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Older vaccinated people and shopping

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likeamillpond · 14/01/2021 17:45

My Father had his first vacine last week and now wants me to start taking him to the supermarket to do his shopping.
I have been doing all of his shoppuing for him since the first lockdown.
I'm usually in and out in less than 30 mins, having done his and my shopping. I'm also extremely careful.
He usually takes an hour minimum.

He's now informed me that he wants to resume shopping himself (with me taking him) because
" I've had my jab and I'm 70% safe now"

AIBU to feel a bit miffed that he doesn't care or it hasn't clicked, that by wandering round the supermarket he will be putting my health at risk (I'm fifties so not vacinated yet)

I understand that elderly people are desperate to get out now, but something doesn't sit right.
People have worked really hard to protecf their elderly relative.s.
ItAIBU to want to have the same consideration shown to me? To just wait a few more weeks until ive had my vaccinations.

Anybody else with this same problem?

OP posts:
Chouxbuncity · 14/01/2021 19:39

If he’s just had first jab then I’d say no. If he can get there himself then obviously it’s his choice. Children are missing out on their education to protect the elderly. The least they can do is do their bit.

TheGoodEnoughWife · 14/01/2021 19:44

@Chouxbuncity

If he’s just had first jab then I’d say no. If he can get there himself then obviously it’s his choice. Children are missing out on their education to protect the elderly. The least they can do is do their bit.
Children are missing their education to protect the NHS. This person should have just as much right to shop as you do, as anyone does.
WaxOnFeckOff · 14/01/2021 19:51

If he’s just had first jab then I’d say no.

And who are you to say no to a competent adult doing a perfectly legal activity?

Missfelipe · 14/01/2021 20:40

What about the people in younger age groups that end up with complications from long COVID? As long as there is a question about transmission after vaccination I think everyone should do what they can to avoid causing damage to other people. Not sure I want to end up with a debilitating illness because someone who has lived a full life wants to pop out and about.

TheGoodEnoughWife · 14/01/2021 20:49

@Missfelipe

What about the people in younger age groups that end up with complications from long COVID? As long as there is a question about transmission after vaccination I think everyone should do what they can to avoid causing damage to other people. Not sure I want to end up with a debilitating illness because someone who has lived a full life wants to pop out and about.
He doesn't want to pop about, he wants to do his own shopping!
Chouxbuncity · 14/01/2021 21:32

@WaxOnFeckOff

He wants a lift! Not so independent!

Rinoachicken · 14/01/2021 21:33

I read on the BBC there there has been a rush of elderly people booking holidays now they are vaccinated. I have to admit it did make me feel a bit Hmm when I read this:

“Dawn and Ray - 75 and 78 years old - are from Hampshire and are due to have their first jab soon. They have just booked five UK holidays.

"We are raring to go once we've got that vaccine, we are really looking forward to it - both of us. We are going to Wales, Leicestershire, to York where there is a mystery tour - and to the Cotswolds'", Dawn said.”

Like others have said, the country has pretty much stopped to protect them (not only them but they have been high up on the list of who needs to be protected), and now they are off around the country on their jollies and fuck the rest of us?

Barbadosgirl · 14/01/2021 21:50

@notalwaysalondoner

To look at it from another perspective - these people are extremely elderly (you don't say how old your father is but I guess over 80 due to the priority list), have largely put their lives on hold for nearly a year, and have a lot less time left than most of us. Maybe they just want to get back to a sense of normality and are comfortable with the 70% risk. I know you can say that's selfish and they should be thinking about the risk of infecting others, but at that age they probably want to make the most of the time they have left being able to actually do things like go to the supermarket and play poker...

I don't think I could refuse, just explain the risks, and drop him off (not go in with him).

Sure. But when younger people do this they are selfish, granny killers and are responsible for spreading the virus. There is no evidence yet that the vaccine stops transmission or that one dose of the vaccine makes you invincible. Kids should not have to forgo chunks of their childhood, the NHS workers cripple themselves working 24/7 and working people have to pay for it until they are in their 80s so these men can have a jolly while the nation is locked down!
Barbadosgirl · 14/01/2021 21:56

@Rinoachicken

I read on the BBC there there has been a rush of elderly people booking holidays now they are vaccinated. I have to admit it did make me feel a bit Hmm when I read this:

“Dawn and Ray - 75 and 78 years old - are from Hampshire and are due to have their first jab soon. They have just booked five UK holidays.

