AIBU to think that these are the areas where people are ignoring lockdown

[desperadochilli]

Just 31 councils have a rising covid rate, I guess people aren't doing lockdown as effectively in those areas

Also we have none symptomatic testing centers everywhere. Most people I know are going for weekly tests. This is on the back of the Liverpool testing scheme. So that might make a difference.

Our area is on the "rising" list. Tbh, I don't really know if most people are following the rules because I don't go anywhere! I have spoken to a number of people who claim to have "bubbles" that they're not entitled to, though!

I'm in one of those councils, and I suggest you take a look at the rank at the end of the line beyond your screenshot. We've been right down the bottom, and still are, and our "rising" tag is cases by 1 extra case. 1, just 1. Before this set of figures came out, we were green for a long time.

If I go out, I see people wearing masks and being compliant, spraying trolley handles, using sanitiser, etc. It's so unusual to see someone who doesn't wear a mask inside a shop that it's noticeable. Our town is compliant, but there will be other factors involved.

So, OP, you can fuck off with your goady, simplistic claptrap.

Highest area in Scotland this week was an area in Edinburgh it was because of nursing homes in the area. Obviously due to lots of elderly vulnerable residents leaving the nursing homes going wild and having parties and not doing lockdown properly NOT.

@SchrodingersImmigrant

What lockdown though. 🤷🏻 This is not a lockdown. This is disorganised mess. There is basically same traffic around me (road to school so quite busy at times) like outside of lockdown. Maybe 25% less. That's not lockdown...

We can’t go to most shops, hairdressers, beauty salons, restaurants, pubs, cinemas, soft plays or museums. We can’t go to someone else’s house or even see more then one person, and if we see a person we can’t hug them. Most children can’t attend school.

But there are cars on the road, so must be normal life, hey?

The area I live in is in the list and tbh it doesn't surprise me. Yesterday whilst coming back from my weekly shopping trip I saw whole families ie mum dad and kids all shopping together. People still wearing masks just over mouth, people in groups all standing in close contact outside no masks and even saw whilst sat at traffic lights a small takeaway shop with customers crammed in no social distancing. I think alot of people do not care anymore and are just doing what the hell they like.

No one round here is ignoring lockdown. We are a London borough with a very high rate, now rapidly declining. It's a densely populated area with construction, takeaways, hospitals, schools all contributing to December infection, which then spreads exponentially within households to infect others who don't work in construction, hospitals or use schools.
No one is breaking any rules.

I’m in one of those areas. People seem to be following the rules much better this time than before, when they really weren’t.

It's not as simple as that... it really isn't. Multiple factors cause rising Covid rates; most significant at the moment is the rising spread in both care homes and hospitals (estimated to currently account for 50% of transmission) . It really isn't as straightforward as looking at the data and saying that's where the bad people are.

It's great that you're interested though - maybe try to look into it a bit further. Might there be other reasons for higher transmission? If it is people not adhering to the rules, why might that be? People are inherently the same, what might be causing lesser rates of compliance in these particular geographical areas?

If you're really interested in the answer to this question that's the sort of thing you might like to look at. You have made a very good point with your post.

@modgepodge I am not saying it's normal life, because it isn't, but it's not what should be called "lockdown" imho.

The area I live in is on that list. Not surprised the cases are rising, with the amount of houses around us having regular visitors! I posted the other day about one set of neighbours having a group of people on their garden.

Really twatty post

@modgepodge We can’t go to someone else’s house or even see more then one person

Sadly this seemingly doesn't apply to my neighbourhood! You'd think life was near enough normal if you lived on my street.

I live in one of these areas and I couldn't tell you if people are following lockdown because I haven't left the house 😂 So your guess is as good as mine 🤷‍♀️

(I'm joking of course, I've been for a walk and to take my baby for her jabs)

Plymouth has had high figures before because of naval ships arriving with cases on board. No idea whether that is the case at the moment, but we were still well below England average last time I looked.

Not as many people who gained immunity by catching it last year as other areas, perhaps? Everyone seems to be behaving round my way.

Leicester has introduced asymptomatic testing too, you can just pop along to a testing centre once every 2 weeks if you want a test, also doing door to door testing in areas with higher cases to catch as many as possible. It would be interesting to understand the number of tests delivered and positivity rate for those areas compared to the ones falling.

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Constant reminders that people aren't obliged to THINK before they post.

@Iremembertheelderlykoreanlady

I'm not surprised to see Leicester on that list. They've never been out of lockdown/tier 3 not even last summer.

I imagine a lot of people there who were following the rules before have just said "fuck it" now. Feel really sorry for them tbh

Leicester does a lot of community testing.It's not surprising they are finding more cases.

There are LF testing hubs and also door to door PCR testing offered to anyone who wants one. Even if they have no symptoms.

I can't actually see the areas, but I suppose it's because they locked down before the peak in those areas. It will be a later, shorter and slower peak compared to, foe example, London

Life in different areas is not of equal risk.
Some neighbourhoods are more suceptible because of HMOs/ over crowding/ multigenerational living, insufficient space to isolate or social distance, small kitchens/ low budgets meaning people have to shop in person frequently, lack of open public space, narrow pavements, high use of public transport, higher rates of poor health, higher risk occupations, people being unable to afford to isolate if required.

Many, many reasons, mostly within the rules or just trying to keep on living in challenging circumstances.

I see Solihull is on the list. There has been a covid outbreak at the jaguar Landrover factory there. So people just having to go to work.

I live in one of those areas and I don't think people are not following rules. I go out to work (at a hospital)and for shopping and I don't think I ever see anyone not wearing masks, I don't see lots of people out either.

We had very low cases in the first wave though, perhaps this has some impact?

@desperadochilli, please could you post a link to the graphic you've used? It's too tiny to read on the laptop, and I couldn't find it by googling.

Thanks.

And yes, context is everything. There have been a lot of cases at a nearby school, which has sent the rate for that bit of the district soaring. In almost every other part, the rate has been falling for weeks, but one event like that can really skew the figures.

And I agree with a PP about prisons, I'm convinced that the reason Sheppey was so badly affected was because there are 3 prisons there, and I've seen another area in my county that's rural but has a prison, and a high rate of infection. Prison officers can't socially distance and neither can prisoners. If staff get infected, there's every likelihood they take it home to their families before they show symptoms so there's likely to be some community spread, no matter how careful they are.

It's from www.covidmessenger.com

@desperadochilli

It's from www.covidmessenger.com

I think your thread title is deliberately goady.