When schools reopen, will you still stay at home ?

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When schools reopen, it will be tempting to think that if the kids are in a room with 30 kids all day that you might as well see some friends because what difference will it make. Even harder to resist allowing your kids to see friends after school and on weekends. Who will be able to resist the temptation?

No - when schools reopen we will recognise that DS mixing in school increases our risk of becoming part of a transmission chain so we will double down on efforts to reduce transmission risk - by us or to us - in other aspects of life.

DH just misses the age cut off for group 9 and he has vulnerabilities but not badly enough for group 6 so neither of us will get a vaccine any time soon - especially if it's done by occupation instead of age below group 9. He is exactly the sort of overweight middle aged bloke currently filling up covid wards. So we are motivated to be careful. However, I hope we would do the same if we were young, fit and felt personally invincible.

Saying, sod it, my kids are mixing in school so there's no point keeping to any restrictions any more, is like saying, sod it, I ate a chocolate Hobnob so I'm ditching the damned joyless diet.

Last term at DS's school parents were taking their masks off once past the gate and hanging round outside the school and in the park for ages chatting while the kids played. Some were going to each other's houses. Logic: our kids will pass it on if one of them has it and we'll get it from them anyway, so might as well see our mum friends. I think that is nonsense. A parent got covid last term, his child was therefore off self isolating as a contact before she had chance to become infectious, no other cases developed in DS's class. If that parent had been involved in the school gate chatting (and luckily they weren't), they could have passed it direct to other parents. It IS still worth following the rules.

@RedskyBynight

"Lateral flow rapid Covid tests pick up 90% of cases, study finds - Pulse Today" www.pulsetoday.co.uk/news/coronavirus/lateral-flow-rapid-covid-tests-pick-up-90-of-cases-study-finds/

Saying, sod it, my kids are mixing in school so there's no point keeping to any restrictions any more, is like saying, sod it, I ate a chocolate Hobnob so I'm ditching the damned joyless diet.

The story of my life!

I hope people aren’t thinking this.
They obviously are though, in their bucket loads.

I'm already in school as usual with my pupils (SEN teacher). So "opening" schools will make zero difference to the fact that I go nowhere else and see no-one else. sigh

I will be able to ‘resist the temptation’ because I know it’s better to reduce contacts as much as possible because i’m not stupid. I will also be working from home, making up for lost time!

I would also be happy if they reduced the number of contacts they actually have in schools by having a rota of some sort but cloth ears Johnson and Gavlar seem to not even be considering that (again). This would seem a solution towards re-opening schools to all (& keeping them open)

Yes I’ll be mixing

Mine are mixing now as they meet friends daily

As do I

It’ll air no difference if at school or not

My ds is on Instagram and I’ve seen the live streams - kids meeting and having sleepovers is common now

You’re in denial if you think it’s not happening

If schools add 0.4 to R, and we are currently between 0.7 and 1.0 R in various parts of the country, then something else has to give for schools to go back properly. Once the kids go back, everyone else still needs to stay at home. If we were going back now, obviously. I assume they are hoping R will be lower by 8th March or whenever after that.

All parents are doing that, are they?
No one I know is.
There are a small proportion of people breaking the rules. Some are parents, some aren’t

I didn’t bring up that only parents are doing it. You did 😂

Some are, some aren’t. Those that aren’t are the same as everyone else who aren’t. Those that are obviously have to regard for others

My DC are breaking the rules by meeting friends in the park. I and DH are following the rules carefully on the other hand. I can't bring myself to stop DC. Curiously, maybe once they are back at school I will feel ok stopping them from seeing friends out of school.

If schools add 0.4 to R, and we are currently between 0.7 and 1.0 R in various parts of the country, then something else has to give for schools to go back properly

There will be another 10m people immunised between now and then at this rate. That'll help.

Depends on the rules - in Scotland under 12s have not been stopped from going to out to play even in lockdown and aren't required to socially distance.

