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Are your case rates currently higher or lower than pre tier 4?

58 replies

itsgettingweird · 27/01/2021 16:41

Just that really!

We went into tier 4 on Boxing Day and our case rate has now come down to the same level.

I see this as hope. I also know they kept rising until the lockdown in Jan and so we need to stick at this.

But case rates dropping alongside the vaccine programme is looking more positive than 2 weeks ago when they thought we may need even tougher restrictions.

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itsgettingweird · 27/01/2021 21:32

I'm glad to see most people are seeing benefits to lockdown.

Hope those of you rising see some benefit too soon. It must be frustrating to be locked down and numbers rising.

If anyone uses the data dashboard it's reassuring most black is now maroon and most maroon is now blue. Hopefully light blue in a week and then down to the greens 🤞

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CarryOnPlainHunting · 27/01/2021 21:36

About the same. Ours came down a little but have gone up again. Around the 300 mark.

PurpleWh1teGreen · 27/01/2021 21:57

My real concern is that the rate is 300:100,000 in our district and there are 200 districts with worse rates. I'm not sure that enough people understand quite how bad things still are.

I wonder if they have either forgotten their true rates at the end of December. or have perhaps misunderstood the data.

And yet there are 100,000 reasons to keep following the rules.

RuleWithAWoodenFoot · 27/01/2021 21:58

Same now as it was at xmas, peaked on 1st Jan. Almost three times rate at end of last lockdown.

Poppystars · 27/01/2021 22:20

Higher. We were Tier 3 before Christmas and lockdown. Now going down so just around 400

AndcalloffChristmas · 27/01/2021 22:30

I know we got up to 1100 here in mid Jan, and we are now at 500. I think we were up to about 1000 when lockdown started but took a while for it to come down.

itsgettingweird · 28/01/2021 06:45

@PurpleWh1teGreen

My real concern is that the rate is 300:100,000 in our district and there are 200 districts with worse rates. I'm not sure that enough people understand quite how bad things still are.

I wonder if they have either forgotten their true rates at the end of December. or have perhaps misunderstood the data.

And yet there are 100,000 reasons to keep following the rules.

Agree that there seems to be a acceptance of higher figures now. Actually not acceptance but rather less concern and surprise - complacency maybe?

I remember when we had 10-15/100k. It felt low but when we got up to 50 odd I was worrying.

Really concerned as we got up into the 100's and hit 600. Now we are back down to under 300 and dropping I'm relaxing. Not what I, doing but rather my concern.

But you're right. It's still very high.

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Graciebobcat · 28/01/2021 06:46

Where can I look it up?

JulieJJ · 28/01/2021 06:53

Lower.

540 per 1000000 just before Devember 20th and now 299 per 1000000.

Fingers crossed this continues.

Graciebobcat · 28/01/2021 06:54

Just found it. Was 370/100,000 when we went into Tier 4 but the rate then more than doubled in a week and more, due to the new strain. Now it's back down to 3-400. November lockdown was a disaster as schools were open and the new strain absolutely ripped through secondary schools.

Monkeytennis97 · 28/01/2021 06:55

Lower. Was around 1000/100000 now around 600.

Covidcorvid · 28/01/2021 07:07

We were in tier 3 before lockdown. Rates were about 450/100000. They’re now 290/100,000. So quite a bit lower and seem to be falling steadily now.

I assume they went up from 450 during the first few weeks of lockdown as it would take a while to turn round but I stopped looking for a while.

skoobysnax · 28/01/2021 07:08

Very much lower. However we are on the border of two districts one had no hospital so our cases are around 200 and the hospital side is in the 800s. The hospital has Covid on practically every ward. Two people I know went in within the last two weeks for non Covid related treatment and became positive as a result of their stay. Also know of staff who have current infections. So until the hospital patients stop catching it from others there it's going to be a problem in this area

Mummyme87 · 28/01/2021 07:13

Ours are lower. We are 197 per 100k now and at Christmas we’re 240 per 100k rapidly rising to 1200 within 2weeks

