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Next announcement from Boris

376 replies

whoamitojudge · 09/01/2021 16:11

Does anyone know when it is?
With all this new talk of this current lockdown not being enough I just wondered if maybe he’d step up and say something

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MaudesMum · 09/01/2021 20:34

Stopping support bubbles at this time of year would be inhumane. At least in March/April the weather was better, so there was a possibility of being able to chat to neighbours over the fence and so on. At this time of year you're basically condemning anyone who lives by themselves to solitary confinement.

AnxiousAlpaca · 09/01/2021 20:35

@Kazzyhoward takeaway delivered to the home never closed during the first lockdown did it? Perhaps it did I genuinely can’t remember.

missymoomoomoomoomoo · 09/01/2021 20:35

I do agree with restricting back to only one person in shops and not groups. Although supermarkets do need to understand that I cant tie my DS up outside.

StealthPolarBear · 09/01/2021 20:35

And yes surely you can't have a childcare bubble and a baby under one bubble?

StealthPolarBear · 09/01/2021 20:36

[quote AnxiousAlpaca]@Kazzyhoward takeaway delivered to the home never closed during the first lockdown did it? Perhaps it did I genuinely can’t remember.[/quote]
We tried to get a takeaway on the 20th April last year - I remember the date as it was my gran dad's funeral. They failed to deliver but in theory they were open.

perditaplum · 09/01/2021 20:37

They need to work out what is going to happen about energy bills if people are going to be made to work from home. My energy bill is going to rocket now my DCs are home from school if this cold weather carries on, I've had the heating on for most of each day this week which normally wouldn't happen at all.

Garden centres need to be closed IMO but there should be one hardware store allowed to open in each town for DIY emergencies.

Playgrounds were closed last time I think but now they are still open aren't they? It's ridiculous that they are open when tennis clubs and golf clubs have to close. Our local golf course has opened up a pop up cafe and is letting people use the golf course for exercise but they are not allowed to open for golf. If playgrounds can open then so should tennis courts in local parks.

@Reallybadidea masks aren't needed in all work places. Some are naturally covid safe, primary schools for example. Or so the government used to tell us.

@MummaBear4321 Assuming your marriage is good then you have your DH, you don't need a support bubble. Some people have no DH, no adult children at home and are really alone. Since March last year I have had no time at all with any support bubble and have had no social life whatsoever because I haven't been able to form a support bubble. It's not been easy.

I think Takeaways might stop too, the Telegraph was running an article about if they were safe or not and giving advice for having a safe takeaway. I think we might have one as a treat tomorrow rather than waiting until the birthday we have next week. Maybe Takeaways will become home delivery only.

I wouldn't be at all keen on a curfew, I walk home from work in the dark at a time when most people are having dinner/relaxing after dinner and the streets are quiet as it is, if there was a curfew and
the only people likely to be out were the more unsavoury types I'd be at risk more than when a few joggers/runners are out and about.

QuitMoaning · 09/01/2021 20:40

@Kazzyhoward
But they're not essential are they? I can just about understand key workers etc needing a takeaway on their way to/from work due to lack of time, etc. But not at all sure why a full on family takeaway is "essential" given the seriousness of the pandemic. Most takeaways weren't open at the start of the first lockdown and people managed. A temporary closure of them for a few weeks may well drive home the message for people not to socialise and party.

Define “essential”. Pretty essential for the staff who work there. Why close them and put more people without income?
And most takeaways were open all the time in the first lockdown so your statement is wrong.
I really don’t think Takeaways are the issue at the moment.

Toocold · 09/01/2021 20:42

Take aways were open last time, why do people want play parks to shut? Barely any one there, it’s freezing! Most people are at home due to the weather surely, I’ve never seen anyone disregarding the masks unless wearing a lanyard, everyone is at least trying to socially distance and no parties here. I assume the massive rise is the Christmas mixing that the government allowed but are now massively back tracking. Boris is talking about the vaccines on Monday as far as I’m aware. Taking away support bubbles would be extremely cruel and I think some of you need to have a think about how you’d feel in certain circumstances.

CatAndHisKit · 09/01/2021 20:42

One thing that's obviously wrong is allowing football / group games in parks! also playgrounds.

XenoBitch · 09/01/2021 20:42

@RedskyAtnight

Agree about not allowing multiple bubbles and people stretching the restrictions to the limit.

It's perfectly legal to have a support bubble, a childcare bubble, a "baby under 1" bubble and to go walking twice a day with a different person every time (where realistically, if you're chatting, you are closer to them than you think). However, the spirit of the restrictions is that we all minimise contacts, and really we should all be trying to do this.

The "baby under 1" bubble is a support bubble. They just widened the criteria as to who was allowed a support bubble.
Toocold · 09/01/2021 20:43

Why oh why does everyone calling for an extreme lock down not realise we need a sodding economy to pay for the NHS!

CatAndHisKit · 09/01/2021 20:43

They won't take away support bublles. Rightly so, I mean.

