Would you call the police...

[spongebob1000]

...on your neighbours?

My neighbours are having friends around atm. They have people around often and don't care about lockdown rules. They never cared really. I am a bit jealous tbh that they are having people around having fun/ drinking, when we can't have friends around due to obvious reasons.

I think there are 6people in the house.

What would you do?

My neighbour does this almost every weekend. She’s a primary school teacher. Bit of a joke really. Despite how noisy she is having full on karoke parties and breaking lockdown I have not called police as I cbf with the aggro. I hope to god lockdown eases in summer. The 2 weeks they go away in summer is best 2 weeks of the year !!

There does need to be careful scrutiny that things go back to normal afterwards There most certainly does.

There does need to be careful scrutiny that things go back to normal afterwards

There definitely does, a lot of taxes we pay today we're temporary measures from a few hundred years ago, even pub opening times were curtailed during the war and were not changed until the late 80s, governments are good at not repealing laws.

I think the clapping phenomenon is similar to why people will give token amounts to charity. I think it is a way for them to assuage themselves of their guilt whilst otherwise contributing to the problem.

The problem is, in a global pandemic (or other emergency) sometimes the rules that we operate a society by need to change.

In the case of this pandemic, it is obviously the case that had we put in place harsher restrictions curtailing freedoms in certain specific areas earlier - e.g. enforced quarantine on arrival into the country early on - which was resisted as I understand it partly because of the desire not to limit the freedom of travellers - we probably wouldn't need the greater restrictions on everyday life of the majority of citizens now.

Look at Australia. Incredibly strict (still) quarantine in a hotel (you're escorted there according to a good friend who's done it) on arrival. But the rest of their life is far more normal than ours. Plus a tiny fraction of our deaths.

The only reason we're in lockdown is because the government failed to control the pandemic in the way many other countries did. Their failure (and in part it was because they didn't want to be seen to be making people give up freedoms early on) has resulted in far harsher restrictions on freedom later on.

Because of what's happened, I think we do need to be careful about resisting laws to control the virus. Because with this virus if we've learned one thing it should be that things can always get worse.

www.independent.co.uk/news/health/nhs-nurses-coronavirus-patients-birmingham-b1797061.html

Yes, careful scrutiny afterwards. But this blanket refusal to want to do things to control the virus? (Tory rightwingers I'm looking at you) No. It's this attitude that has got us here. If we'd followed Australia then spongebob would only be having to worry about whether or not to put in a noise complaint.

If we'd followed Australia then spongebob would only be having to worry about whether or not to put in a noise complaint.

Yep! Restrictions could have been brought in right from when we saw what was happening in Italy. The government had warning and left it far too late to bring in restrictions.

Short-term inconvenience would have been worth it for long-term gain.

Yes I would report, people are being ridiculously selfish

@Chunkymenrock

I would call the police. It's blatantly taking the piss. We're in lockdown, the rules are clear and I'm sick of people thinking they're above them. They absolutely should not be doing this.

This. Without a second thought

Bear in mind it is YOU and most likely YOUR DC who will be picking up the tab for furlough/nightingales etc. People who break the rules are making it worse, longer & more expensive for everyone.

Don't call the police OP. Leave them be.

Having just read this thread I think I can work out why we have 100k dead..

All the 'it's none of your business' comments from people who think they are so fucking holy , busting their guts to show others how 'un nosey' they are... when in fact they seem to have no idea about the social responsibility required towards public health in order to get a grip on a pandemic.

Completely ridiculous. And then to confirm the stupidity there are those who compare reporting neighbours to the police with those who reported Jews to the Nazis . Get a grip. One was a brutal regime where the reporting cost those reported their lives. Reporting Covidiots is to protect the public's life.

@wanderings

What would Dominic Cummings do?

Seriously? 🤦‍♀️ You're STILL using this? FFS 🤦‍♀️

I would have called 111

Besides if you live in a terrace I guess there are plenty of other houses around, it could have been anyone that called right?

Oops not 111 ... 101 the non-emergency police number.

