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Ice cream testing positive

44 replies

Butterflyfluff · 16/01/2021 13:10

There’s several reports of a batch of ice cream from China testing positive

I’m not alarmist but this does worry me - why was it even tested and what are the implications?

Could you catch it from eating contaminated food?

If so why isn’t more food being tested?

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doireallyneedaname · 16/01/2021 13:15

Makes sense to me. If a factory worker contaminated something frozen, I expect a virus would live in those conditions for some time.

tessiegirl · 16/01/2021 13:27

Oh for fucks sake. Really???

LIZS · 16/01/2021 13:28

"Reports"? Hmm

Butterflyfluff · 16/01/2021 13:30

@LIZS

"Reports"? Hmm
Yes - reports 🤔

news.sky.com/story/covid-19-ice-cream-tests-positive-for-coronavirus-in-china-12188761

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Butterflyfluff · 16/01/2021 13:31

www.foxnews.com/world/chinese-ice-cream-contaminated-covid-19

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sashagabadon · 16/01/2021 13:32

That does sounds bonkers to me?
Why would you even be testing ice cream in the first place?! I wonder if food items routinely tested in China?

Horehound · 16/01/2021 13:32

Also the lab tester could've been positive infecting the samples! Just a thought.

HerrWanksock · 16/01/2021 13:41

Interesting, so Tanzania's President halts Covid testing after a goat and a pawpaw test positive because he's worried that the PCR might actually be a pile of junk. Tanzania pretty much back to normal life now btw. But instead you would rather think that it's because Covid can now be transmitted by food, and your source for this is that great propaganda misinformation machine aka the CCP.

PicsInRed · 16/01/2021 13:43

China's been claiming they aren't the source of covid and one of their claims was that it may have entered China originally through contaminated frozen food. Or something. Hmm

China only releases to outsiders the "information" they want received. I would ascribe precisely that much value to this.

Butterflyfluff · 16/01/2021 13:45

But instead you would rather think that it's because Covid can now be transmitted by food

Try reading what I wrote

I asked if it could be transmitted by food and why it would have been tested in the first place

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OppsUpsSide · 16/01/2021 13:47

Tanzania and the CCP? I thought this was about China and icecream? What even is the CCP?

Actually, I’m not sure I care. I just want icecream now.

Scottishskifun · 16/01/2021 13:55

There are many factors at play here from manufacturing to shipping handling or laboratory contamination of samples or even just being in a lab with poor ventilation when the sample was collected.

It's just a headline story of which there are many and doesn't take into consideration viral load or anything else for that matter. They have found that the virus survives better in colder environments that's true and on surfaces in colder environments. Don't get suckered in!

mrshonda · 16/01/2021 13:55

Is it possible that the contamination was on the packaging rather than the contents? The article just states 'icecream' without being more specific. China has tested packaging before, particularly when imported frozen salmon was found to have traces of virus on the packaging (this was back in the summer).

Scottishskifun · 16/01/2021 14:03

@Butterflyfluff

But instead you would rather think that it's because Covid can now be transmitted by food

Try reading what I wrote

I asked if it could be transmitted by food and why it would have been tested in the first place

China has a history of poor food controls and manufacturing issues - contaminated baby milk being one of the most well known! They now do a lot of food testing.

The virus has been shown to survive on all sorts of things but laboratory testing for presence is different from viral load and transmission. E.g laboratory conditions showed 3 day presence on different surfaces but other external factors such as sunlight and temperature in real life settings show the time period to be much lower (hours rather then days).

So very very unlikely that consuming a food product will cause transmission as said presence is different from viral load (the quantity needed to infect someone) and transmission (ability to spread)

Sofia2020 · 16/01/2021 14:05

@OppsUpsSide the Chinese Communist Party

ithinkyouareveryrude · 16/01/2021 14:07

Until this has been confirmed by the WHO or a similar body I wouldn't even pay it attention.

There has not been a single instance of reporting food can transmit the virus in the UK, focus on that instead and try not to worry.

inquietant · 16/01/2021 14:09

If the virus was in ice cream, the fact is was frozen would presumably mean it could be tested.

But that doesn't mean it is a transmission risk?

But I have no clue why it was tested!!

FlyMyPrettiesFly · 16/01/2021 14:11

The scientist in the article seems pretty chilled about it all (no pun intended). Nothing to see here.

Jakey056 · 16/01/2021 14:13

Common sense has left the building.
The virus cannot survive being frozen.

inquietant · 16/01/2021 14:13

Also I think you can find it in a test, even when not viable any more.

inquietant · 16/01/2021 14:15

@Jakey056

Common sense has left the building. The virus cannot survive being frozen.
Viruses still exist after being frozen, that doesn't mean it can infect you.
Butterflyfluff · 16/01/2021 14:21

Common sense has left the building.
The virus cannot survive being frozen.

Are you a scientist - do you know that for sure?

Isn’t the vaccine frozen?

Why can’t the virus survive freezing?

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Scottishskifun · 16/01/2021 14:26

@Butterflyfluff I can't work out if your worried or just scare mongering?! A virologist in the "news article" has explained it they definitely are a scientist.

The vaccine which has to be kept at - 70 due to the nature of the products its an RNA based vaccine.

I suggest that you ignore the article, have some common sense and follow the things you can do to prevent yourself from catching or spreading the virus which is wash hands, keep your distance, ventilate indoor areas and wear a mask in indoor settings which require it.