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To think vaccinations should be 24/7

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notevenat20 · 09/01/2021 08:27

I have become quite agitated by the speed of our vaccination program compared to the speed of transmission of the new variant. I read the plan is to vaccinate 8am to 8pm. But given the emergency that sounds to me like a firefighter putting out flames 8am-8pm. It’s not enough is it?

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thatgingergirl · 09/01/2021 14:44

Alfaix - I take it you're volunteering, or doing over and above your usual job/hours. Thank you.

Alfaix · 09/01/2021 14:51

Yes my day job is a dentist but I only work part time. DS has 3 days in school sorted so I will be doing a session on one of them vaccinating. It feels like a positive step and if all dentists did one or two sessions a month we’d be doing really well. There are over 40000 on the register.

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notevenat20 · 09/01/2021 15:15

What do you think is the advantage then of vaccinating at night instead of just giving the vaccines from additional locations during the daytime?

If we have the space and all the people who might have been willing to vaccinate at night are willing to vaccinate in the day instead, then great. But you have to be careful with his argument as you can use it to persuade yourself that we could vaccine for one hour a day only, which would be a mistake.

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Heartlantern2 · 09/01/2021 15:18

I think you would be surprised about the amount of people happy to be vaccinated 8pm-8am. Especially if it’s quieter and lots of night staff are on furlough. Plus if one adult works days they are at home at night so you can go get yours and then swap at the weekend.

MRex · 09/01/2021 15:21

@notevenat20
What do you think is the advantage then of vaccinating at night instead of just giving the vaccines from additional locations during the daytime?
If we have the space and all the people who might have been willing to vaccinate at night are willing to vaccinate in the day instead, then great. But you have to be careful with his argument as you can use it to persuade yourself that we could vaccine for one hour a day only, which would be a mistake.

I don't think you understand the point. People don't usually work 1 hour shifts, they usually work longer hours. They can't work 24 hours.

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notevenat20 · 09/01/2021 16:24

I don't think you understand the point. People don't usually work 1 hour shifts, they usually work longer hours. They can't work 24 hours.

I did understand. The point is that if there really are enough places to do extra vaccinations and all the people who might have done it out of hours can also do it in normal hours then yes we should do more in the day. But that might not be the case.

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CuriousaboutSamphire · 09/01/2021 16:37

Out of hours? You mean like the 12-18 hour coverage currently being offered?

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notevenat20 · 09/01/2021 17:23

You mean like the 12-18 hour coverage currently being offered?

Are there really places vaccinating for 18 hours straight. That would be great if true.

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CuriousaboutSamphire · 10/01/2021 13:32

??????

I can't believe you started a thread about the timing of vaccination centres without knowing.

The initial Pfizer vaccine locally was available at home or in one local centre that offered 9 - 7 pm appointments.

The Oxford vaccine, with less constraints on storage, will be available in places like fire stations. Our local fire station was open at 8 am this morning... injecting one vaccine every 2 minutes.

Our local surgeries are planning to roll it out like they did the last flu vacc, offering evening sessions up to 7-8 at night. They also have special sessions 7 - 9 in the morning at the surgery and weekends when they somehow managed to arrange shifts covering from 7 am - 7 pm.

That's why I have been saying 24/7 won't be needed. The logistics will expand to enable supply to be given as fast as they can be staffed.

CatherineCawood · 10/01/2021 13:36

[quote Blessex]@Alfaix how did you get the opp to help out? Would love to.[/quote]
You.can volunteer with the St John Ambulance. My DD currently on a gap year had an interview 2 weeks ago. She got accepted, they did an enhanced DBS check and gave her 30 hours of online training to wade through. She's almost finished that then this week she will go for physical training and then should be vaccinating people ASAP. The vols don't get the vaccine though, just some PPE.

Alfaix · 10/01/2021 13:41

My surgery put it on FB in December that they were looking for recently retired medics. I emailed them and said that I’m not a medic, or retired, but I have time, am good with a needle and trained in cross infection, medical emergencies etc.
They emailed me this week and now it’s all systems go!

Dowser · 10/01/2021 13:55

Is no one worried about the ever increasing list of people who have died or become unwell within a couple of hours/ days of having the vac

dementedpixie · 10/01/2021 13:57

Do you have a link to that?

CuriousaboutSamphire · 10/01/2021 14:04

not even my apologies. I wrote that last post in something of a snit and was unfair to you.