Yes, I am still referring to the Cummings debacle, with no apologies or regrets (after all, the man himself had none) and I shall continue to do so until Saint Boris admits that he should have sacked him on the spot. Neither he nor Saint Boris should be allowed to live it down. The way that politicians and their henchmen seem to be totally immune to consequences of serious misconduct like that, able to wave them aside with "can we please move on" (like an abusive husband) is precisely the reason that politicians are not to be trusted, and why I don't respect them at all. If they're going to blame us for not keeping to the roolz, they can fucking well keep the the roolz themselves, and sack those who don't. Similarly, Tony Blair should be in prison for war crimes; and yet he walks free with his mansions and his millions. With this constant lying and bullshitting that politicians get away with (while ordinary people can be sent to prison for lying about who was driving a car), politicians can whistle and wait for my co-operation. It's a shame that Boris squandered public goodwill on Cummings, when there's a pandemic on.

wanderings youre just rambling now

its nothing like 1984 you sound like a loon

Those saying ‘don’t report’ Turing a blind eye - you are the problem - you are making lock down longer, stop pointing at the rule breakers because you are also colluding with the rule breaking.

Those saying ‘don’t report’ Turing a blind eye - you are the problem - you are making lock down longer, stop pointing at the rule breakers because you are also colluding with the rule breaking.

This isn't a party, it's a gathering of 6, they could very well have a support bubble for a legitimate reason.

Since lockdowns reduce transmission I'm inclined to think that rule breaking doesn't actually effect it too much. People rule break before lockdown and throughout lockdown, yet the virus goes down during lockdown because all those places where multiple strangers are mixing have been closed.

@fluffi

I would have called 111

Besides if you live in a terrace I guess there are plenty of other houses around, it could have been anyone that called right?

I guess yes you are right but i was messaging my other neighbour about it. If someone had called the police would have been either me or my other neighbours. Because we hear the noise coming from their house. Others I'm not sure they would even know what's going on.

Ummmmm, I'd be worried about my car outside etc.

If you act like a d1ck and phone the police (however entitled you feel or the false courage provided by the folks on here), you might find they act like d1cks and walk past your car with keys out or something horrid like that.

last year id have said I'd do nothing but as my arsehole neighbours are currently harrasing us because someone (not me!) reported several of their parties then i will report them for farting the wrong way from now on.

The rest of my neighbours can crack on with their lives.

I would mind my own business...

If they were having a massive rave with hundreds of people that would be another story, but frankly the police have better things to do than to try to check what every family is doing in their own home.

@ElectraBlue

I would mind my own business...

If they were having a massive rave with hundreds of people that would be another story, but frankly the police have better things to do than to try to check what every family is doing in their own home.

Apparently the police has a dedicated team to respond to Covid Breaches so I wouldn't be wasting their time if I was going to report.

But I admit that police having a dedicated team is bonkers. Especially as they are complaining of being understaffed

Jesus this site is filled with petty minded arseholes. Mind your own business.

They are not frightened of this virus. Lots of people are. They are different perspectives. There is no right or wrong. Just different assessments of risk.

Some dipshit lunatics on here are too scared to drive on motorways for instance....but they don't insist nobody else does, at least.

I am genuinely shocked by the number of people who say they would call the police in these circumstances. On your neighbours, for having people round, even though you don't know who the people are and why?

Do people really think that 'this is why we have 100k dead?' Isn't it strange - in that case - that every time there is a proper lockdown, the numbers drop significantly? The reason for this is because society-wide massive changes like significant numbers working from home, most kids off school, and the entire hospitality industry closed is possibly enough to drive a drop in infections even if your neighbour has two friends round?

Government modelling has always been done on the basis that most people following most of the rules most of the time and that this is enough to drive cases down. It is simply impossible - short of a Wuhan-type solution - to prevent people from seeing a friend or family member if they are desperate to. And do you really want to be the person who shops their neighbour to the police because they felt desperate for some human contact?

I am largely pro-lockdown but Iook at it this way: if the government said you had to sleep in different rooms from your husband and never hug your children to prevent transmission, you'd think that was going too far wouldn't you? Well, some people feel like that about being told they can't see their mum, or their sister, or their best friend. And if they are desperate, and willing to take that risk, are you really happy with yourself being the person to call the police on them?