Nurse DMIL refusing to get vaccinated

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NC'd for this.

MIL, nurse, works in the hospital as a trainer, however often does overtime etc on wards.

She's VERY into healthy eating, exercise, vegan, and has refused to get the jab. Said she believes in the bodies power to fight virus itself. Doesn't take paracetamol etc as fever is good for the body to kill infection (I sort of see her point here but she is dead against it whatever the situation). She will often tell us our local hospital is fine and they're are only 2 cases, then the same day I see reports in our local paper saying they have upwards of 30+ and climbing deaths, that beds are nearly up to capacity.

I am really disappointed in her. She trains upwards of 30+ HCP's every day, all of whom then obviously go back to the wards.

Can she actually refuse? Is there anything I can do?

Correction, Countess is right, I should have said, "Previous posters are correct that the vaccines may not prevent you transmitting the virus" not do not. Here are two articles on transmission and the vaccine:
www.healthline.com/health-news/you-can-still-spread-develop-covid-19-after-getting-a-vaccine-what-to-know
www.fredhutch.org/en/news/center-news/2020/12/covid-19-vaccines-transmission.html

@ThornAmongstRoses
"Currently the train of thought is that the vaccine does not prevent an infected person from transmitting it others.

Ergo - her chance of transmitting Covid is just as likely if she had the vaccine than if she doesn’t. So what difference does it make?"

The emerging findings from the Israeli data given they are so far ahead is that it does prevent infection. Their infection rate has dropped rapidly (60%) even allowing for their restrictions so it does look positive. However, they are using Pfizer so it isn't proven the others do prevent it but seems likely

The emerging findings from the Israeli data given they are so far ahead is that it does prevent infection. Their infection rate has dropped rapidly (60%) even allowing for their restrictions so it does look positive. However, they are using Pfizer so it isn't proven the others do prevent it but seems likely

And are they giving the jabs three weeks apart or 12 weeks like we are?

@ThornAmongstRoses

3 weeks. However don't forget that the Oxford vaccine for some reason does have data supporting the 12 week interval. My understanding is the Pfizer one doesn't have such data from the trials

3 weeks. However don't forget that the Oxford vaccine for some reason does have data supporting the 12 week interval. My understanding is the Pfizer one doesn't have such data from the trials

So Israel is using the Pfizer vaccine correctly and seeing a drop in cases.

We however are not following the instructions of doses being given 3 weeks apart.

We can’t compare a country who is following the guidelines correctly, to our country who aren’t.

No, but we don't have to make up stories like "the vaccine will just mean you don't know you have it, so you go into work and infect everyone" on the basis of no evidence whatsoever just because the current evidence doesn't fit our situation exactly.

She can make her choice but you of course can make yours and refuse to see her or let your children see her. That is what I would be doing and also letting her know that.

@ThornAmongstRoses

"We can’t compare a country who is following the guidelines correctly, to our country who aren’t."

Well we can firstly as the vast majority of our vaccinations are from the Oxford stable. In respect of Pfizer, yes there isn't peer reviewed trials with three weeks but the scientific evidence is sufficient for the chief medical officers of all four nations of the U.K. to support doing this. However, if it is incorrect, then we will soon see that with deaths continuing in those having has the Pfizer vaccine.

Although I am not a doctorate expert on it, I understand that no one in the trials died of the virus once at two weeks..in fact those that died before were believed to have been infected before or literally around vaccination. That's a huge improvement

can she actually refuse? Is there anything I can do?

none of your business and nothing you can do. This is still a free country where people can decided if they want to have jabs. HTH