I've been trying to convince a neighbour that her 60something fit and healthy self will get a vaccine as soon as it is her turn. She is utterly unaware of the realities, possibly get her news from Parler and is relentlessly bitching about all sorts of things.

Again, apologies.

GintyMcGinty · 10/01/2021 14:07

Completely agree.

They need to bloody well pull all their fingers out and get on with it.

CuriousaboutSamphire · 10/01/2021 14:21

How? Many centre are already open, vaccinating lots of people. Mass vacc centres open tomorrow. Pharmacies, GP surgeries and many more will come on line as soon as there is vaccine available.

This is being done in realtime. No stocks, reserves if vaccine, no planned roll out, no usual procedures to follow, no usual staffing.

Everything is happening to a timetable that is restricted by the real time production of a novel vaccine and peripheral items.

If you have a time machine, an alternative universe, then offer it to the government... if not the work out the realities of the situation, the real life constraints.

Dowser · 10/01/2021 14:23

@dementedpixie

Do you have a link to that?
Some, like the death of Miami doctor was already in msm. And I read about Portuguese health worker this morning but there’s quite a few more I didn’t know about Also a £120k one off compensation payment won’t touch the sides for anyone left with a serious disability I’ll see if I can pm it to you
Dowser · 10/01/2021 14:24

@dementedpixie
Sent
Hopefully

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notevenat20 · 10/01/2021 14:33

How? Many centre are already open, vaccinating lots of people. Mass vacc centres open tomorrow. Pharmacies, GP surgeries and many more will come on line as soon as there is vaccine available.

Are there any figures for the total number of vaccine doses available? Everyone says that is the bottleneck but I have never seen numbers for the Oxford plus Pfizer vaccines.

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Raspberry681 · 10/01/2021 14:49

Agreed- I’d definitely take up an offer of a vaccine, at any time of night. However I’ve been really surprised by the level of entitlement and delusion expressed on my local Facebook group by individuals about vaccination slots, so I doubt that there would be sufficient take up. Someone yesterday posted an ‘outraged’ comment that her husband would have to drive his father to his appointment at a vaccination hub 5 miles away rather than him being able to have it at the local gp surgery or hospital... seemed to be lost on the silly bint that, just maybe, the gp surgery and hospital were to be used to provide other essential hospital care and the vaccination hub was the most efficient use of medical resources...

Side note - how do such self entitled people manage to get through life with such an inflexible outlook??

Missfelipe · 10/01/2021 15:05

People need to seriously get a grip and appreciate that there are a vast amount of people already working their backsides off to get this done as fast as they can. It will come, people need exercise some patience. As it is, we are all dealing with a global pandemic, something none of us has faced in their lifetime. Scientists have managed to create vaccines in an unprecedented amount of time and folk are still not happy? I give up. I’m volunteering at the mass vaccination sites (not in a clinical role) and I was emailed at 6.30am this morning, a Sunday, for availability...so please, calm down!

MrsMoggy · 10/01/2021 15:39

I spent nearly my entire working week last week booking in Covid vaccines for over 80s. Early appointments were largely turned down “oh I can’t be up and about then”. Some people declined as they didn’t want it if they couldn’t have it at the surgery itself. People said they were housebound when they weren’t as they want people to go to them even though we don’t know how long that will be. People rang up to try and change their appointment as “we’re a bit busy that day”.

It’s not as simple as offer an appointment and people will turn up. We also have an online booking system but many won’t even try to use it and simply ring the surgery instead. It’s actually really tiring to explain the process and directions to the site to hundreds of people a day, many of whom have hearing or memory issues. None of this is simple and we are all trying our best while trying to keep normal service going as well.

LickEmbysmiling · 10/01/2021 15:48

I agree op, 24/7 but people who do night shift paid more.
Actually plenty would go through the night for it, several elderly aunts and uncles are insomniacs and would do it. Or different type of risk patient could be brought in.

Overall however, please remember whilst our gov has done much wrong in this pandemic, we really are miles and miles ahead of many other countries with vaccinations, esp the eu.

LickEmbysmiling · 10/01/2021 15:49

Mrs moggy, isn't it the very elderly being targeted at the moment? In which case of course they won't know how to use the Internet!

jollyunicorn83 · 10/01/2021 15:51

In our area they were vaccinating Xmas day and Boxing Day. What 80 year old is going to drive somewhere in the middle of the night for a jab? It's not safe to ask people to do that

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