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Had my invite, but how can I find out in advance which jab I'll be getting?

268 replies

PerspicaciousGreen · 22/02/2021 13:14

I got one of the new shielding letters last week moving me into group six for vaccines, and had my invite today. I've been offered a choice of two centres: one place a short walk away, one absolutely miles and miles away. Plenty of appointments next week, but no information other than an appointment time to select and an address.

I will only accept certain vaccines due to religious reasons, so I would like to find out what vaccine they are distributing at each centre before I book an appointment. The close one is an ex youth centre and I googled their phone number but no one answered - presumably because the office is closed.

I don't want to waste an appointment by booking and then having to find out it's the wrong one when I get there. I suppose I could walk past it and drop in, but that seems like madness covid-wise.

WWYD?

OP posts:
ChloeCrocodile · 22/02/2021 23:53

I don't need to discuss anything with you. Read my posts throughout this thread. People are free to pick and choose which parts of the doctrine they wish to follow, they are also free to have a 'take what they fancy' approach. It's not right, it goes against the teachings of the church but as long as people have free will, they will do as they choose. Rightly or wrongly.

Of course you don’t need to, and of course I have read your posts. I’m sorry if you felt I was trying to impose on you. I simply meant that the “take it or leave it” idea which largely comes (ime) from outside the Church isn’t actually correct. It serves as a useful but simplistic explanation for those who have a passing interest.

Consulting your own conscience is a far greater responsibility than “what do i feel like doing now” though I obviously understand that some people aren’t used to considering the deeper morality of their choices. On occasion when my personal conscience has come to disagreement with the church it has taken me a lot of time and effort to make a decision. I can’t guarantee my choice was correct but I’m pretty sure I put enough thought (over 6 months) in to it.

NoseinBook3 · 23/02/2021 00:19

The big vaccine hub I went to only had AZ

digitaldays · 23/02/2021 00:48

I think you should wait longer. There are plenty of other vaccines coming on the market soon, and possibly in the future there will be a greater choice.
You appear to be lower risk anyway.
I'm a vaccinator and quite a few patients have held me up with their questions regarding choice of vaccine etc. If in doubt, please don't waste a valuable slot.
I'm a Catholic as well a d if it's good enough for the Pope..

BlueThistles · 23/02/2021 01:15

@digitaldays

I think you should wait longer. There are plenty of other vaccines coming on the market soon, and possibly in the future there will be a greater choice. You appear to be lower risk anyway. I'm a vaccinator and quite a few patients have held me up with their questions regarding choice of vaccine etc. If in doubt, please don't waste a valuable slot. I'm a Catholic as well a d if it's good enough for the Pope..

wise words 🌺

YowMyHead · 23/02/2021 01:30

NRTFT, but your best bet might be to ask in your local FB groups

I had AZ, if someone had asked me as I was leaving the centre which vaccine was being used I would have said, no issue

My understanding is people are not being offered a choice, even on days when both are in stock.

BettysButtons · 23/02/2021 04:46

Having an allergy towards a vaccine is a very different matter to following some bonkers religious doctrine.

The OP’s dilemma is her own. The church encourages the use of the vaccine.

Bluesername · 23/02/2021 05:02

Do you analyse the content of any of your medication, over-the-counter remedies, toiletries, cosmetics and household products too?

eurochick · 23/02/2021 07:20

So your reason for potentially declining a vaccine is "the sanctity of life"? Do you not see a logic fail there?

MRex · 23/02/2021 07:24

@ChloeCrocodile - some people aren’t used to considering the deeper morality of their choices
That statement is very arrogant and vulgar. Having a different view on religion than others does not give you the moral high ground you appear to believe it does. Every toddler begins to learn a framework for their own behaviour, and by age 5 the vast majority of children are able to absorb lessons from stories. Every adult uses their ethical framework to make decisions about their life, every day. Your views are not superior to another person's views, they are simply the product of your own brain with all its inherent strengths, weaknesses and eccentricities. Moral absolutism is as easy to tear down philosophically as ethical relativism, neither the world nor human life are simple.