Passthecake30 · 09/01/2021 20:43

@RedskyAtnight get that car out for a drive! I had to call out the AA for mine in the first lockdown, after it sat on the driveway for a few weeks. A battery charger didn’t help - I needed a new battery. I was advised that it needs a 30min drive once a week.

Toocold · 09/01/2021 20:44

Again, have those that want playgrounds shut seen crowded ones in the freezing cold?! I don’t think you have.

Rawrsome13 · 09/01/2021 20:45

Anyone advocating for school/nursery places being limited to 2 critical worker parents is really not taking into account that in many families with only 1 critical worker, it is likely that person who would be forced to take unpaid leave in the event of school/childcare closing.

I work in intensive care but by husband is an accountant. If one of us had to take unpaid leave to look after our baby then it would very definitely be me as we wouldn't be able to afford our mortgage without his salary. I know a lot of other London based NHS staff in the same position.

RedskyAtnight · 09/01/2021 20:45

[quote Passthecake30]@RedskyAtnight get that car out for a drive! I had to call out the AA for mine in the first lockdown, after it sat on the driveway for a few weeks. A battery charger didn’t help - I needed a new battery. I was advised that it needs a 30min drive once a week.[/quote]
I wasn't the poster who was worried about their car (though in fact we've had to resort to a battery charger a couple of times since March as the car is now used so infrequently).

XenoBitch · 09/01/2021 20:47

A few people suggested a curfew here. So, where is the science behind curfews that would suggest they would help? Because the only reasons people have posted for having them is that it makes things easier for the police to monitor people.... which is absolutely chilling.

PinkSparklyPussyCat · 09/01/2021 20:48

[quote Passthecake30]@RedskyAtnight get that car out for a drive! I had to call out the AA for mine in the first lockdown, after it sat on the driveway for a few weeks. A battery charger didn’t help - I needed a new battery. I was advised that it needs a 30min drive once a week.[/quote]
That was me! It should be ok as it's a new car but I don't want to risk it not starting in case I need it. I'm just worried about being stopped. The car is on the road so I can't use a battery charger so I might get my elderly uncle some shopping and drop it off on his doorstep so I've got a valid reason if I'm stopped!

DayBath · 09/01/2021 20:49

I don't think any new restrictions will be announced Monday (although I think they should be). My bet is some sort of catchy headline grabbing vaccine update. A new schedule including various essential workers from the under 50 group as being a bit further up the queue. Some empty promises about achieving it all by summer and a lot of head scratching from the poor buggers in charge of actually rolling it all out as they try to keep up with the government's latest changed goalposts.

Tiquismiquis · 09/01/2021 20:50

It would be cruel to shut playgrounds. It’s the only bloody thing left for children. There are other areas of the economy that could be restricted if needed like takeaways, construction, work in home etc. I wouldn’t reduce school places for one key worker but I’d require a bit more of a process of asking what both parents are doing. There are a few people in our school that I think are taking the piss a bit (eg where one parent is a sahm). I know people who are working in accounts in non-essential sectors who have been pressured into saying they’re essential workers.

benedicto · 09/01/2021 20:51

@Nowmum43

I don't think this lockdown has been given enough chance to work. Surely all the deaths and cases are from the Christmas mixing? That lots of people seemed to still do seeing people the whole week and not just Christmas Day!
I think this is correct. It is far too early to see the effects of the lockdown so far.

Currently we are only seeing the effects of the government-approved mixing of households on Christmas day (44% of the population did this apparently). The government need to take responsibility for this instead of claiming that today's rise in hospitalisations is due to the people taking outdoor exercise (which generates no profit or tax revenue, unlike the totally unnecessary open hospitality venues still open that are causing significant numbers of staff to use public transport in urban areas, plus causing unnecessary exposure of those staff, and unnecessary journeys of the customers).

cardibach · 09/01/2021 20:51

[quote minisoksmakehardwork]@cardibach - so you chose to find a loop hole, which is what lots of people are doing.

I wonder why we continue to have lockdowns? [/quote]
No. It wasn’t a loophole. It was the rules. I hadn’t seen anyone. Anyone. For the whole of lockdown until that was allowed. You are fucking unreasonable and heartless in suggesting I was dodging the rules or in any way responsible for more infection. You fucking horrible person.
I followed the rules. The rules were more dangerous than if I hadn’t followed the rules. Are you fucking clueless?
You make me so fucking angry. I have booked no rules and looked for no loopholes this whole time. How fucking thoughtless.

RedskyAtnight · 09/01/2021 20:51

So, where is the science behind curfews that would suggest they would help?

If you have to be in your house, then you can't be out mixing with anyone else? Fairly sure the science says that not mixing means you can't spread infection.

avocadoinasidecar · 09/01/2021 20:51

I needed a new battery. I was advised that it needs a 30min drive once a week.

My car hasn't had that in the 3 years that I've owned it and I've never needed a new battery for it.

Tiquismiquis · 09/01/2021 20:53

And I agree with Rawrsome13. If it came down to it, it would be me as the critical worker that would be not working properly/need to stop and not my husband whose wage is the one who pays the mortgage. It comes down to basic finance really.