"We are raring to go once we've got that vaccine, we are really looking forward to it - both of us. We are going to Wales, Leicestershire, to York where there is a mystery tour - and to the Cotswolds'", Dawn said.”

Like others have said, the country has pretty much stopped to protect them (not only them but they have been high up on the list of who needs to be protected), and now they are off around the country on their jollies and fuck the rest of us?

Raring to go. Good. Good. Can my son go back to school/generally have a childhood before Dawn and Ray go on their jolly?!
Riv12345 · 14/01/2021 21:57

I had covid vaccine and tested positive for covid a week later!!!

lljkk · 14/01/2021 21:59

I'd be a geriatric raver post a vaccine too, if I could...

tbh, it just fuels my anti-Lockdown instincts.

Variants that defeat the vaccine?

Early vaccine recipients thinking they are now exempt from rules but might actually still be very vulnerable to the disease?

Having to accept that some deaths going forward will always happen?

"safe" Herd immunity is effectively impossible and lots of people will lose immunity by not getting their boosters in years to come?

You don't say. Gee whiz. Who would have predicted all that -- other than anybody who thought about it all.

Cheesypea · 14/01/2021 22:01

The supermarkets are banning people shopping together. Do you live together? If so could you go to a street market?/ have a walk?

MrsMiaWallis · 14/01/2021 22:01

If the people who have had the vaccine carry on socially distancing and wearing masks then there shouldn't be an issue.

MrsShelton · 14/01/2021 22:02

they have booked 5 UK holidays? but everything might still be shut! thats no holiday

WaxOnFeckOff · 14/01/2021 22:07

[quote Chouxbuncity]@WaxOnFeckOff

He wants a lift! Not so independent![/quote]
And your point is?

So blind people or someone with arthritis or a physical disability aren't allowed to shop just cause they may need a lift to the shop? FFS

MrsMiaWallis · 14/01/2021 22:08

So blind people or someone with arthritis or a physical disability aren't allowed to shop just cause they may need a lift to the shop? FFS

No, people with carers are allowed in together.

WaxOnFeckOff · 14/01/2021 22:11

@MrsMiaWallis

So blind people or someone with arthritis or a physical disability aren't allowed to shop just cause they may need a lift to the shop? FFS

No, people with carers are allowed in together.

Christ I wasn't being literal, i was answering the poster that seemed to think that requiring a lift rendered the OPs dad unable to decide he'd like to do his own shopping.
QueenPawPaws · 14/01/2021 22:20

@Uhtredswoman guidance is still to shield after the vaccine

Older vaccinated people and shopping
DianaT1969 · 14/01/2021 22:21

Your dad going to the supermarket once a week with his mask on is a drop in the ocean compared to children and teachers mixing in schools everyday, or people travelling on crowded tubes in London. Not to mention factory workers, shop staff, construction workers.... Can we keep occasional trips to the supermarket by people who have been vaccinated in perspective please?

Heatherjayne1972 · 14/01/2021 22:23

I have said exactly this today
We will get to the point where half the population is vaccinated and they will decide to ditch the masks and social distancing

Chaos will happen

TildaKauskumholm · 14/01/2021 22:31

Selfish not to wait the required period for the vaccine to take effect, given that most of us in other age groups are going to great lengths to take all the necessary precautions.

hopsalong · 14/01/2021 22:31

Bloody hell. He's probably been looking forward to getting to do his own shopping for most of the last year. Let him!

We've absolutely been locking down to protect the elderly. Once they're protected (and he does need to wait for the vaccine to kick in) we all need to stop. Middle-aged people didn't stay at home before 2020 to avoid viruses or car accidents or being murdered in the street. The risk of long Covid is real (BMJ estimates 10% after 12 weeks) but small. And that requires catching it in the first place, which the vast majority has avoided doing over the last year (despite several periods with no or very lax restrictions). Besides, many of that

MrsFezziwig · 14/01/2021 22:38

I find it ironic that people are complaining this man is selfish, when for months Mumsnet has been full of posters saying that because they feel they are only at minor risk they will continue to do what they like (and because there is no risk to their children, it’s fine for schools to remain open with minimal safety precautions ?).

Chouxbuncity · 14/01/2021 22:43

He is ‘allowed’ to shop but he’s unnecessarily putting his daughter at risk by going in the car with her and also hasn’t waited the required time after the vaccine. His daughter doesn’t feel happy with that so she’s entitled to say no to giving him a lift.

Chouxbuncity · 14/01/2021 22:44

@MrsFezziwig

Being denied an education isn’t really the same as someone being kind enough to do your shopping for you!