Partner refuses COVID jab...

[cosmikdebris]

He's convinced that the government are trying to reduce human population and that the COVID jab with damage our health or reduce our lifespan. I think he's completely mad 🤣 it's come out of nowhere, he's never had this attitude towards anything, he's not a conspiracy theory kinda guy. He's fine with other jabs, just is weird about this one. Not really sure why I'm posting this, i just guess I want someone to confirm I'm not the only one that thinks he's stupid😂

Is he in an at risk group? Not that it really matters. It’s his choice ultimately and people are being a bit silly telling you to ditch him. For most people this is a mild illness.

Dr Annabel Sowemimo makes the points about inequality and how people have got to that way of thinking.

It would be a huge turn-off to me to hear my partner making such stupid and ill informed statements (can't fancy a man with a sub-par brain).

I wouldn't be able to stay with my DH if he were to decide against taking the vaccine. It's too fundamental a difference of opinion and I would lose all respect for him. (Thankfully for me, that's not the case.)

If Vaccine passports become a thing I wonder what will happen if one partner refuses to have the vaccine, assume that might cause resentment if you can't go on holiday as a family again. Especially if the person reusing to have the vaccine has come up with a batshit crazy reason for refusing.

@inquietant @PuzzledObserver presumably if you catch it, but because of the vaccine you're asymptomatic or very very mild, you're not spreading droplets through coughing. It's only "reduced" transmission rather than "prevent" it because you can spread viral load through breathing and touching.

I'm not a doctor and have no idea of the science, but it seems a logical explanation

DH is not having the vaccine, he was offered it as he's eligible due to being on the CEV list but the condition he's on the list for is in remission.
I plan to have it at some point.

This doesn't bother me, it's his decision. It would bother me if he started spouting microchip conspiracy theories.

@RosesAndLemonade 💐

@ittakes2

My cleaner thinks its a conspiracy and the government are injecting people with tracking devices. My husband said he can't see why the government would be interested in tracking her as the only place she goes besides the school run is too and from our house! Seriously, she's an amazing cleaner but her rants on the conspiracy views are so extreme its tricky as she sounds so crazy that I have to wonder how I can trust someone so whacky. Ironically, she is very very religious and so trustworthy - just has crazy ideas when it somes to the government.

@ittakes2 how is it ironic that she is very religious and also believes crazy stuff? 🤔

Wow! Do you not think he has a right to choose what goes into HIS body? He has probably done some research on these experimental jabs ( and they are experimental as the studies will only end in Jan 2023!). He has also probably read about many cases where vaccines, esp. the Pfizer/Moderna ones cause severe side effects, and he does not want to risk. It takes time to develop and test the vaccines. With covid ones - they have developed them but there is no data on safety past the 2 months! So you literally do not know how it might affect you in 2-3 5-10 years. So why risk it when your immune system is well equipped to deal with a virus with a recovery rate of 99.8%????!! I personally thing all those people who take the vaccines are deluded but I am not questioning their decisions. If they want to have it - fine. Their choice, as long as they have done some research.
P.S. as for the depopulation - you need to do some research into the agenda of the WEF and in particular Bill Gates, Rockefeller foundation and Klaus Schwab. Then, you will see, that your other half is not mad but just being cautious and using his brain.

What's equally stupid and childish is posters bleating on about 'deal breakers' as though your relationship is a silly fling and not a marriage. They know full well real life doesn't work like that but it's easy to tell a random on the internet to 'bin him.' I think his reasons are batshit but you know the type of person he is better than anyone here!

(Or, if not a marriage, a serious long term relationship)

Its his decision.
My dh doesnt agree with it either (and he IS a massive CT) but he is getting it because he knows how important it is to me. I'd respect his decision not too though if he insisted. Its his risk, so up to him.

If refusing the vaccine because of conspiracy theories I would definitely rethink my relationship.

If refusing for genuine concerns or a phobia then we would talk but I would be fine about it

My husband has a phobia of needles. So I was expecting him to refuse to have the vaccine. Which isn't great as he is in his 50s with a man belly. However he is very eager to get it apparently.

(I am bracing myself to have to sit on him to keep him in chair on the day)

@WalrusWife

Somebody disagrees with me so they must be mentally ill. That’s so Mumsnet.

Well said, oh so predictable deal breaker comments!

I thought my DH might refuse just because he generally doesn’t go along with the crowd but no, he happily went along. Had he not I would have been irritated firstly because we don’t know if having the vaccine protects other people yet so there’s possibly a social responsibility involved. Secondly, if going to events or going on holidays in future depends on having the vaccine then it would have been restrictive not to have it.

If he were a conspiracy theorist though I would definitely rethink the relationship because the people I know who are conspiracy theorists are totally absorbed by it. Obsessed. Life is hard enough without having to listen to their shit.

@cosmikdebris if you don't care, why come on here asking about it??!!

I would try to have a proper talk to him about it, OP, if only to see just how deep this runs. Perhaps he's taken to reading conspiracy websites etc and you've had no idea until this has brought it to the surface. If he's really been bitten hard by the conspiracy bug then there could be further problems ahead. Best not to be confrontational in any way otherwise he will probably just clam up.

I’d not be impressed with this. This conspiracy bollocks endangers us all. The sooner the majority of people are vaccinated, the sooner we can return to a more normal existence. I am absolutely on board with airlines etc insisting on vaccination before travel. Don’t want the jab? Your choice, but you’ll be holidaying in glorious British weather for all eternity.

@MercyBooth

makes the points about inequality

Could you please stop bringing the inequality crap into every single thread on Coronavirus! Stop the propaganda, please!

Classic response on here is "that would be a deal breaker for me" when you know its likely that in 99.9% of cases it really wouldn't be a deal breaker for them. 🙄

It’s not like the GP will section the husband as NHS mental health services are almost non existent. Only Covid matters.

@Sparklfairy I’m not a doctor either, but what you said is what someone who is a doctor said on a clip I heard the other day. The absence of coughing means the virus is not forcefully spread as much. However, being asymptomatic but infected is still problematic, because you do still breathe it out and you would have no reason to get a test if asymptomatic.

Another factor is that, in general, some people just generate more virus than others. If the vaccine also reduces the amount of virus you generate, that would reduce the risk of transmission - potentially by a lot.

I think everyone is entitled to their own opinion surely? Whether we agree or not .What is a free Country OW! My family and myself are waiting to have our jabs when our time is due .I would hope enough people have themselves innoculated ,and this would presumably give coverage to stop the virus being transmitted so easily.

ChasingRainbows19 This is just so stupid isnt it? There is a big "Scheme" to frighten us all into submission! Why if there is no virus ,has my cousin caught it working as a Hospital Doctor ,or my friend s Great Aunt then? I too am not bothered either if Bill Gates wants to track me taking my dog out or cooking /going on MN whatever.

I think everyone is entitled to their own opinion surely?
Everyone is entitled to an opinion, but if their opinion reflects delusional paranoia that the government are trying to make them ill, that indicates that they have a mental health issue. As long as they aren't harming themselves nor others, they are entitled not to seek help for those delusions. It's not advisable though, and can lead to conditions deteriorating.