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honkytonkheroe · 2021-02-16T07:46:12+00:00

Hi, I'm just interested, does anyone know people who has been invited for the vaccine but they do not fit the criteria for current vaccinations? Yesterday my brother in law (53 with no health conditions and not working for NHS, social care etc) got invited and also my husband's friend (51, no health conditions and again not with a job that would attract it) was invited. Neither see the logic. Anyone else?

pastabest · 16/02/2021 08:51

Some areas are just at the stage where they have been able to move on to the over 50s. Which is great.

There's a huge push currently to get the first vaccine to as many of the over 50s, anyone who is clinically vulnerable and people in health and social care before groups 1- 6 start coming back into they system again for their second jab. Things are possibly going to slow down a bit for the general population when that happens in the next few weeks so the more people you can get done while the first lot are waiting their 12 weeks the better.

Oilyvoir · 16/02/2021 08:53

Yes. Me. I'm 55no underlying health conditions, no need to visit the gp for a long time. I;m a teacher but pretty sure my gp doesn't know that. Got called last week. My lodger who is 38 and asthmatic is getting his tomorrow. We are West London, low take up - I think they are sailing through. When I got mine everyone else looked like they were 50's and early 60's rather than 65+

OutingMyself · 16/02/2021 08:55

My area still has people in their 80s not vaccinated :(

Wowwellokthen · 16/02/2021 08:57

The 2 (unrelated) people who I know who been called for vaccinations.... In their 40s. Both said they didn't know why they were called but found out from go surgery that as they had been admitted to hospital at sometime in their distant past which must have flagged them up. One had a seizure when they were in their early 20s. I'm not sure about the other one but it was not something serious or ongoing.
So, many it's the same in these other cases?

ValpolicellaPrimitivo · 16/02/2021 08:58

My DM is 62 and no health issues is having hers tomorrow, she only got the text yesterday. My Dad is a month younger than her and hasn't heard yet. Oxfordshire.

SleepingStandingUp · 16/02/2021 08:58

@likeamillpond

Are they both fat? I believe people who are really fat are getting called in to be vacinated along with vulnerable people and before the underc 65s. Not sure how much truth is in this.

Or if obesity is a category 6 criteria so a BMI over 40

XiCi · 16/02/2021 08:59

I think I can honestly say that my brother in law who I have known since I was 14 and my husband's close friend, both who told us they had an invite and were very surprised about it (when they could have kept it to themselves) are not hiding secret medical conditions
No, you can't say. You'd be surprised what you don't know about people and what they want to keep private or protect people from for all sorts of reasons. Its really none of your business.

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honkytonkheroe · 16/02/2021 09:03

@XiCi

I think I can honestly say that my brother in law who I have known since I was 14 and my husband's close friend, both who told us they had an invite and were very surprised about it (when they could have kept it to themselves) are not hiding secret medical conditions No, you can't say. You'd be surprised what you don't know about people and what they want to keep private or protect people from for all sorts of reasons. Its really none of your business.

There's always one.

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SleepingStandingUp · 16/02/2021 09:04

@XiCi

I think I can honestly say that my brother in law who I have known since I was 14 and my husband's close friend, both who told us they had an invite and were very surprised about it (when they could have kept it to themselves) are not hiding secret medical conditions No, you can't say. You'd be surprised what you don't know about people and what they want to keep private or protect people from for all sorts of reasons. Its really none of your business.

It sounds like these men have openly discussed their confusion with op / other people. It seems unlikely they're doing this and telling people they're having the vaccine and are very confused, oh op why do you think I got it?? if they know they've got complex medical needs they're keeping secret!

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honkytonkheroe · 16/02/2021 09:06

Neither are v over weight. One not at all and the other slightly in a middle aged man kind of way! Not excessively for sure.

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MrsFrisbyMouse · 16/02/2021 09:09

Lists are being generated by computers. I imagine the algorithms look for key words - trying to check that number of people manually just isn't possible. There will be some errors. But its an opportunity cosy, and doesn't matter in terms of overall numbers.

Some areas have already called all over 60's and vunerable and are now moving on to the over 50's.

It is a truly amazing accomplishment by the NHS. I was volunteerimg in a vaccination centre at the weekend, and it is pretty slick and efficient - so not surprised at how fast we are getting through the numbers.

We now really need to focus on picking up the vaccine hesitancy and populations that find vaccinations trickier (like the learning disabled).

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honkytonkheroe · 16/02/2021 09:11

I think the answer is, as people have pointed out, is that this vulnerable category is pulling things from medical records that may not seem relevant but can put you in that category. Not knowing how it worked, it hadn't occurred to us as we just took the lettering of the vulnerable list literally. We were just trying to make some sense of it. I'd like to think our area was moving on faster and that was why but I'm not sure that's the case, knowing many older people who haven't been invited. It's good to know we're moving on with the vaccines anyway.

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honkytonkheroe · 16/02/2021 09:15

@MrsFrisbyMouse

Lists are being generated by computers. I imagine the algorithms look for key words - trying to check that number of people manually just isn't possible. There will be some errors. But its an opportunity cosy, and doesn't matter in terms of overall numbers.

Some areas have already called all over 60's and vunerable and are now moving on to the over 50's.

