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Do you feel sorry for Boris?

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User133847 · 27/01/2021 12:56

Seeing the headlines in the papers today and there seems a lot of sympathy for him. The front pages see him looking really forlorn and sorrow regarding the death toll.

When you think a year ago he was planning on ushering in what he deemed as a golden age of Britain. Now 12 months later it's in tatters.

I can understand the sympathy, but wonder whether a Labour PM would be offered the same.

OP posts:
donewithitalltodayandxmas · 27/01/2021 14:43

@wonderstuff now is not the time for a pm to resign? Do you know how much that would impact the economy and public confidence in things like vaccine. People who actually just consider there dislike for someone as opposed to what that would do here and now. Wether you want him longterm but now is not time for a resignation.

zoemum2006 · 27/01/2021 14:44

And the way people say "oh he's trying his best" like he's a 5 year old learning fractions!!

Why the low bar???

OhBabooahka · 27/01/2021 14:44

@WanderingMilly

Yes, I do feel sorry for Boris actually. I'm not expecting anyone to agree with me but I genuinely think he has tried to listen to the people from the outset, and had nothing but hatred for it.

As far as he was concerned, the people had voted for BREXIT, he promised to make it happen...and then the pandemic came along. He has had to juggle BREXIT talks alongside the changing pandemic, often being blamed for not being around...he was still having to be at BREXIT negotiation meetings as well.

On top of that, he can't do right for wrong. He has tried to steer a path between the opposing demands of the citizens, scientists, economists and back-benchers, to name but a few.

At the start of the pandemic, everyone round my home area was saying "it's nothing, just a flu" and wouldn't have stuck with a lockdown if we'd locked down sooner. At the school I worked at, staff were openly saying it was rubbish and were cross about the closures. Now of course, everyone says we should have locked down sooner.

I remember as soon as the infection rates began to lower, everyone was calling for shops and pubs to be open. And summer holidays, there was a tidal wave of people saying they 'deserved' their holiday abroad. So they get it and lo and behold, everyone says it's Boris' fault that we all went to the beach and Spain...and that everything should have stayed closed.

And then there was Christmas.....short memories again. Remember everyone calling for Christmas, "we've had a shit year, no-one has seen their family, at least give us Christmas"...... so Boris listened but now everyone says, if we hadn't got together at Christmas, we wouldn't have had another lockdown. Yes we would. The current lockdown is because of the new variant which has shown a spread across the country (Christmas doesn't spread across the country, it would have been high in all areas at the same time).

Finally we got our 3rd lockdown as teachers felt unsafe in schools, the unions were calling for it and children were finally seen to be taking the virus into homes and then the community. We've barely got the infection rates falling when there's a clammer of voices calling for everything to open up again. Honestly, what is wrong with the British public? Nothing but moans and complaints, and then blame it all on the PM......

I wholeheartedly agree with you.

You only have to look on MN at the division, those that want lockdown to save lives, those that want lockdown lifted to save lives. Those that want the pubs and shops to remain closed versus those that have had their 'civil liberties' curtailed. The British public are so divided on this that BJ, or any leader come to that, could never get it right.

ilovesooty · 27/01/2021 14:44

Not for one fucking moment.

And I hope that in some way he suffers and pays for what he's done.

ivfbeenbusy · 27/01/2021 14:45

[quote wonderstuff]@beingmorehappy there are countries who clearly do know how to handle this. Look at Australia & New Zealand, they looked at the last coronavirus outbreaks and acted accordingly.[/quote]
You can't compare two Islands with a greater land mass but significantly lower population to the U.K. which has one of the highest population densities

donewithitalltodayandxmas · 27/01/2021 14:45

@wonderstuff you show your pure lack of understanding by comparing countries that are just not comparable to us, even those countries leaders would acknowledge that , lady from australia was saying how much harder uk would have it to do quarantine like them.
Fair conparisons are more italy , france etc

donewithitalltodayandxmas · 27/01/2021 14:46

@ilovesooty what a nice person you must be.

sweetgingercat · 27/01/2021 14:46

There's sympathy from the paper's owners. But that's because they and the government are all in the rich man's club together and they don't give a shit about us as long as we keep enriching them...

But sympath from the people? I don't see much...

He wanted to be PM at any cost. And the cost has been very high...

DamnUserName21 · 27/01/2021 14:46

No fan but, yes, I do a bit.

He was dealt a shit hand and he played it badly.

ivfbeenbusy · 27/01/2021 14:47

@WanderingMilly

Yes, I do feel sorry for Boris actually. I'm not expecting anyone to agree with me but I genuinely think he has tried to listen to the people from the outset, and had nothing but hatred for it.

As far as he was concerned, the people had voted for BREXIT, he promised to make it happen...and then the pandemic came along. He has had to juggle BREXIT talks alongside the changing pandemic, often being blamed for not being around...he was still having to be at BREXIT negotiation meetings as well.

On top of that, he can't do right for wrong. He has tried to steer a path between the opposing demands of the citizens, scientists, economists and back-benchers, to name but a few.

At the start of the pandemic, everyone round my home area was saying "it's nothing, just a flu" and wouldn't have stuck with a lockdown if we'd locked down sooner. At the school I worked at, staff were openly saying it was rubbish and were cross about the closures. Now of course, everyone says we should have locked down sooner.

