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I don’t understand this

55 replies

Itllpass · 02/02/2021 00:13

There are a number of threads here where the op or a family member has tested positive but they haven’t left the house except for a walk. That too as the op says is within there own family circle. Grocery by delivery- this really concerns me as this is pretty much how we are carrying on and i believed that we are at a low risk of catching Covid. Where or how are these posters catching it? Is there a chance if you catching it if you walk past a person? In open air? Doesn’t seem plausible 😳

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iveturnedintoachip · 02/02/2021 07:29

I do avoid the shops & local common though as too packed.

EarringsandLipstick · 02/02/2021 07:34

@HalfPastThree

My tin hat theory is that it travels in vast clouds in the air, like pollen. Most people won’t catch it but some people are particularly susceptible at particular times. And unless they’re in the middle of nowhere, they’d get it whatever they did.
😳😳😳

Really?!?!

EarringsandLipstick · 02/02/2021 07:37

But you come in MN and learn that actually most people don't go anywhere and are still getting it.

Don't take MN as any kind of evidence.

'Most' people do not 'not go anywhere' and 'most' people are not catching it from groceries or occasional outdoor walks.

Follow guidance, and you'll have done all you can to minimise your risk.

BooksAreNotEssentialInWales · 02/02/2021 07:37

If you really have spent the best part of a year not leaving the house except for short walks then your immune system won’t have been primed during the summer to cope with the winter. Winter was always going to be awful. I did everything I could during the summer to make sure mine was ready for it. Excess winter deaths happen every year in their tens of thousands. The government were very irresponsible not preparing people for the spread of a new virus during winter.

EarringsandLipstick · 02/02/2021 07:39

all the people I know in real life who've had covid, didn't even pass it on to anyone in their household.

This was the case in Ireland too, but with new variants, we are seeing that pretty much the entire household gets it, if one person does.

DenisetheMenace · 02/02/2021 07:41

SilverGlitterBaubles

“The virus is airborne, not all masks are effective and many are worn incorrectly, people do not respect social distancing while out walking or in supermarkets, the new variants are more transmissible.“

Yep, this.

SilverGlitterBaubles · 02/02/2021 07:43

@EarringsandLipstick

all the people I know in real life who've had covid, didn't even pass it on to anyone in their household.

This was the case in Ireland too, but with new variants, we are seeing that pretty much the entire household gets it, if one person does.

This has always puzzled me that people can apparently catch it in a supermarket but others will not catch it from a member of their household even people sleeping in the same bed.
ScrapThatThen · 02/02/2021 07:45

Yes and who knows if those peoples partners are off having affairs, their teens are going to all night raves or their parents are not being as isolated as they claim to be (ddads friends have according to him been 'super careful' but when I go to his they ask me in and try to insist on a hug. I barely know them!)

SilverGlitterBaubles · 02/02/2021 07:59

Agreed,I also think people still do not consider the wider web of contacts. DM said that it would be ok to see DCs because they were not at school and really did not get it when I said it was not ok to see any of us in this household because DH still goes to work with others who also have spouses who work and DC who are going to nursery and school Confused

HereComesATractor · 02/02/2021 08:19

I think people have to come to terms with the idea that you can’t “keep yourself/family safe” from a virus in this way. You can minimise risks, according to your circumstances, but believing that you can control things to the extent that you won’t catch a virus is not sensible

RedskyBynight · 02/02/2021 08:32

I'm always dubious of these claims. And, there is of course, a world of difference between going for a walk where you hardly see a soul and then only to walk past quickly at a distance of more than 2m ... and going for a walk in a crowded place where you are near people for longer, seeing someone you know and stopping for a chat ...

TryingNotToPanicOverCovid · 02/02/2021 08:34

I really did believe I had controlled things (only doing walks and not going in shops/seeing people. ) But on another thread I think most other people who "dont know how they got it" had kids in school/went to the supermarket oncr a week etc.

I dont know many people who like me avoided all risk apart from walking and supermarket deliveries (stood back no contact) however both contact
tracers I spoke to said they get a few a day like me.

I cannot work out how my family are not ill. A friend I'm in (online) contact with had it go through their family (apart from kids - they had a random temperature one morning she almost missed /other a slight sore tummy but wouldn't have noticed it) . Noone in my family has got it.

So how I got it from a random passing and they dont get it from close contact I have no idea.

Waxonwaxoff0 · 02/02/2021 08:41

I don't get this either. Meanwhile I go out to work daily in a factory, I've been in the same room as 3 positive people and I haven't had it.

