Longer school days to make up for lost learning

[StitchInLime]

Source: Various newspapers, give it a Google (admittedly with a right wing lean)

Apparently one of the options being considered, nothing set in stone of course but for the purposes of discussion...

AIBU to feel both joy and sadness at the prospect of this (joy for me so I can claw back work hours, joy for children so they can claw back some school time but sadness for my teacher friends and all teachers who will need to add more hours to already heavy workload).

Monkeytennis. I agree, l trained in 94. Started creeping in about 2005/6

Goading that ends with a "compliment" is still goading

@HercwasanEnemyofEducation

They can definitely make space in their agendas

You clearly haven't been listening.

You beat me too it. She's read the comments, but doesn't believe what she's being told.

@chocolateisavegetable

Goading that ends with a "compliment" is still goading

I am giving my true opinions, you can't write it off as goading just because you don't agree with it

You beat me too it. She's read the comments, but doesn't believe what she's being told.
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No, you are right I don't believe there is no time for this. There is always time, it can be made. The fact is some people don't want to and that's up to them but very sad.*

I'll think you'll find I can

Oh look - you just proved my point for me

@chocolateisavegetable

I'll think you'll find I can

You can, but it doesn't make sense. There is nothing wrong with agreeing to disagree

yomommasmomma

Posters are calling it goady because its goady.

it can be both goady and your opinion.

The fact is some people don't want to and that's up to them but very sad.

Are you volunteering your time?

@HercwasanEnemyofEducation

The fact is some people don't want to and that's up to them but very sad.

Are you volunteering your time?

Of course not and if she did it would just be virtue signally on a forum.

These types never volunteer their own time, they just want other people do

There is always time, it can be made

Perhaps you'd like to say this to the doctors and nurses in the Covid wards?

After a full day at school children will be too tired to take on board any more learning.

There is nothing wrong with agreeing to disagree

When everyone except the banned poster is disagreeing with you, though, it's wise to unpick your own thinking and adjust. Thus does the world move on.

@yomommasmomma

You beat me too it. She's read the comments, but doesn't believe what she's being told. * No, you are right I don't believe there is no time for this. There is always time, it can be made. The fact is some people don't want to and that's up to them but very sad.*

No, what's sad is your basic lack of understanding and compassion for what teachers already do day in day out, the long hours they work, how they sacrifice their own family life and the toll the pandemic's had on their mental health. Don't call them superheroes when you clearly don't mean it. It's insulting.

I'm not a hero or a superhero. I don't want to be either of those things.
I'm not a martyr either, and it's not my responsibility to fix all of society's problems.
I do what I can to the best of my ability. But there comes a point where I - like anyone - has to say "enough" and draw the line. Because the more I put everyone else first, the less there is left for me.
There is no one to put me first except me.

I have really enjoyed discussing this.

Using teachers for your personal entertainment is a bit sad. Can recommend Netflix.

Don't know how you meant this to be read. I absolutely agree that all teachers should be working to provide the children with their education. It's their fucking actual paid employment to educate the children. If they cannot be arsed to do it, what gives them the right to expect parents to do it for them?

@ElliFAntspoo

Edited that for you.

It's a bloody stupid idea and won't happen.

Here's one that just might work and is happening in Victorian government schools now:

1. In Victoria the same need for catch-up was identified so an ad went out for interested parties, e.g. retired, n newly-qualfied part-time teachers. They where overwhelmed with responses. This was mid year 2020.

1. Schools identified all students who had underachieved for whatever reason.

1. All support is in-class, no extra lessons.

1. All support is by qualified teachers who are registered.

1. All staff are paid (don't know the rates)

1. All improvements have to be tied to data gathered at identification stage.

Caveat: students don't have support for every lesson.

Obviously improvements are in the future but what characterises this sensible approach is that students don't have an extended day, the support is to do with lesson they are in. They don't lose holidays.

Just as importantly, not for one fat minute did the government approach teachers to do something for nothing.

Unlike the UK who fly kites to raise expectations, with vague talk about volunteers.

@noblegiraffe

I have really enjoyed discussing this.

Using teachers for your personal entertainment is a bit sad. Can recommend Netflix.

For goodness sake Noble - you're a teacher, so you need to do more. Recommend a specific programme for her.

chocolateisavegetable 😂

As I've said upthread, I'm an experienced primary teacher working as a 1:1 SEN HLTA. I love my job passionately.

I earn around £9 and I have three children of my own. Money is very tight indeed.

But I'd rather be a good mum over anything else. I want my kids to do better than I did.

Teaching didn't allow me time to be the mum they needed me to be sadly. Something had to give and I have no regrets.

*per hour!!