Schools and covid

[lambsandlion]

So for all of you pressing for schools to open fully. I now have tested positive after teaching a child identified with covid a few days before (yet still sent in to school) Is this o.k? Am I an acceptable casualty so that people don't have to home-school? and yes I do have children myself (and am home-schooling)

The difference between schools and other workplaces is the lack of social distancing in schools. It is impossible to do your properly if you social distance, in other jobs you can social distance and workplaces should be COVID secure (I know this may not be the case but should be)

I am so sorry you caught this from a child who most certainly shouldn’t have been in school op.
I hope it isn’t a serious case for you.
It absolutely isn’t ok.
I wonder if my 42 year old teacher friend, with no underlying health conditions and subsequently died from covid after an outbreak at her workplace, had posted this would some of these people replying think the way they had responded was ok.
Take it easy and I hope you feel better soon

Neither can nurseries, no ppe either or social distancing m.

@Lifeispassingby

The difference between schools and other workplaces is the lack of social distancing in schools. It is impossible to do your properly if you social distance, in other jobs you can social distance and workplaces should be COVID secure (I know this may not be the case but should be)

It's not working though. Hence cases are in double figures at my workplace.

It's a non-sequitur. Of course the child shouldn't have been sent to school and of course that's not okay. But it doesn't follow that 'schools must stay closed' for . And no-one wants Covid but it is still mild for most people, so calling yourself a 'casualty' is a little OTT if you yourself, like most people, have a mild case. It's endemic, I don't see how we can all avoid it - which is why vaccinating those most at risk then a gradual opening up is a sensible plan.

*My brother caught it at work, he fixes cars. Is it acceptable for him to catch it because people can’t fix their own cars?

My uncle works in construction, also caught it at work - is that an acceptable risk because people want to live in new build houses?

Local tesco express had an outbreak amongst staff too, why is that an acceptable risk so that people can still have food?*

While it clearly isn't ideal, all of these people can and should be wearing face coverings and social distancing to reduce the risk. Teachers are not able to do that.

Well it's not really acceptable that nursery staff have to go in with no social distancing, no ppe for close contact work.
And can I add that we are not all teens and young staff( myth that keeps being repeated on here) and we have had numerous cases at our nursery with staff and children so let's correct another myth that it's not spreading in nurseries IT IS.

So of course I feel for the teachers but at least your concerns are more listened to.
Nursery have been forgotten about also if we are sick we don't get paid.
And as I say this as a nursery worker currently awaiting the results of a covid test.

@Freddiefox

Nurseries are still open to all children, we provide personal and physical care. Why should a teacher get it before nursery staff?

You should get it as well. I was talking to a funeral director who had it the other day. He said that his union had campaigned for it.

@Waxonwaxoff0 (and anyone else who works in a factory): do you think there are any measures which your employer could realistically take to reduce the risk at your workplace? Or do you think the nature of the workplace means that there is nothing that can be done to make it safer without having a significant impact on productivity?

@DinosaurDiana thanks, we are often forgotten about.

@Ilovegreentomatoes

Well it's not really acceptable that nursery staff have to go in with no social distancing, no ppe for close contact work. And can I add that we are not all teens and young staff( myth that keeps being repeated on here) and we have had numerous cases at our nursery with staff and children so let's correct another myth that it's not spreading in nurseries IT IS.

This.. it is spreading.

In answer to the OP, I think it should be a criminal offence for parents to send a child into school if they are aware that the child is Covid-positive, or if the child should be self-isolating because someone else in the household is Covid positive.

'Whinging refusenik' thread - aka the science behind why it's a pants idea that will prolong lockdown

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/coronavirus/4144982-Headteachers-proposal

I don't think this is about schools being more risk than other jobs (work in a SEN school, no social distancing, all kids in, I want schools open ASAP!)
This is about people blatantly disregarding the rules. It's awful and why things aren't getting much better. The family should be fined and the child should now not be allowed to attend school until all children can go back.
This is the same in any work, people going to doctors, factories, supermarkets, take out cafes and offices when they have tested positive or have symptoms.

This thread is not about working conditions or levels of being Covid secure in factories or anywhere else, even schools!

It's selfish and disrespectful for a known case to be out in circulation.

Obviously, this could happen in a supermarket, or a factory or whatever. And it clearly, based on case numbers, is advertently happening all over the place (partially due to asymptomatic cases).

But in this case, parents who are too ignorant to think of others, knowingly put people at risk because they wanted their infectious child to be looked after by someone else! Despicable.

Did they actually send child to school after positive test?

Lots of people have caught from work and are you saying that all keyworkers and vunerable kids should be at home ? If so how are all the nurses etc able to work?
What is very wrong is that a parent sent in a child with symptoms and maybe we need fines to deter this.
Schools are closed for most and most of us are homeschooling , many of us having to go to work and take risks ourselves as well.

That's very selfish of the child's parents, and it's not okay at all. But at the same time, online education simply isn't feasible long term for many pupils and there are no alternatives to (eventually) reopening the schools.
We all face risks if we're key workers, visit public spaces etc. and unfortunately all we can do is try our best to social distance and follow the guidelines.

Also of course people are asking when schools may re open , same as when other things may be allowed as we are not leading normal lifes. People are struggling and want reassurance that maybe things will open, schools cannot be closed forever and will have to open , many work places cannot realistically sd and some that wear ppe , they may but the people they are seeing don't , no one is saying schools should go back tomorrow, but at sometime they will have to.

@lambsandlion unfortunately your plight falls on many deaf ears. Teachers are the devil here didn’t you know? Quite a few of us are on your side but as I’m sure you can read plain as day, a large portion couldn’t care any less as long as their DC are not at home inconveniencing them.

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Thick as pig shit these lot are. Stupid statement on all levels, thinking schools will be safe to reopen fully in February if all staff are vaccinated.

Of course it's not acceptable op. I'd happily fine the parents for such stupidity.

[quote LilyPond2]@Waxonwaxoff0 (and anyone else who works in a factory): do you think there are any measures which your employer could realistically take to reduce the risk at your workplace? Or do you think the nature of the workplace means that there is nothing that can be done to make it safer without having a significant impact on productivity?[/quote]
There's not really much else that can be done to be honest. We wear masks when moving around, we don't have to wear them at our work stations. Ventilation isn't really possible as there are no windows! We can have the doors open but it's absolutely freezing at this time of year. Social distancing isn't always possible as we make furniture and things like lifting and upholstering big sofas are a multiple person job.

Did the child actually test positive? You say identified, but what does that mean?