TryingNotToPanicOverCovid · 02/02/2021 08:45

1 in 3 people are asymptomatic. I reckon a lot more people have had it than realise as that would mean a lot of people would never have reason to test but might have had it.

The guardian suggests 1 in 5 people have had covid. That's truly a lot of people.

TryingNotToPanicOverCovid · 02/02/2021 08:48

www.theguardian.com/world/ng-interactive/2021/jan/10/one-in-five-have-had-coronavirus-in-england-new-modelling-says

Here the modelling suggests ecen higher in some boroughs.

Sunshinegirl82 · 02/02/2021 08:57

I've been shopping throughout, have children in school/childcare, have been into the office full time until this most recently lockdown, meet up with people (within the rules), have never wiped or washed down any delivery. As far as I know I've never had covid nor has anyone in my household. If I did have it, it was in February last year and fairly mild.

A friend of mine's DH tested positive (v mild symptoms). No one else in the family developed symptoms and all tested negative despite.

I'm not sure there is any logic to it to be honest. I think there must be some innate susceptibility or resistance based on genetics or previous exposure/immune response.

Waxonwaxoff0 · 02/02/2021 09:05

@TryingNotToPanicOverCovid

1 in 3 people are asymptomatic. I reckon a lot more people have had it than realise as that would mean a lot of people would never have reason to test but might have had it.

The guardian suggests 1 in 5 people have had covid. That's truly a lot of people.

That's true although I'm fairly certain I haven't had it as I'm doing the ONS study so I do get tested regularly. Plus I was tested again after people at my workplace were catching it. It's always been negative.

So if I've had it, it would have been before August and I was furloughed then so I wasn't really in contact with anyone like I am now.

iveturnedintoachip · 02/02/2021 09:06

Yes I get tested weekly now & was tested when colleagues had it.

TryingNotToPanicOverCovid · 02/02/2021 09:09

Oh Waxon I didn't mean you specifically - just in general a lot of people wil l have had it.

I know many hcp are testing regulalry and it is a puzzle how people can be in contact /shopping/etc etc and know they're not positive and someone like me that's avoided so much for a year gets it.

DumpedWife · 02/02/2021 09:11

Open air. I don't get why everyone thinks they're do safe outdoors especially with the new highly contagious variant.

People just don't get it.

Watch how long the steam you breathe out hangs in the air and where it floats. Its still there even on a warm day. That steam is droplets of your breath. It eventually dissapears from visibility as it thins out, but it will still be in the air for a bit longer even invisibly.

People.dont stick to 2m socially distanced outside. Everyone thinks their safe as houses outside.

It's not the only reason, but being outdoors isn't as bullet proof as People think. I believe its part of the current problem.

Witchend · 02/02/2021 09:12

People do tend to say "I haven't been anywhere" meaning anywhere unusual.
If you probe down they've been into the shops three times, work twice the dc are in school and they went for a walk and chatted to Majorie up the road for half an hour and...

There is also the very remote possibility of picking it up off the shopping that's been delivered, moving the bin up the drive, the post, or the bell next door that they rang to let them know there was a parcel sitting outside. Remote, but in a county of millions that may happen.

TryingNotToPanicOverCovid · 02/02/2021 09:17

Witchend . Hmm no we haven't been anywhere other than walks. I think those walks are more likely to have been a problem passing people than on a Tesco delivery - but yes even low risk carries a risk.

I think from the other thread about "haven't been anywhere" someone was convinced their shopping trips to a small shop didnt "count"!

EarringsandLipstick · 02/02/2021 09:17

This has always puzzled me that people can apparently catch it in a supermarket but others will not catch it from a member of their household even people sleeping in the same bed.

EarringsandLipstick · 02/02/2021 09:19

This has always puzzled me that people can apparently catch it in a supermarket but others will not catch it from a member of their household even people sleeping in the same bed.

I posted too soon, sorry.

Silver think of it like a cold, for example. Not everyone in a household, even someone sharing a bed, will catch a cold, but you can from being out & about. It's not a definite thing.

Equally, like any viral illness, some people will be v sick, others barely at all, and in the case of Covid, it's possible to be entirely asymptomatic.

tenlittlecygnets · 02/02/2021 09:21

@PlanDeRaccordement

Every item delivered to your door can potentially be carrying Covid.m
Show me any evidence that Covid-19 is transmitted by surfaces! I can't find any.

Scaremongering is not helpful.