Longer school days to make up for lost learning

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Source: Various newspapers, give it a Google (admittedly with a right wing lean)

Apparently one of the options being considered, nothing set in stone of course but for the purposes of discussion...

AIBU to feel both joy and sadness at the prospect of this (joy for me so I can claw back work hours, joy for children so they can claw back some school time but sadness for my teacher friends and all teachers who will need to add more hours to already heavy workload).

Not interested or not well funded enough? Two different things .

Never in a million years would that happen in a state school. They are just not that interested.

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Glad you got there quick @HercwasanEnemyofEducation

laidbacklife

I quote again what I said to a previous poster

"Your children have a warm bed, clothes, food, a parent who is well paid and engaged. They have a safe roof above their heads. They have toys, and I suspect that you as their parent talk to them and read to them. They are not physically or emotionally abused or neglected. They are not being radicalised. They are not young carers, and are not responsible for their siblings, parent or elderly relatives. They do not have complex and severe SEN. They do not have eating disorders. they do not live with those who suffer from substance addiction. They do not come from marginalised groups within our society, such as Roma Travellers.

Please excuse me if I work my additional hours for those children who DO face these additional challenges."

As your private school will not have s the national average percentage of children living in poverty, nor the national average number of children with SEN, nor the national average number of children who are abused or from marginalised groups, then it is no wonder that the staff have more time to devote to those children from stable and privileged background who attend it.

Teaching workload in a state school is an iceberg - by far the largest proportion of the workload is related to things that most people never see, and in some schools simply doesn't exist.

@laidbacklife

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You're right it won't happen, but it will be down to lack of organisation and funding by the government. See my post on page 29 about how it can be done, and is happening when the political will is there, and the money provided.

And fuck your sneering at UK teachers.

sherrystrull Don't rise, she's being deliberately goady. Her comment has already been removed!

sherry, I have asked for your post to be deleted too, just because it quotes the deleted post.

The level of vileness that some posters will descend to never ceases to amaze me.

laidbacklife
I teach in a highly regarded independent school. Teachers in the sector have worked extremely hard during this pandemic and the teachers in your child’s school would be delighted to know you are pleased with the education provided. In all fairness, I have many friends who work in state schools and they have worked extremely hard too. In addition to working extremely hard on their given job of teaching, they have also provide counselling, organised free school meals, acted as social workers and supervised many, many more ‘key worker’ and vulnerable children than I have had to do. They are not lazy. My life is far easier than theirs as, more or less, I get to concentrate on my online teaching.

Thank you. Sorry my mouth dropped

When are some school staff so reluctant to do that bit extra?

Teachertapp this week: 65% of teachers have spent £10 or more of their own money on something to support the learning of other people's children. Personally I've spent £150 just on tech in order to be able to work effectively from home, and about £60 on books and website memberships for my class. We don't get that money back. That's my 'bit extra' because it makes my life easier. A bit extra that makes my life harder, and gives no obvious benefits to anyone, isn't going to happen. No one would do that.

@laidbacklife
Genuine question, if your DCs are at private school, how can you profess to know with such certainty how state schools would do?

The momma poster is lying about their work pattern. Unless they live on a planet with extra hours in the day.

You can’t work flat out from 7:30am to 6pm and then 8pm - 10 pm and home school your kids. It’s impossible.

Unless you’re furloughed? Or maybe you’re superhuman, and work from 8pm until 7:30am and just don’t bother to sleep at all.

She also has kids aged 1 and 4 so I doubt does much home schooling

Well I think that there are 24 hours in a day and that teachers should be working all of them if they care about the children! There’s no excuse. It’s a vocation, not a job! We should all make sacrifices, there’s a pandemic! My main occupation as CEO of a hedge fund means that I can only volunteer a few hours a week as a brain surgeon but I never hesitate to put others first. Of course teachers are paid for the holidays, and they should therefore make up another zillion hours in the evenings and at weekends to make up for this parasitical leeching off the public purse. They should also set more homework/less homework/teach live lessons/teach prerecorded lessons/use worksheets/avoid worksheets at all costs

Oops inadvertent repetition of “make up” in that blather. But I don’t expect anyone noticed before they fell asleep.

@borntobequiet

Well I think that there are 24 hours in a day and that teachers should be working all of them if they care about the children! There’s no excuse. It’s a vocation, not a job! We should all make sacrifices, there’s a pandemic! My main occupation as CEO of a hedge fund means that I can only volunteer a few hours a week as a brain surgeon but I never hesitate to put others first. Of course teachers are paid for the holidays, and they should therefore make up another zillion hours in the evenings and at weekends to make up for this parasitical leeching off the public purse. They should also set more homework/less homework/teach live lessons/teach prerecorded lessons/use worksheets/avoid worksheets at all costs

😂😂😂😂😂😂

Yes please!! My after school care fees are £££!!

@borntobequiet

Well I think that there are 24 hours in a day and that teachers should be working all of them if they care about the children! There’s no excuse. It’s a vocation, not a job! We should all make sacrifices, there’s a pandemic! My main occupation as CEO of a hedge fund means that I can only volunteer a few hours a week as a brain surgeon but I never hesitate to put others first. Of course teachers are paid for the holidays, and they should therefore make up another zillion hours in the evenings and at weekends to make up for this parasitical leeching off the public purse. They should also set more homework/less homework/teach live lessons/teach prerecorded lessons/use worksheets/avoid worksheets at all costs

Well, of course we have to work 24 hours a day, plus Saturday catch ups! How else will we manage to get every student above average grades, whilst also teaching them civic duties, financial wisdom, emotional health, computer skills, critical thinking skills, how to spot fake news, how to be safe online, how to cook healthy meals, how to stay fit, how to spot and deal with abusive relationships, how to combat addiction and drug issues, how our democracy works, how our judicial system works, how to write letters and CVs... What have I forgotten?

If the govt is funding proper afterschool sports clubs that would be amazing. Increase fitness, help with childcare and socialisation. Not the teachers.

What have I forgotten?

How to achieve a good work/life balance, of course.

Why don't they just move the school year around & start again from where they left off at Christmas? Move new reception start date to January, GCSE, A levels etc to October - November, results end of December, just pay for more people to mark exams. Same for universities.