How much longer are we meant to do this?

[Creamteaincornwall]

I have so many friends who are at the end of their tether. Some suicidal, many almost.
I attend a zoom support group for my mental health and emotional well being as I have BPD and ASD. The last few weeks have been horrendous, every person is at the lowest they’ve been since the beginning of all this.
The amount of posts I’ve read on various Facebook groups of people saying they don’t want to get up in the morning anymore, they just stay in bed. Surely this isn’t doing anyone any good physically or mentally?
Surely this will put most in a weaker position if they were to catch covid?

How much more are we all suppose to take of this? With no end in sight?

Well said @Shelovesamystery

We can't keep stopping children from accessing schools for 1/3 of the year at a time.
Why? There was a time when they said, we can't keep kids in classrooms all day. And the kids were forced into classrooms and learnt to deal with it. Now we think its normal just because that's the way we were brought up. As with all educational experiences, the successful succeed and the failures fail. It is the same with the current system.

And how to expect the NHS to cope when there is no money to fund it as everyone had lost their jobs !!
I don't. We will need to cut all non-essential care. The NHS will have to revert to critical care only.

I often spend most of the day in bed. Cant face getting up and dressed just to sit in a cold house ( heating system is rubbish) seeing no one other than via Zoom. I have no motivation and no desire to find it any more. I really feel that I just no longer care any more.

@speaksofty

I have penciled in three weeks to the end of my lockdown, once the schools are back I will be inviting my friends for firepit drinks and dinner and I am getting my life back.

If the gov agrees with me, great, if not - well thats too bad.
I am not staying in this living hell any longer once the vulnerable are vaccinated and the hospital admissions are steady. The hospitals are already past the worst now, and by next week the vaccination of 15 million of the most vulnerable will be complete. I will give it to March and thats it for us.

It is one of the reasons I woke up feeling much happier than I have done in ages - this is nearly over.

If the gov agrees with me, great, if not - well thats too bad. So are you saying you are one of the families who are happy to host private get togethers in lockdown? I for one hope neighbours who have illegal parties going on next door call the police.

I don't understand anyone who has an issue with what they believe to be misleading information from the government hiding the fact that this is just going on and on.

I am 40+ and whoever was in government has provided misleading information to the public to slew the narrative as far back as I can remember. I am not so stupid as to believe that it is possible to elect a government that all of a sudden as if by magic does anything different. It is politics. They are doing their job. And if we believe them, we are the fools and they are doing their jobs well.

@speaksofty

I have penciled in three weeks to the end of my lockdown, once the schools are back I will be inviting my friends for firepit drinks and dinner and I am getting my life back.

If the gov agrees with me, great, if not - well thats too bad.
I am not staying in this living hell any longer once the vulnerable are vaccinated and the hospital admissions are steady. The hospitals are already past the worst now, and by next week the vaccination of 15 million of the most vulnerable will be complete. I will give it to March and thats it for us.

It is one of the reasons I woke up feeling much happier than I have done in ages - this is nearly over.

I take it you’ve not had Covid then or you wouldn’t post such rubbish! Living hell ?

@speaksofty totally agree. You've certainly done your part along with many others, putting your life on hold for a year. What more do they want?

elli I am saying that from March I will be seeing my friends in the garden probably a rule of six, so not huge parties and yes I will be ending my own lockdown.

If you want to continue with self imposed lockdown you can, but once the vulnerable are vaccinated that is it for me.

We don't have any close neighbours but if we did I would probably invite them along. No one is going to 'get covid' stood outside and I have had enough of this. March is the end of lockdown for us.

I have followed the lockdown to the letter, and would not dream of putting anyone at risk which is why we will all be outside, but quite frankly I am past caring, as are all of my friends. We are ready for this to end.

I am saying that from March I will be seeing my friends in the garden probably a rule of six, so not huge parties and yes I will be ending my own lockdown

Me too.

@Radio4Rocks

What makes it worse is the false hopes given. Johnson pretending it would be normalise by September why we are where we are now.

It won't be as it was for a long time and they should be honest about it. Yes it is awful but there is no alternative. Slow relaxation will happen but if it happens too soon we'll be right back here. I worry that Johnson is stupid enough to listen to his donors and backbenchers rather than the people who know what they are talking about.