It is a truly amazing accomplishment by the NHS. I was volunteerimg in a vaccination centre at the weekend, and it is pretty slick and efficient - so not surprised at how fast we are getting through the numbers.

We now really need to focus on picking up the vaccine hesitancy and populations that find vaccinations trickier (like the learning disabled).

Yes it's amazing how quickly the NHS are vaccinating people. I've heard nothing but praise for the organisation of the vaccine sites. It must be great to be part of it. I was quite envious of the woman who phoned me from the doctors surgery to invite me for my vaccination too. She sounded so pleased with herself that I thought that I thought it must be such a feel good job!

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clopper · 16/02/2021 09:29

I dont think it really matters, all the adult population will have it in the end so I guess it doesnt really matter what order. My DH just got his, too young Joe the specified age group but he is a bit overweight and has blood pressure medication so maybe he is on some sort of list. I'd rather anyone have them than the bin

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honkytonkheroe · 16/02/2021 09:38

@clopper

I dont think it really matters, all the adult population will have it in the end so I guess it doesnt really matter what order. My DH just got his, too young Joe the specified age group but he is a bit overweight and has blood pressure medication so maybe he is on some sort of list. I'd rather anyone have them than the bin

Absolutely. We were surprised and assumed it was a mistake but pleased it would be another couple done.

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SleepingStandingUp · 16/02/2021 09:55

You said there's still lots of enemy who haven't been invited. If they're over 70 they can call and book themselves in now without an invite

Ikeatears · 16/02/2021 10:05

@honkytonkheroe you have no idea if they have medical conditions. I have a medical condition that only dh knows about. He wouldn't disclose it to anyone because he respects my privacy.
My closest friends and family would say that I don't have medical conditions that qualify me for group 6. They would be wrong. I have my vaccine tomorrow and have told no one except dh because I don't want to feel I have to explain myself.

user1493494961 · 16/02/2021 10:14

It doesn't really matter now does it, if groups 1-4 have all been invited. There are bound to be some anomalies, no system is perfect, and the people you speak of are both over 50.

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honkytonkheroe · 16/02/2021 10:14

[quote Ikeatears]@honkytonkheroe you have no idea if they have medical conditions. I have a medical condition that only dh knows about. He wouldn't disclose it to anyone because he respects my privacy.
My closest friends and family would say that I don't have medical conditions that qualify me for group 6. They would be wrong. I have my vaccine tomorrow and have told no one except dh because I don't want to feel I have to explain myself. [/quote]
But then presumably you are not making a point of saying to friends and family that you have been invited but you don't know why? Of course that always could be a possibility but in our particular circumstances it seems more likely that either the tests he had done some months ago got him bumped up. Personally I don't find medical conditions to be a big secret and have had one since my early 20s and I'm not secretive about it.

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honkytonkheroe · 16/02/2021 10:37

@user1493494961

It doesn't really matter now does it, if groups 1-4 have all been invited. There are bound to be some anomalies, no system is perfect, and the people you speak of are both over 50.

Of course it doesn't matter.

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SleepingStandingUp · 16/02/2021 11:15

[quote Ikeatears]@honkytonkheroe you have no idea if they have medical conditions. I have a medical condition that only dh knows about. He wouldn't disclose it to anyone because he respects my privacy.
My closest friends and family would say that I don't have medical conditions that qualify me for group 6. They would be wrong. I have my vaccine tomorrow and have told no one except dh because I don't want to feel I have to explain myself. [/quote]
But that's the point, you're not messaging your friends saying oh I've got a jab tomorrow but I don't know why, do you know why? Doing that when you know it's because you've got X but don't want to tell anyone you've got X would be quite weird.

annlee3817 · 16/02/2021 13:25

My mum had hers yesterday, she's 62 and my dad who is 64 hasn't received an invite, same GP. My Mum asked and they said the is listed as having an underlying condition but didn't have further details to say what. She had cancer in her 30's, so we assumed it was linked to that 🤷

JaninaDuszejko · 16/02/2021 13:39

My BIL is in his early 50s and has just been invited. I just assumed he'd reached that age group now in his area. We're vaccinating over 3M people a week at the moment and each age bracket is about 3M. The vaccination programne is the one thing we've done really well, the decisions at the beginning to buy all the different vaccines, the support put in place for the vaccine manufacture in this country, and the power of the NHS to organise the vaccination campaign.

Ecdysis · 16/02/2021 13:45

@honkytonkheroe

My husband's friend has no health conditions but he was hospitalised with pleurisy once and has had pneumonia at least once. I wondered if that factored in to it. However, that also doesn't for the priority order. Or perhaps the priority is just in its simplest form for the public and it's more detailed for medics.

So he has got medical issues. I have been offered one, even my husband doesn't know the reason I'm eligible. I've told people but act surprised.

Anniegetyourgun · 16/02/2021 13:57

They're on to 65+ in my area I believe. DSis is under 60 and got the invitation recently because she used to have an underlying condition that hasn't bothered her for years, that somehow qualifies her as CEV. (She did query this with the GP last year.) I'm over 60 but only got done because I was on the list for leftovers that would otherwise go to waste. Neither of us were inclined to turn down the offer. After all, every jab is a little less COVID around for all of us to catch.

Adding my thanks and plaudits to the NHS and other bodies (local authorities, charities etc) who are supporting them in the programme.