I remember as soon as the infection rates began to lower, everyone was calling for shops and pubs to be open. And summer holidays, there was a tidal wave of people saying they 'deserved' their holiday abroad. So they get it and lo and behold, everyone says it's Boris' fault that we all went to the beach and Spain...and that everything should have stayed closed.

And then there was Christmas.....short memories again. Remember everyone calling for Christmas, "we've had a shit year, no-one has seen their family, at least give us Christmas"...... so Boris listened but now everyone says, if we hadn't got together at Christmas, we wouldn't have had another lockdown. Yes we would. The current lockdown is because of the new variant which has shown a spread across the country (Christmas doesn't spread across the country, it would have been high in all areas at the same time).

Finally we got our 3rd lockdown as teachers felt unsafe in schools, the unions were calling for it and children were finally seen to be taking the virus into homes and then the community. We've barely got the infection rates falling when there's a clammer of voices calling for everything to open up again. Honestly, what is wrong with the British public? Nothing but moans and complaints, and then blame it all on the PM......

Totally this

Maybe people should consider their own behaviour in the 3 lockdowns.....how many of you can say you didn't break a single rule and not help contribute to infection rates?????

Impatiens · 27/01/2021 14:47

Yes, I do feel sorry for Boris actually. I'm not expecting anyone to agree with me but I genuinely think he has tried to listen to the people from the outset, and had nothing but hatred for it.

I genuinely don't understand how anyone can still hold this view. It's clear that he hasn't listened to the right people - not just 'not listened' but actively disregarded important advice. He has been chaotic and dishonest and, imo, criminally negligent.

donewithitalltodayandxmas · 27/01/2021 14:48

@sweethingernut well I see sympathy from a lot of people around me , not the far left but many others . They may not agree with all he has or hasn't done but they can comprehend its been hard and the decisions being made will always be shit for someone

VinylDetective · 27/01/2021 14:49

how many of you can say you didn't break a single rule and not help contribute to infection rates?????

I can. HTH.

sweetgingercat · 27/01/2021 14:50

•WanderingMilly•

As far as he was concerned, the people had voted for BREXIT, he promised to make it happen...and then the pandemic came along. He has had to juggle BREXIT talks alongside the changing pandemic, often being blamed for not being around...he was still having to be at BREXIT negotiation meetings as well.

You talk about him as if he had no agency. He was the one that caused brexit by lying to the people that voted for it about the great sunlit uplands. And he hasn't dealt with it either. A lot of people are in the shit from his thin agreement and will lose their jobs and livelihood.

donewithitalltodayandxmas · 27/01/2021 14:50

@Impatiens can you proove that ? Who should he of listened to ? Do you have access to all the reports ? Or access to all the decisions made and why ?

Ironfloor269 · 27/01/2021 14:52

Feel sorry for Boris Johnson?

Pahahahahaha! Good one, OP.

Odious, pompous fucker. He brought this country to the death knell. He's got blood on his hands.

Jocasta2018 · 27/01/2021 14:52

No.
I feel sorry for the UK & its people.

donewithitalltodayandxmas · 27/01/2021 14:53

@VinylDetective you will be one of very few , and most would of gone against the guidelines at very least .
The amount on here that had to go for a walk whilst isolating as they def couldn't pass on and would not meet anyone - yet scientific advice was stay home , must shop in 2's as its not a law , and even lots if rule bending. Rules would if been made expecting some bending and probably not so so strict that it would cause riots and uproar as tensions were high , with other things going on as well .

Dontforgetyourbrolly · 27/01/2021 14:54

I include him in everyone I feel sorry for at the moment which is pretty much all of us!

donewithitalltodayandxmas · 27/01/2021 14:55

Yes OP a labour leader would of been offered the same as papers back who ever they want , many of them were pro brexit but now you wouldn't think so.
Any leader would be given a degree of sympathy having to try and manage a pandemic by most reasonable people .

ilovesooty · 27/01/2021 14:55

[quote donewithitalltodayandxmas]@ilovesooty what a nice person you must be.[/quote]
I really don't care what you think about what I said. It's what I feel. Imo he deserves to be punished and the sooner and harder the better.

anotherboyontheway · 27/01/2021 14:55

Yep, I feel sorry for the man. He got thrown into this mess that no one could really of predicted. He has welcomed a newborn, been in hospital with the virus and has had the weight of the world on his shoulders for the past year. Could he of done things differently and probably better? Course he could of but hindsight is a beautiful thing. He will never be able to please everyone and I think it's unfair to hold him personally accountable

Dontforgetyourbrolly · 27/01/2021 14:56

Whenever he makes any decisions another group screams the loudest to get their own way .
He can only do so much , hes not some kind of messiah that can magic away a global pandemic so people need to stop playing the blame game

0ntheg0again · 27/01/2021 14:56

I just can't fathom anyone looking at this shit show and still defends him! I really really can't, is it because they voted for him and don't want to loose face? Have you listened to him and his cronies? He can't answer a straight question, it's like listening to a fucking broken record, they shouldn't get away with it, it's some sort of sick PR show all the way through! Hate him and have no sympathy what so ever, I hope he goes down in history as a shameful figure

donewithitalltodayandxmas · 27/01/2021 14:56

@ilovesooty why reply then ?
If a subsequent report finds him negligent then yes but not trial by public or media ? Can you not see how wrong that is ?