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“No onesies please as it makes the children in school jealous”

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Lemons1571 · 30/01/2021 15:43

A message from the head of our primary. Please could all parents at home please ensure their primary children are fully dressed in day clothes ready for their class 9am zoom. No onesies. Apparently the children actually allowed to go to school are annoyed seeing their classmates lounging at home in onesies / pj’s / loungewear.

Ummm, I’m sorry, I thought I heard you issuing instructions on what I must / must not do in my own house. What possible authority does a school have to do this? Kids forced out of face to face education. Being shown some lovely examples of the artwork done by the kids at school over zoom with the caveat “oh don’t worry I know you can’t do this at home”.

Read the room ffs. Just another request to put other people’s children before my own. As it happens my primary child gets dressed of his own accord, but if he wanted to wear a onesie then quite frankly anyone else’s opinion can fuck off.

Physically going to school = uniform worn as per school rules.
Physically barred from school = my house my rules.

No doubt I’m overreacting but it annoyed me!

OP posts:
DuchessHastings · 01/02/2021 08:48

Children at school have parents working in schools or NHS etc my children are at home because DH is working from home but many of my colleagues kids worry about their parents getting sick whilst in classes with no friends @Lemons1571why not think of others rather than just you and yours getting dressed for school is not going to harm your children whilst your attitude might.

Seth41 · 01/02/2021 08:52

* ‘How keen are you on teachers taking classes from their own home whilst dressed in pyjamas? Their house, their rules, after all.’*

This is very relevant.

To all those saying their children will wear what they damn well want in their own homes, would you be ok with teacher rocking up to zoom lesson in a onesie / PJs? Genuine question

Seth41 · 01/02/2021 08:56

@thirdfiddle

Fashion rules are weird. Dungarees - fine. Joggers - fine. Hoodies - fine. What's wrong with onesies? They're just another variant. They're no less dressed if they put on a onesie. Are people thinking like animal dress-up ones or something? DD's is indistinguishable from a nice warm jumper and joggers - unless you see the join. Asking for uniform is one thing. If they're allowed casual clothes they should be allowed casual clothes.
If it was a home clothes day at school, would you be ok with your child going in wearing a onesie?
Oysterbabe · 01/02/2021 09:22

To all those saying their children will wear what they damn well want in their own homes, would you be ok with teacher rocking up to zoom lesson in a onesie / PJs? Genuine question

Do you think there's no difference between a child and a paid professional?

Seth41 · 01/02/2021 09:31

@Oysterbabe

To all those saying their children will wear what they damn well want in their own homes, would you be ok with teacher rocking up to zoom lesson in a onesie / PJs? Genuine question

Do you think there's no difference between a child and a paid professional?

I do yes.

Do I think that extends to clothing? No. Casual clothing at home? Sure for both teacher and student
Pjs and onesies? No for both teacher and student

Pissedoff1234 · 01/02/2021 10:09

To be honest, I don't think I've noticed what any of the kids teachers are wearing and don't really care. However, if they are getting paid for a job then it is up to their boss.

My children haven't chose this and neither have I. I am stressed at getting all their work in on time whilst cooking and cleaning and doing all the other household/parent jobs needed to keep them healthy, clean and safe.

Everyone is just getting through this the best they can and if it means that I can help my children with their schoolwork instead of spending all my time washing and ironing then that's my choice. I think if they're bothered about kids being jealous then let them come in their own clothes. It's a bloody pandemic. It doesn't chuffing matter.

BigPaperBag · 01/02/2021 10:19

I wouldn’t work from home in pyjama’s so why should the kids have their lessons in their PJ’s. How bizarre Confused I think that by putting on a smart T-shirt/shirt and jeans or slacks will also help them to get into the right mindset to work. It’s a good life lesson.

ginastill · 01/02/2021 10:19

OP you're completely right, I'm surprised to see anyone disagree in the comments. All the children who are learning online from home are not only getting subpar education compared to their peers, but are also missing the classroom environment and their friends. They're lonely and getting poor education, why on earth shouldn't they do it in comfort. The children attending school have the privilege of being there, yet they stillw ant to take more from children stuck at home. They don't have any power over what you wear at home, or what your house looks like, etc. Teachers are so used to obedient children that they go overboard and assume parents won't protest. It's your child and you know what will help them learn best.

grey12 · 01/02/2021 10:27

@actiongirl1978

My children learn better when dressed and ready for the day. Their mental health is significantly better than if allowed to wallow in nightwear all morning.

When I wfh I dress appropriately. Its a state of mind.

You're right, it's a state of mind. Well..... for some people! Others may find being comfortable preferable.

My mum can't function without brushing her hair! I can easily put mine in a bun if I'm staying at home. Grin

0gfhty · 01/02/2021 10:34

YANBU. I would be tempted to purposely wear onsies. I'm sure the kids who are experiencing the privilege of a school education can deal with seeing children in onesies at home. This is absurd

0gfhty · 01/02/2021 10:40

I would love it if teachers taught in PJ's! That would be excellent!

wildchild554 · 01/02/2021 10:41

I just want to point out the education kids are getting at school is the same as kids are getting at home, they are doing the same lessons. There are pros and cons to both being in school at the moment and being out of school, neither is ideal but it is the way it is for now but the education they are getting is the same.

