This clap for Captain Tom idea

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I've just seen a lot on social media about this clap for Tom on Thursday at 8, similar to the clap for the NHS.

I'm a bit ambivalent about this. The one organised the other week was a damp squib and nobody got involved. The weather is still dark and cold (it wasn't in the summer when the pots and pans were out for the NHS). However, for a nation in mourning at Tom's passing, perhaps this could help really bring the country together on Thursday.

Haven’t read the whole thread, as can’t be arsed with all the arguments (from both sides).

Rather than clapping, I think a nice idea would maybe a rose named after him. I like the thought of something planted by lots of people - and for the profit to still be donated to NHS charities (which is where his funds raised were for, not directly to the NHS which I think lots of people thought at the beginning).

I’d be happy to have a Captain Sir Tom rose somewhere in my garden 🌹

@Furries

Haven’t read the whole thread, as can’t be arsed with all the arguments (from both sides).

Rather than clapping, I think a nice idea would maybe a rose named after him. I like the thought of something planted by lots of people - and for the profit to still be donated to NHS charities (which is where his funds raised were for, not directly to the NHS which I think lots of people thought at the beginning).

I’d be happy to have a Captain Sir Tom rose somewhere in my garden 🌹

Absolutely lovely idea. Hope someone picks up on this. A lovely way to remember a true gentleman in a quiet way that surely no one could object to

@TheOtherBoelynGirl

"Next time vote for a govt that will fund the NHS, rather than voting for a bunch of robbers, tax dodgers, liars, incompetents, misogynists and racists."

Who should I vote for then? Labour aren't much better these days tbh.

No-one is saying that you have to vote for Labour. There are other political parties.

Although it's clear that almost anyone would be better that the Tories, except ISIS .

Gawd this clapping. What's with clapping at everything now?

@Taikoo

There are no other political parties that have any chance of getting in.

Comparing the Tories to ISIS, even in a joking way, is ludicrous. Go to Syria or Iraq and come back and say the same thing.

@Ilovemypantry your reasons for you being ok with him travelling make a mockery of everything else you supposedly believe about the rules. If you believe lockdown works, masks should be worn, people should make sensible decisions about travelling during a pandemic etc. why don't you have exceptions in those cases too for people that are older, have done charity work, have always wanted to do things? You can't have one rule for some and not for others and then try to defend the rules.

[quote cantmakealifeofit]@Ilovemypantry.

No, but Captain Tom’s family had a huge publicity outlet and absolutely should have declined on principle. And encouraged people to enjoy a low-key Christmas at home with their household.

Can’t have it both ways. Going on the holiday undermined Tom’s work in itself.[/quote]
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He did follow the rules, didn't he? At that time, foreign travel was allowed.

No sorry but I won't.

For fucks sake stop clapping, we've become a nation of trained seals.
I did love Captain Sir Tom though.

I am not in mourning, nor is anyone else I know. He was 100 years old, getting to that age is a privilege denied to most, he had a good life and died surrounded by family. Take covid out the equation, people die of horrible illnesses every fucking day, babies,kids, people who have their whole lives ahead of them. I cant get too upset about a very old man passing away from an illness. Sorry if that makes me heartless.

And I wont be clapping, never have done.

@TheOtherBoelynGirl

He did follow the rules, didn't he? At that time, foreign travel was allowed.

And if someone had posted on here that their parents/grandparent had done the same thing, there would have been a pile on of 'It's against the spirit of the rules' and 'Just because you can it doesn't mean you should'. If they had then gone on to get pneumonia and Covid, they would have been called selfish, murderous cunts who were personally responsible for overwhelming the NHS.

Tom Moore appears to have been a decent person. I don't think he would have had much time for hypocritical sanctimony or grief porn.

No I won't be clapping. I didn't do any of the previous clapping either.

I'm not remotely in mourning for a 100 year old man I've never met dying. Neither is any other member of the public who never met him. Having a sentimental indulgent little cry about this 'hero' is not grief. True grief is experienced for the loss of our loved ones and is unbearably painful. Nation in mourning my arse.

No. I will be doing a virtual parents evening and from a selfish point of view I hope my neighbours don’t so I can have a meaningful conversation with parents!

Nation in mourning my arse

I fear I must, after some considerable reflection, park my bum in Camp Reality and concur with the above.

OP are you taking the piss?

If you want to honour his memory then stop voting Tory.

Forget it. The next time I’ll be clapping will be when I’m next at the theatre.

Sad and shameful that so many people on here have zero respect for a war veteran of this country who raised an incredible amount of money for our NHS. Shame on you

What does respect look like to you? How should respect be conveyed, in your opinion? Is it posting utter claptrap like "Stand down, Sir" on facebook, or clapping on your doorstep with the rest of the professional virtue signallers?

Also, it isn't "my" NHS so please don't presume to speak for everyone when you use that nauseating phrase "our NHS".

Totally agree with the PP who is “Seriously sick of this hero worshipping shit”. OK, he raised masses for good causes, but the reason he managed it was because the mainstream media latched on and promoted him, and he went viral. And the reason they latched on was because his daughter has connections (it’s who you know not what you know/do), and he ticked a few boxes; NHS. Tick. Very old. Tick. Veteran. Tick. During lockdown and people wanted a good news story. Tick. He succeeded and became this “hero” just as much because of circumstances as achievement. Yet I know people who have done similar great things, longer term, but because they didn’t tick the right boxes the media didn’t promote them and they were ignored.

So please, no clapping, no statues. Clapping was nauseating virtue signalling the first time round, I didn’t do it then and won’t do it now. I’ll continue volunteering for the NHS instead.

I think that compelled clapping is pretty unhealthy in a democratic society. Luckily it's just FaceBook delusion, not government policy.

I certainly won't be clapping. More attention seeking crap from people who have nothing better to do.

I haven’t seen anything about a clap. Won’t be taking part tho, these things are all for show in most cases. As others have said, im all clapped out. Raising more money for the NHS would be a much more fitting tribute than some virtue signalling clap on your doorstep

My friend’s husband died from covid, he was a great man and raised a LOT for charity. He also set up a foundation for disadvantaged kids. Did anyone clap for him? Did they fuck.
Did he get to have his family around him when he passed? Nope.

Captain Tom was a fabulous man and a real symbol of hope during the pandemic but I’m sorry, to clap on my doorstep on Thursday for one man feels like a snack in the face to everyone else we’ve lost during this pandemic.

And I’m sick of bloody clapping.