For an Oxford graduate he isn't very bright. Maybe the scientists should talk to him in Latin.

Johnson is the type of person who only wants to tell people what they want to hear and to be the good guy delivering good news. He's the Disney Dad.

He's a good time Prime Minister. A disaster in a pandemic.

Speaksoftly, many have already ended their own lockdown.
There won't be protests in this country, there'll be people quietly getting on with things.

@soundofsilence1

Lots of people are suicidal. In my small village 2 people I know of have committed suicide in the last 3 months. One drowned herself in the local lake and one hung herself. Prior to this year I have not known of any in our local area and these are just the succesful ones, not the attempts that you don't hear of.

I also know of 4 and 2 were friend

@LucilleTheVampireBat

I am saying that from March I will be seeing my friends in the garden probably a rule of six, so not huge parties and yes I will be ending my own lockdown

Me too.

From March/Easter time they'll no longer be able to rely on people's goodwill with the current rules. Not if the cases, hospitalisations and deaths are way down which they should be by then.

Ultimately though people are restricted by what they're able to do. You can't go to a pub, a restaurant, a gym, a salon, a clothes shop, a cinema, a nightclub, a gig, a sports match if they're all closed off. But more people will go and visit friends and family and household mix.

@ElliFAntspoo

And how to expect the NHS to cope when there is no money to fund it as everyone had lost their jobs !! I don't. We will need to cut all non-essential care. The NHS will have to revert to critical care only.

That won't happen it really won't

maze Genuinely interested, the vulnerable will all be vaccinated by the end of this week. The infection rate and hospital admission rates are plummeting.

Why on earth would you want to continue with the lockdown? For what possible reason?

We are not going to get to zero risk, that is not an option. So we are in a great place come spring to start living again. I am not carrying on with this idea that we have to vaccinate the world before we go out. It is utterly ridiculous.

We are not donkeys being led by SAGE. We are perfectly capable of critical thinking, reading the stats and seeing for ourselves that the worst of this has passed and it is now safe to resume some form of life!

British anti-Lockdown protest chant:

What do we want? Meetings of three to six people between the summer house and the geranium planter!
When do we want it? Twenty one days from now, unless Angela next door can't make it in which case we'll wait for Day 22. At 2.30 in time for some cups of tea.

Do those saying there’s an end in sight think that there will be some normality by Easter?

Of course there will. Look at how case numbers and deaths are dropping significantly, whilst the numbers of those getting vaccinated are rising fast.

Honestly, hang in there and ignore the doomsters on MN.

I take it you’ve not had Covid then or you wouldn’t post such rubbish

Eh?

kokeshi Oh yes! The MN anti lockdown protest starts here. Could we add a dash of gin or weed killer depending on the character of your neighbours to the occasion possibly?!

Until we've cured mortality by the looks of things.
Or until more people start realising that people get ill and everyone dies. Or until people start realising that we can only fund the NHS through taxation, that we can only fund education through taxation, that we can only fund the justice system and civil society through taxation, because there will come a point where we can't simply keep borrowing. Or until people realise that there are many illnesses and causes of death other than Covid.

I completely agree buzz it is not the British way to make a fuss, we don't need Paris style yellow vests to simply make a few changes here or there.

The government are on borrowed time and I am sure they are fully aware of it.

And no I haven't had covid, and could not care less about covid personally. I am not remotely worried about catching the virus, and fully expect to at some point. I am fit (ish) and healthy (ish). I am following the lockdown rules purely for the safety and wellbeing of others.

@speaksofty

maze Genuinely interested, the vulnerable will all be vaccinated by the end of this week. The infection rate and hospital admission rates are plummeting.

Why on earth would you want to continue with the lockdown? For what possible reason?

We are not going to get to zero risk, that is not an option. So we are in a great place come spring to start living again. I am not carrying on with this idea that we have to vaccinate the world before we go out. It is utterly ridiculous.

We are not donkeys being led by SAGE. We are perfectly capable of critical thinking, reading the stats and seeing for ourselves that the worst of this has passed and it is now safe to resume some form of life!

Until they have vaccinated groups 1 to 9 they will have not vaccinated all thr vulnerable Only up to group 4 in most areas.