pain not breathing problems) with it and 111 send out the ambulance on one occasion around day 12. He goes on to recover. Son 2 is not that ill and is soon recovered. They have no idea where they caught it from. That's the problem with the wretched thing and why we should stay home where possible and keep our distance.

I became ill in the first week of March lockdown... I had been in London 5 days before with work and had sat next to what turned out to be a confirmed case in the office. After 12 weeks of illness I had a chest X-ray due to a constant cough and my notes say I had ‘suspected Covid’, but I couldn’t get a test as I wasn’t hospitalised. The rest of my family of 5 had mild symptoms (high temps, coughs, gastric symptoms). Had that all happened last month we’d all likely have been confirmed cases, but as it was last March none of us were.

The most recent person I know who caught it, got it form their stepchild who caught it from their dad who was a keyworker, the kids were going between the 2 houses between parents.

I caught it at work - tiny SEN school. 12 out of 17 staff all came down with it in one week.

I teach in a SEN school. In January one member of staff tested positive then another 4 TA's and 2 children (plus their families) from his bubble tested positive. We had cases before Christmas but not this much spread