Remmy123 · 23/02/2021 07:38

I know many strict catholic's and not one has mentioned this.

Catholic faith is extremely dated anyway.

Get what you are given because if you waste a vaccine and refuse it .. you are a shit.

TiddyTid · 23/02/2021 07:47

But what if you get the virus OP then pass it on to someone who is pregnant and she subsequently dies of Covid. Where do your morals sit there?

Psychobobble · 23/02/2021 07:52

That tiny baby in 1973 who never got to live is very sad. But he or she has, through their death, literally saved thousands and thousands and thousands of lives. I think that isn't a bad legacy.

tarapinn · 23/02/2021 08:12

🙄

SerendipityJane · 23/02/2021 09:42

@Psychobobble

That tiny baby in 1973 who never got to live is very sad. But he or she has, through their death, literally saved thousands and thousands and thousands of lives. I think that isn't a bad legacy.
and Gods will.
digitaldays · 23/02/2021 11:00

This is such an interesting thread, and as a catholic ( vaccinator!) it has really got me thinking.
I hope it isn't too controversial to suggest that those who decline vaccines, or any other expected norms of society on religious grounds ( despite being assured by their own religious leaders that it's ok and "allowed") would be considered extremists?

murbblurb · 23/02/2021 11:26

the OP does appear to have seen sense and decided to decline the invite. For info, some centres have different vaccines on different days.

Making life difficult/risky due to religion is entirely your choice, OP, and as we are in a free society you go right ahead. What you do NOT have the right to do is put someone else at risk, which you would do by taking an appointment and then declining the vaccine. That is evil, selfish and disgusting, and by putting that course of action down to your religion you make your religion look evil, selfish and disgusting.

SerendipityJane · 23/02/2021 11:32

@digitaldays

This is such an interesting thread, and as a catholic ( vaccinator!) it has really got me thinking. I hope it isn't too controversial to suggest that those who decline vaccines, or any other expected norms of society on religious grounds ( despite being assured by their own religious leaders that it's ok and "allowed") would be considered extremists?
Seems to use too many letters for my liking.

Idiots ?

ineedaholidaynow · 23/02/2021 13:12

If COVID passports/certificates are brought in, I wonder if religious beliefs will have to be taken into account, or as many religious leaders are saying vaccines are fine, they might not and people will have to accept they might not be able to have the same access to activities as vaccinated people do

SerendipityJane · 23/02/2021 13:20

If COVID passports/certificates are brought in, I wonder if religious beliefs will have to be taken into account

Well I would hope they were all equally ignored. It's the best we can hope for.

VinylDetective · 23/02/2021 13:24

What you do NOT have the right to do is put someone else at risk, which you would do by taking an appointment and then declining the vaccine. That is evil, selfish and disgusting, and by putting that course of action down to your religion you make your religion look evil, selfish and disgusting

Oh, chill out. You make it sound like it’s on a par with eating babies.

SomersetHamlyn · 23/02/2021 13:34

Oh, chill out. You make it sound like it’s on a par with eating babies.

Yes, awful. OP doesn't agree with eating babies. Only destroying women.

VinylDetective · 23/02/2021 13:38

More drama, ffs. Destroying women indeed!

TheGoingIsGood · 23/02/2021 13:51

I was able to choose what vaccine I received. The email clearly gave me 3 options of place and listed which vaccine each held.

I think the poster has every right to want to choose what is put into her body. Personally I would take what was offered but that others have the right to choose.

SomersetHamlyn · 23/02/2021 13:58

@VinylDetective More drama, ffs. Destroying women indeed!

Suggest you Google Savita Halappanavar as a starting point.

@TheGoingIsGood Personally I would take what was offered but that others have the right to choose.

Oh the irony.

KeepWashingThoseHands · 23/02/2021 14:00

The poster has every right to chose - right up until the point you realise that non-scientists don’t understand anything about the products used in the process of designing a vaccine let alone the production of one. So to get ‘moral high ground’ on this without understanding the context is mind boggling to me.

It’s really like a vegan refusing to eat vegetables because the land had animal manure used on it. Maybe that’s a thing.