It’s never going to end is it?

[Pink98]

The legislation has been extended to give local councils lockdown powers until the 17th of July ???

Why on Earth ?? If the vaccine works... why will we need to be locked down in the summer ?

Are we just going to be trapped forever

I feel so miserable

@Userzzz

This is the new normal. They’ll never stop the lockdowns...

Yeah right!

yaboo
The trouble with the vaccine programme, imho, is two-fold. Firstly, I think it's targeted at the wrong people. Sure, we want to protect the old and the vulnerable, great, very noble, but starting with the 'oldest' and 'sickest' people isn't the way to protect the majority, is it?

It is the way to protect the majority because the whole point of the measures is to prevent the health service from becoming overwhelmed. If the health service collapses then it affects everyone

I reckon the priority should be those who spend the most contact time with other people in the community, because despite lockdowns, and social distancing, and 70% of people working from home, it's still circulating. Via community transmission.

But people who aren't elderly are not, usually, the ones most at risk of becoming seriously ill. The vaccines are being given on an age sliding scale, because the virus affects people on an age sliding scale. If someone younger is more at risk, then are including earlier for vaccination.

This years another write off - it’s just 2 years of your life - it’s not that bad.

How crass and insensitive. What about the people for whom this IS the rest of their life, unable to see their friends and family, ever again what about people who have faced.financial ruin? You're telling them it's not that that bad

This years another write off - it’s just 2 years of your life - it’s not that bad.

For some people, that’s hugely significant. Either the very start of their lives, or the very end, or two years that include significant milestones or life changing stuff going on. It might be the years when someone’s trying to escape domestic abuse, or needing to access ivf or picking themselves up after a traumatic event.

It’s not that bad for you

It’s shitty and dismissive of you to assume everyone else is in the same position.

It is the way to protect the majority because the whole point of the measures is to prevent the health service from becoming overwhelmed. If the health service collapses then it affects everyone

It staggers me that some people still dont get this

This years another write off - it’s just 2 years of your life - it’s not that bad

What a statement

@ Pink98 The Government has extended the legislation to July the 17th.

This does not mean it will be used. If cases are low, hospitalisation and ICU beds are available you will see regions going down tiers gradually.

The powers give councils to impose local lockdowns if cases flare up again in the next few months where the population is still being vaccinated and immunity being built.

In addition by that time, we will have data on how effective vaccines are
in the real world, how good are they are preventing transmission, what percentage of population needs to be vaccinated for herd immunity, etc.

I think it will end when people and businesses end it...

At this stage many of us have had enough and once the elderly and the vulnerable have had the vaccine (even the first dose only will give some protection) it becomes indefensible for this mess of the government to try to keep people locked in.

There is no justification not to go back to tiers in a couple of months.

Every time I go for my hour of exercise (I am in London) I can see more people out and groups mixing and the shops are always busy.

The minute the weather gets better, all this lockdown will fall apart further.

People will vote with their feet so to speak and will start mixing with other households and businesses will simply start defying the 'rules'. You can't put everyone in jail if the whole of the population said they have had enough.

I won't follow those rules beyond March.

And I should have added that once the elderly/vulnerable have the vaccine the argument about 'protecting the NHS' will become irrelevant as they are the ones that are more likely to end up in hospital,

The people suggesting that lockdowns could last '2 years' to me are simply insane...It is staggering that some people are so frightened and easily manipulated that they would be happy to give a failing government the right to control years of their lives in this way without any questions.

Ooooh look at all these rebels who ‘won’t follow rules beyond March’

Aren’t they special!

Aren’t they special!

What’s this supposed to add to the debate?

No ones saying they are special. They’re saying they’ve reached their limits.

I don’t see how people can ‘do their own thing’ or refuse to comply

Nothing is open! Mixing with others won’t be easy if the ‘others’ won’t join in either!

Just read in another thread about a determined mil who wanted her family round under the guise of ‘oh it will just be in the garden, that’s allowed’ then they just all went inside anyway. Yeah, she’s due to be buried this week.

Nothing is open! Mixing with others won’t be easy if the ‘others’ won’t join in either!

I’m finding ‘others’ pretty amenable. I was invited into 3 people’s houses this week when dropping stuff off.

These are people who were very strict first lock down. But they’ve had enough.

Before anyone loses it, I didn’t go in.

This years another write off - it’s just 2 years of your life - it’s not that bad.

Your life might be that boring that you're happy to write off two years but mine isn't!

Ooooh look at all these rebels who ‘won’t follow rules beyond March’

Aren’t they special!

Or maybe they think a year of their.life is.enough to give up? Or at the end of their rope?

I sadly fear the suicide stats after all this. And then I suppose all the power hungry Stasi types will start spouting #BeKind again

Third night of riots in the Netherlands
The fight back is well on the way

@Userzzz
This is the new normal. They’ll never stop the lockdowns...

150 years? Never is a long time.

@PinkSparklyPussyCat

This years another write off - it’s just 2 years of your life - it’s not that bad.

Your life might be that boring that you're happy to write off two years but mine isn't!

It's not even my life I'm worried about. Remember how long a year felt when you were a child? Children should not be condemned to this for years at a time.

Ooooh look at all these rebels who ‘won’t follow rules beyond March’

Aren’t they special

Fuck all to do with being special. People have given up enough. If some of you are happy to give up ANOTHER year of your lives then crack on, lots of us aren't, lots of us have given up enough already and we're done.

I can't believe how easily some people are giving up their lives. Oh it's just a year, oh it's just 2 years. Nobody is guaranteed tomorrow. I'm not giving up anything else.

At the start of the pandemic the WHO said multiple times that even with the rapid development of a vaccine we were looking at 18months to 2 years, so I'm not sure it is a surprise to anyone that restrictions might still be in place this summer.

People have given up enough

Who?
The nurses and paramedics

Have you really given as much as they have?

And if you decide to ignore the rules you are making thier load worse

The nurses and paramedics

Have you really given as much as they have?

I’m not sure why that’s relevant. It’s up to them how they want to manage their own situation.

From my POV, a health service that can only function by keeping me from seeing my elderly parents for months/years at a time, or keeping my six year old isolated from his peers and denied an education, isn’t fit for purpose.

That’s what needs to be solved and they’d be much better off doing that than keeping hordes of healthy people locked down like this.

I'm with you @LucilleTheVampireBat

I honestly think some LOVE this drama and not seeing their loved ones.

@TheKeatingFive

The nurses and paramedics

Have you really given as much as they have?

I’m not sure why that’s relevant. It’s up to them how they want to manage their own situation.

From my POV, a health service that can only function by keeping me from seeing my elderly parents for months/years at a time, or keeping my six year old isolated from his peers and denied an education, isn’t fit for purpose.

That’s what needs to be solved and they’d be much better off doing that than keeping hordes of healthy people locked down like this.

I agree. The millions being spent propping up the economy/paying for furlough should be pumped into the NHS so it IS fit for purpose. I doubt this will be the last pandemic sadly.

So when do you start your nursing training?