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New Pfizer data - 98.9% effective at preventing death

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doireallyneedaname · 20/02/2021 19:38

Fabulous!

New Pfizer data - 98.9% effective at preventing death
OP posts:
zzizzer · 21/02/2021 07:30

I cannot believe that someone has read this and whinged that its made them feel bad.

SunshiningBetty · 21/02/2021 07:38

Well I for one am glad i chose the Pfizer now. It’s amazing! I will feel so much happier being forced to send my children to school in a few weeks now I feel more protected, particularly my chance of catching it if they bring it home. It’s just a shame the government didn’t think teachers deserved the same protection.

Wherediditgo · 21/02/2021 07:46

@InkyWinky

Thanks for making those of us who had the AstraZeneca, feel as if we had the inferior vaccine! Envy
Don’t be ridiculous That’s not remotely what the op said
YouHadMeAtWoof · 21/02/2021 07:48

@InkyWinky

Thanks for making those of us who had the AstraZeneca, feel as if we had the inferior vaccine! Envy
I’m going to presume that this is a joke and that no one goes through life being so incredibly negative and miserable. Christ I think it’s the most depressing statement I’ve read in a long time.
LizzieSiddal · 21/02/2021 07:57

Amazing, dh and I had ours yesterday. Have a very sore arm this morning but all that is doing is reminding me how lucky I am to have had it and I keep welling up.Grin

The only thing which worried me was the 12 week wait. I know the vaccine wasn’t approved for that long a wait but those figures are so amazing after one dose there’s no need to worry!

WetJan · 21/02/2021 08:01

@YouHadMeAtWoof Ha! Your comment made me think of the Father Ted episode where they buy Mrs Doyle a tea making machine... "maybe I like the misery!"

Alone97 · 21/02/2021 09:09

I had the Pfizer yesterday and have the next one in ten weeks.
I was just happy to have the vaccine and know I will be ok to look after my disabled children if I got covid.
Good news all round though, and atm the only side effect I have is a very sore arm which like another poster has said is a small price to pay.

DumplingsAndStew · 21/02/2021 09:11

@InkyWinky

Thanks for making those of us who had the AstraZeneca, feel as if we had the inferior vaccine! Envy
Well thanks for making me feel terrible with your inferior vaccine, as I've not had one at all Envy
DumplingsAndStew · 21/02/2021 09:12

That's great news if that figure is accurate. Do we know if they are studying whether vaccinated people can still be carriers of the virus?

feathermucker · 21/02/2021 09:19

@InkyWinky

Thanks for making those of us who had the AstraZeneca, feel as if we had the inferior vaccine! Envy
It's literally stating research information. How you can take this personally is completely beyond me 🤔
fairislecable · 21/02/2021 09:39

Perhaps this little snippet from the BBC website gives another perspective:

However when Pfizer's summary trial data was recently released by the US Food and Drug Administration it turned out that over 3,000 suspected but not confirmed cases of Covid were not included in the heavily publicised press releases, so the vaccine may well be less effective than the original 95% claim.

As long as the vaccines work I don’t care.

brimfuller · 21/02/2021 09:59

This is brilliant news about the Pfizer vaccine, and I wouldn't have written the negative post about the comparison. However, I think there is a concern that the Oxford vaccine is starting to seem like the second best option (primarily because it is less effective over all, isn't it, and probably even less so with the SA variant)? It has also been in the media a lot with regards efficacy concerns etc. I wish it didn't seem that way.

I think that people will start to feel the way the PP does as more people are vaccinated. However, at the minute, as @DumplingsAndStew suggests, many people are just pleased to be vaccinated at all.

MoirasRoses · 21/02/2021 10:03

FFS. It’s not a bloody competition between vaccines. Why on earth can’t people be happy, it unbelievably infuriating. One vaccine publishes excellent results & we instantly bash the other that HASN'T YET RELEASED ANY. It doesn’t mean it won’t be as effective. Why are people such fucking idiots.

zzizzer · 21/02/2021 10:06

Yes - any mass lowering of rates is good, and let's face it, its going to be at least a yearly jab from now on. We'll have our doses of various vaccines over the years.

TheKeatingFive · 21/02/2021 10:11

That’s brilliant.

