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Ice cream testing positive

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Butterflyfluff · 16/01/2021 13:10

There’s several reports of a batch of ice cream from China testing positive

I’m not alarmist but this does worry me - why was it even tested and what are the implications?

Could you catch it from eating contaminated food?

If so why isn’t more food being tested?

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Akire · 16/01/2021 14:26

Heard this on the radio, didn’t understand why would test food but they mentioned it survived because high fat content and freezing the virus doesn’t kill it off. Not sure how much you would have to eat to catch it. Maybe it’s a could get eaten and survived in theory therefore has to be destroyed rather than a high risk.

inquietant · 16/01/2021 14:26

According to Dr Google, coronaviruses survive up to two years in temps down to -20

I only did a little light searching, before anyone asks for peer-reviewed journals Grin

Carolofthebellies · 16/01/2021 14:28

Does it mean they test all products for Covid19? Sounds suspicious.

inquietant · 16/01/2021 14:28

Im not suggesting it is something to worry about, just in answer to the question.

I'm not personally changing my ice cream eating regime.

doublehalo · 16/01/2021 14:33

That's a reflection of how inaccurate the PCR test is.

Even if someone had sneezed on a batch of ice cream, the virus can't replicate outside of a cell so it wouldn't have grown and multiplied to infect a whole batch.

doublehalo · 16/01/2021 14:34

FYI lots of things have been tested and shown positive for covid using the PCR tests. They're a bit crap.

Watsername · 16/01/2021 14:38

Surely this is more a reflection on the inaccuracy of the PCR tests....?

DameFanny · 16/01/2021 14:51

@HerrWanksock

Interesting, so Tanzania's President halts Covid testing after a goat and a pawpaw test positive because he's worried that the PCR might actually be a pile of junk. Tanzania pretty much back to normal life now btw. But instead you would rather think that it's because Covid can now be transmitted by food, and your source for this is that great propaganda misinformation machine aka the CCP.
Absolute bollocks again. It's not PCR testing that's filing the hospitals and the morgues.

Why on earth do you lot persist with this bullshit?

DameFanny · 16/01/2021 14:54

@Jakey056

Common sense has left the building. The virus cannot survive being frozen.
Again, no. Viruses and bacteria can survive being frozen - it's been mooted that we'll be getting more pandemics as the permafrost melts and releases bugs we've not seen for thousands of years. Such fun...
inquietant · 16/01/2021 14:59

it's been mooted that we'll be getting more pandemics as the permafrost melts and releases bugs we've not seen for thousands of years. Such fun...

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Akire · 16/01/2021 15:02

Well it did survive that’s how they found it. Though 4500 tubs of ice cream would suggest someone is deliberately doing something it’s not like a random sneeze would be enough.

Butterflyfluff · 16/01/2021 16:27

I can't work out if your worried or just scare mongering?!

As I said in the OP, I’d like to understand what the implications for this are

Why was it tested for coronavirus and can you get it from eating contaminated food?

As ‘normal’ transmission is not from ingesting it then is it a problem if it’s present in food?

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inquietant · 16/01/2021 17:16

@Akire

Well it did survive that’s how they found it. Though 4500 tubs of ice cream would suggest someone is deliberately doing something it’s not like a random sneeze would be enough.
Survive to be detected by a test is different to survive in a form able to infect a host.
Jakey056 · 16/01/2021 17:37

@Butterflyfluff

I can't work out if your worried or just scare mongering?!

As I said in the OP, I’d like to understand what the implications for this are

Why was it tested for coronavirus and can you get it from eating contaminated food?

As ‘normal’ transmission is not from ingesting it then is it a problem if it’s present in food?

In all of the millions of infections of corona we hear of none coming from food contamination. On another thread yesterday we had someone losing her mind about infection in supermarkets.... Really. Can people not logically assess risk and get on with living??? If we knew how many viruses and bacteria we encounter every day in our immune system that we never know about it would blow most peoples minds. People look for stuff to worry about despite the risk being tiny.
Scottishskifun · 16/01/2021 18:16

@Butterflyfluff

I can't work out if your worried or just scare mongering?!

As I said in the OP, I’d like to understand what the implications for this are

Why was it tested for coronavirus and can you get it from eating contaminated food?

As ‘normal’ transmission is not from ingesting it then is it a problem if it’s present in food?

I've already answered this but here goes again.... Implications..... About zero as not really a source something being present is not the same thing as being transmisable or enough of a viral load.

As said China has a history of poor food controls and manufacturing and often now test products, its also standard of random food sampling checks. If they knew there was an outbreak depending on the workers job they then decided to test the product as well. Its not unusual for testing to occur routine and non routine in all food productions. China is also very strict at controls and locking down so probably tested because of the worker.

Again viral load is unknown there is a big difference between presence of something and that containing enough viral load to infect people and again transmission is separate from viral load or infection. There has not been any reported cases as a result of ingestion of a food product.

It is not possible for food product to be a transmission once that product is consumed that it...... Therefore no transmission.

samanthawashington · 16/01/2021 18:32

We don't import ice cream from China do we?

Butterflyfluff · 16/01/2021 18:44

@samanthawashington

We don't import ice cream from China do we?
I don’t think so, it was more the principle I was interested in

It seems it’s a bit of a non-story though thankfully

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2bazookas · 16/01/2021 18:50

You are being alarmist. You're not in China so you can't catch CV from their icecream.

It's normal for food factories to constantly safety=test their products; China does it and so does UK.

GeorgiaGirl52 · 16/01/2021 19:10

China. The country that exported:

  • Apple juice for infants that contained no apples or apple products.
  • Dog food made from poisoned bone meal that killed many dogs before it was detected.
  • Linoleum and wood laminate sealed with a poisonous resin that could be transmitted to crawling children and small animals through touch and/or fumes.
  • cheap plastic toys that fill our landfills.
Never buy anything from China if you have any other option.
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