So no change there

[quote FourTeaFallOut]@RedskyBynight

"Lateral flow rapid Covid tests pick up 90% of cases, study finds - Pulse Today" www.pulsetoday.co.uk/news/coronavirus/lateral-flow-rapid-covid-tests-pick-up-90-of-cases-study-finds/[/quote]
Effectiveness is significantly reduced when not used by a trained professional. www.bmj.com/content/372/bmj.n287

Secondary school pupils are fairly likely not to be doing the tests properly.

"Covid-19: How the UK is using lateral flow tests in the pandemic | The BMJ" www.bmj.com/content/372/bmj.n287

"A recent evaluation of data from a quarter of million people who had participated in the NHS Test and Trace programme, available as a preprint, supports this.5 The evaluation, by the University of Oxford and Public Health England, used NHS Test and Trace data to ascertain whether lateral flow tests were sufficient to detect the most infectious cases. It found that only six in 100 contacts of people with cases of infection went on to get infected themselves, and its modelling predicted that lateral flow tests would detect most of the people who would otherwise go on to infect someone else. This modelling indicated that the tests would detect up to 90% of the infections that individuals passed on"

Just your average Joe blogg testing finds 9/10 of those cases likely to transmit.

@pinkhappy

When schools reopen, it will be tempting to think that if the kids are in a room with 30 kids all day that you might as well see some friends because what difference will it make. Even harder to resist allowing your kids to see friends after school and on weekends. Who will be able to resist the temptation?

If you go hand gliding does it make it a good idea to cross the M25 on foot?

Your DC being at school has zero to do eith the risk of you getting from a friend if you meet up with them.

Your DC being at school doesn't stop you or him
Getting from the kids mother if you meet at the park or in their house.

They are all completely separate risks.

No, I won’t be socialising with friends.

@SpringtimeBluebells

2 teachers tested positive last week in secondary school... they tested all the students that were in and not one tested positive.... they didn't get it from the students.... most teachers are working from home and some are obviously mixing a bit more ....or they got it whilst out walking

So perhaps best not to mix in social groups just yet?

Give the vaccine roll out a bit more time to reach more people...? it makes sense

My DP, his colleagues and the students all tested negative just before they developed symptoms as part of the twice weekly testing and continued testing negative until the symptoms appeared. If they were tested with the LFT then the negative result means Jack shit. DP tested negative less than 24 hours before he couldn't get out of bed.

@SonnetForSpring

This must be a baiting thread.

I don't know, there are clearly people who do think like this.

They really need to teach risk assessments to kids at school & the parents!

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All I want is for schools to reopen. I would (and have) put up with everything else. I haven’t been or done anything but work (mainly from home) since last March. (And yet I still caught Covid!).
I do think, in general, once people have their children in school it does change their mindset and they’re a lot more laidback about rules (or at least that’s what it looks like from my friends), but no, I personally will not be any less cautious as numbers will only rise again and we’ll be right back to square one again. My kids have no contact with other kids (other than online) so return to school would be such a relief for me and them.

It depends what the rules are. If we are not permitted to then no. However much I am fed up with it all.

The co director of the company I work for told me earlier this week, we as in the company will probably be wfh for rest of this year.

If so I will need to invest in a better chair as using a very old ladder back which is very uncomfortable all day. (when I say 'old the chair is probably 120-150 years old, not at all valuable and the rush seat leaves a lot to be desired as needs re doing but has sentimental value).

It sounds like schools will open but not much else to start with.

@Pastanred

Yes I’ll be mixing

Mine are mixing now as they meet friends daily

As do I

It’ll air no difference if at school or not

My ds is on Instagram and I’ve seen the live streams - kids meeting and having sleepovers is common now

You’re in denial if you think it’s not happening

Why are you and your friends doing this?

Do you not care about people dying/suffering from
Long Covid?

What makes you so special?

If my dc are getting social interactions with friends in school im more than happy with that I can carry on with the Saturday night girls zoom nights for longer, part of me prefers the online socialising for now at least its acceptable to be wearing pj's unlike a night out in the pub

@WitchesBritchesPumpkinPants
You can get "long" whatever after any virus. It's nothing special or worth continuing this misery for

Yeah, I get long cold and long flu. It's the joy of having faulty lungs. Previously it was called tough luck - one of those things.