Mummyme87 · 28/01/2021 07:13

And we were tier 4 from before Christmas (south london)

Mindymomo · 28/01/2021 07:19

We are in Surrey, month before Christmas we were tier 2, then went to tier 4 as cases rose badly and since lockdown they are now falling steadily. The most cases were 29 Dec of nearly 2000 per day, now the rate is around 400.

itsgettingweird · 28/01/2021 18:37

@skoobysnax

Very much lower. However we are on the border of two districts one had no hospital so our cases are around 200 and the hospital side is in the 800s. The hospital has Covid on practically every ward. Two people I know went in within the last two weeks for non Covid related treatment and became positive as a result of their stay. Also know of staff who have current infections. So until the hospital patients stop catching it from others there it's going to be a problem in this area
That's interesting.

Out city and a town both went into tier 4 before Christmas yet my town between them stayed tier 2.

The other 2 have hospitals.

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ceeveebee · 28/01/2021 18:46

Greater Manchester borough
Went into extra restrictions at the end of July when our rate was 40/100,000
Went into tier 3 mid-October when our rate was 400/100,000
At end of November lockdown our rate was 80/100,000 but we stayed in tier 3
Got put into tier 4 on 30 December when our rate was 300/100,000
Peaked at almost 500/100,000 on 8 January and now back down to 300

Bit of a rollercoaster!

boys3 · 28/01/2021 18:48

@skoobysnax

Very much lower. However we are on the border of two districts one had no hospital so our cases are around 200 and the hospital side is in the 800s. The hospital has Covid on practically every ward. Two people I know went in within the last two weeks for non Covid related treatment and became positive as a result of their stay. Also know of staff who have current infections. So until the hospital patients stop catching it from others there it's going to be a problem in this area
the thing is though cases are recorded by home address so the location of the hospital is neither here nor there
littleowl1 · 28/01/2021 18:50

If anyone is not sure and wants to check their current rate per 100K, I update the table on www.covidmessenger.com every day with the daily cases and rate per 100K.

Seperately, today I updated the charts on hospital cases, daily admissions and covid occupied ventilator beds for every region in England with the latest NHS data - see below.

www.covidmessenger.com/hospital-cases/
www.covidmessenger.com/hospital-admissions/
www.covidmessenger.com/hospital-ventilation/

Thankfully daily hospital admissions seem to have started falling across the board. FIngers crossed it has the result of reducing patients in hospital soon enough and gives the staff some respite.

itsgettingweird · 28/01/2021 19:59

And can I just add little owl covid messenger is fab. I'm subscribed and lay a small amount to get 5 daily emails of my town and surrounding areas. It keeps me so well informed and I can see patterns. I work special Ed so have pupils coming from all those areas hence my checking.

I would recommend it to any Mner and hope little owl gets an MBE or whatever the letters are for services to the community when this is over.

It's my sanity life life!

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BogRollBOGOF · 29/01/2021 11:20

On 26th Dec we were tier 3 (went tier 4 in the last couple of days of Dec.) My neighbourhood was 230/100,000 and stable.
Our surge hit shortly after new year, and at present is just begining to decline more significantly after about 10 days of stabilising. At 418/ 100,000 today.

We were approaching our peak of 669 on Oct 31st max 712 7 Nov then plummeted rapidly by the 14th. So our November peak was highest. That seemed to be about the natural peak when lockdown cut in anyway.
Interestingly the reduction was far quicker despite the higher starting point and children being in school, than it's been this time where a harder lockdown has cut off the natural peak and it seems to be more drawn out.

At a greater scale that seemed to happen last spring/ summer with the north/ south divide. The regions that peaked later did not tail off rapidly and rates stayed higher for condiserably longer, with restrictions barely easing in some areas.

GhoulWithADragonTattoo · 29/01/2021 12:10

I think ours is lower but went into tier 4 much earlier than Boxing Day.

Florelei · 29/01/2021 12:18

Higher. It was in the 200s in December and is now 421.

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