If it makes those getting AZ feel any better, my understanding is that there wasn’t a single hospitalisation among those who had the vaccine in trials.

That’s plenty good enough for me.

x2boys · 21/02/2021 10:54

Excellent news both DH and I had the Pfizer injection yesterday ,no side affects so far🤞

PinkSparklyPussyCat · 21/02/2021 11:30

@MoirasRoses

FFS. It’s not a bloody competition between vaccines. Why on earth can’t people be happy, it unbelievably infuriating. One vaccine publishes excellent results & we instantly bash the other that HASN'T YET RELEASED ANY. It doesn’t mean it won’t be as effective. Why are people such fucking idiots.
This. Unfortunately there seems to be a lot of AZ bashing. If a vaccine reduces the severity of covid to a mild illness then that's positive as far as I'm concerned.
Donoteatthekittens · 21/02/2021 11:33

Preventing death from Covid. Not death generally. 🤪

Fgs1 · 21/02/2021 11:39

@InkyWinky

Thanks for making those of us who had the AstraZeneca, feel as if we had the inferior vaccine! Envy
Erm what?! This is simply jsut reporting back as Israel has used one vaccine type and so can demonstrate real world effectiveness... soon it will likely be the UK demonstrating similar effectiveness with the AZ vaccine.

Do you know how many people are reading this with no vaccine and zero protection right now?

Thimbleberries · 21/02/2021 13:04

I'm surprised it's being reported as high as that. There seem to be a lot of reports around - on here for example, or in the media - of all the various people that have had one dose of Pfizer and have seen contracted Covid several weeks later (i.e., after it's had time to take effect). I wonder whether we are just seeing those very rare cases being the ones that are reporting it, or whether real world efficiency is different here, or if those were all in HCP who had much greater potential exposure than the people in the study, or what.

Still good news though. Hopefully more doses will be available soon, and Moderna too. And the boosters sound quite straightforward to do for the AZ ones, so those might be quick off the mark with adjustments for the variants

Reallybadidea · 21/02/2021 13:11

@InkyWinky this video might make you feel better mobile.twitter.com/JoshBerryComedy/status/1346788740610592768

ErrolTheDragon · 21/02/2021 14:37

@Thimbleberries

I'm surprised it's being reported as high as that. There seem to be a lot of reports around - on here for example, or in the media - of all the various people that have had one dose of Pfizer and have seen contracted Covid several weeks later (i.e., after it's had time to take effect). I wonder whether we are just seeing those very rare cases being the ones that are reporting it, or whether real world efficiency is different here, or if those were all in HCP who had much greater potential exposure than the people in the study, or what.

Still good news though. Hopefully more doses will be available soon, and Moderna too. And the boosters sound quite straightforward to do for the AZ ones, so those might be quick off the mark with adjustments for the variants

Those are the data for after the second dose, so the cases you're hearing about here aren't comparable. It would as others have said be interesting to see Israeli data after the first dose but with the closer schedule maybe there's not that many in the gap anyway.
Thimbleberries · 21/02/2021 15:30

oh I see, that makes sense. I thought some of the data was from 4 weeks after the first dose/1 week after the second, at which point they assumed that the booster effect hadn't kicked in yet. I have heard various figures for that data, anywhere from 33% to 95%, so have no idea which to believe! (haven't seen the actual studies)

Thimbleberries · 21/02/2021 15:31

oh I can see the table better now; the first column is the 1 week after dose 2 figures, and they are still very high, higher that I'd expected from the reports here/elsewhere. I hope they are right - that would be great.

PinkTonic · 21/02/2021 15:43

@Thimbleberries

I'm surprised it's being reported as high as that. There seem to be a lot of reports around - on here for example, or in the media - of all the various people that have had one dose of Pfizer and have seen contracted Covid several weeks later (i.e., after it's had time to take effect). I wonder whether we are just seeing those very rare cases being the ones that are reporting it, or whether real world efficiency is different here, or if those were all in HCP who had much greater potential exposure than the people in the study, or what.

Still good news though. Hopefully more doses will be available soon, and Moderna too. And the boosters sound quite straightforward to do for the AZ ones, so those might be quick off the mark with adjustments for the variants

I haven’t seen any reports which actually said that when you actually read the details, although I have seen several reports and posts on here which implied it, contrary to the facts.