Oysterbabe · 01/02/2021 10:48

@wildchild554

I just want to point out the education kids are getting at school is the same as kids are getting at home, they are doing the same lessons. There are pros and cons to both being in school at the moment and being out of school, neither is ideal but it is the way it is for now but the education they are getting is the same.
At my kids school we get a recorded video by the teacher outlining what she is going to do with the children in school that day. Then we get a couple of worksheets and maybe some instructions to help us do the same with ours. I wouldn't call that the same. Especially as we are not teachers and are trying to do our jobs at the same time. The children attending school are at a massive advantage and are being taught normal lessons by their usual teacher.
riceuten · 01/02/2021 10:53

I think your language says it all - "Kids forced out of face to face education" - presumably by evil teachers who are sitting at home watching daytime TV in their pants and still getting paid zillions AND 12 weeks holiday a year !

"Just another request to put other people’s children before my own" - I am staggered you have interpreted this that way, but then you go on to say "my house my rules", which probably tells me all I need to know.

Now, as it goes, I personally think school uniforms are utterly ridiculous, but that's for another thread elsewhere, but if that is what your school is requesting, then no, it is not an unreasonable request at all.

africanantelope · 01/02/2021 11:01

We got a similar email. Although it included make sure nobody else can be seen on screen in the background... we have a small house and 4 kids! My kids cameras are now off in all teams meetings so as not to offend anybody with the sight of my youngest who is usually in some state of undress 🙄

ObsidianViolet · 01/02/2021 11:06

I'm curious about the pjs/onesie being a safeguarding issue, I remember Dd having pajama days at primary school where the children would bring in £1 and go to school in pajamas. So I'm interested to know why onesie at home is seen as inappropriate but walking to school and spending the day at school in pajamas was fine? 🤷‍♀️ Not sure if anyone else had to do this, maybe our primary school was weird 😂

NoSleepInTheHeat · 01/02/2021 11:25

@riceuten

I think your language says it all - "Kids forced out of face to face education" - presumably by evil teachers who are sitting at home watching daytime TV in their pants and still getting paid zillions AND 12 weeks holiday a year !

"Just another request to put other people’s children before my own" - I am staggered you have interpreted this that way, but then you go on to say "my house my rules", which probably tells me all I need to know.

Now, as it goes, I personally think school uniforms are utterly ridiculous, but that's for another thread elsewhere, but if that is what your school is requesting, then no, it is not an unreasonable request at all.

OP is referring to the fact that some children are at school with teachers so not sure why you talk about presumably by evil teachers who are sitting at home watching daytime TV in their pants and still getting paid zillions AND 12 weeks holiday a year ??

Also, her comment about "Just another request to put other people’s children before my own" was because the school's email says the children in school are jealous hence the request for no onesie. Seems very clear to me, why are you "staggered" she has interpreted it that way, she hasn't interpreted anything, they have said it explicitely!

Confused
LizFlowers · 01/02/2021 11:25

My goodness, I do feel sorry for teachers, their job is unbelievably hard. I do 'get' nobody has to be a teacher, they have a choice but that can be said about any profession and we need them.

I really understand one of my teacher friends who did not renew her contract last year(primarily so she could be at home with her children), but not everyone is in the position to do that. She loves teaching too! A maths graduate who went into the profession later after doing something else for a few years. She misses it dreadfully but is sure she did the right thing for her family at this time.

What a mess this is and we are concerning ourselves with children's attire whilst working from home.

0gfhty · 01/02/2021 11:25

@wildchild554

I just want to point out the education kids are getting at school is the same as kids are getting at home, they are doing the same lessons. There are pros and cons to both being in school at the moment and being out of school, neither is ideal but it is the way it is for now but the education they are getting is the same.
Kids in my school are being taught the curriculum as usual with their class teacher. This is the same at all the schools in my local area. The kids at home are given prerecorded 15min guidance to maths and English. So I wouldn't assume all schools are the same
wildchild554 · 01/02/2021 11:29

@ my kids are getting the same work as they are at school and doing it on devices it's been made quite clear they are not getting any extra the only benefit is they get some interaction with friends. The kids at home don't get the interaction but then they are at less risk of catching the virus and bringing it home. If anyone thinks their kids are getting less education than those in school, it needs to be brought up with school.

PeachyPeachTrees · 01/02/2021 11:29

Seeing them in PJ makes it appear like they are relaxing at home even though in reality they are doing remote learning. I see their point but even home clothes looks like mufti to a kid in school wearing a uniform.

NoSleepInTheHeat · 01/02/2021 11:31

@wildchild554

I just want to point out the education kids are getting at school is the same as kids are getting at home, they are doing the same lessons. There are pros and cons to both being in school at the moment and being out of school, neither is ideal but it is the way it is for now but the education they are getting is the same.
At school they have a teacher and face to face lessons, I think that makes all the difference. At home most DC get parents who are busy working and video lessons with no chance of asking live questions. Very hypocritical to pretend they are getting the same education.
Hedwigtheowl · 01/02/2021 11:35

YABU
They are using DC in school as an excuse: a polite way of saying get your DC properly dressed and in the right frame of mind to learn.

wildchild554 · 01/02/2021 11:38

@NoSleepInTheHeat again needs to be brought up with school ours has a system where we can message the teacher for help. I do understand parents are busy with work etc, I do work full time from home and both kids have SEN, one with autism and one with global development delay, which we don't know the cause of yet, so both need extra support which they are getting either by myself, or remotely from the teacher. If there are any issues with the education being provided remotely it's best contacting school.

Didilala · 01/02/2021 11:40

I understand your anger. You are not being unreasonable at all.