Serious Covid illness in younger people with no serious underlying conditions

[Bettydot]

Recently in video and news paper reports in the mainstream media I’ve noticed more of a mention of younger people in their 20s, 30s and 40s being seriously ill in hospital and ICUs with covid. There seems to have been more of a mention of this during this wave compared to previously. I’m aware that the new strain is only thought to be more infectious and that there have always been some younger people who are severely effected however I’ve noticed that the number of younger people who are getting seriously ill with Covid has been flagged up with more frequency recently. Does anyone know if there has been a rise in younger people being seriously effected and if so why or if this nothing has changed and it’s more of a case of making sure that people are aware that no one is immune to serious illness?

We cant write off people just because they're larger fgs

Who is saying we should write people off? or that they dont matter?

Being overweight increases your risk of becoming ill and needing hospital treatment for covid.
www.gov.uk/government/news/new-obesity-strategy-unveiled-as-country-urged-to-lose-weight-to-beat-coronavirus-covid-19-and-protect-the-nhs#:~:text=Living%20with%20excess%20weight%20puts,of%20the%20general%20population.

www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/09/why-covid-19-more-deadly-people-obesity-even-if-theyre-young

My daughter works for the NHS in kent at a small hospital and drs coming to do clinics were telling her they had young people on oxygen at the main hospital.

@RememberSelfCompassion

You cant become un-obese overnight. There are multiple reasons for weightgain (childhood trauma beinf a huge one.) We cant write off people just because they're larger fgs.

The man linked to above swam 80 lengths a day!!! Hardly unfit.

Those v obese arent due to be vaccinated until group 6.

You can do a lot to reduce the harmful inflammation that goes hand in hand with obesity - and the risk of bad covid - in about 21 days.

Not overnight, but 3 weeks, and given we've had 10 months, a lot of people could have done something about it....to save the NHS 'n all

What can you do to reduce inflammation?

This really ought to be put out there (like the vit d has been. Eventually)

The rise is probably do to socialising at Christmas, schools and nurseries.

@2boysand1princess

Not to scare anyone, but I can tell you that there are a lot more younger patients that need hospital treatment, not necessarily icu, but they need admitting to hospital for care. My DH is frontline. Also, he was told a few days ago that in our local hospital 70-80% of the cases are the new strain. We aren’t anywhere in the south either. I’m in Yorkshire.

How do they tell which strain a patient has?

and given we've had 10 months, a lot of people could have done something about it....to save the NHS 'n all

I agree. Noone is saying you can lose weight overnight but this has been going on since March- thats almost a year that people could have tried to do at least something. I know its not easy but we have had almost a year of this. You can achieve a lot in almost a year.

@RememberSelfCompassion

This book will do it here

Anything that cuts out all junk food, refined sugar and seed oils will reduce inflammation which is what increases the risk when obese

or his new one here

@Fembot123 good question! No idea. It’s just appeared in our local paper too. I’m guessing they know it’s the new strain just like they know that it exists; lab analysis

I would suspect that more people are back out at work and catching it, whereas the older generation are shielding more. So the real numbers are of course higher, but it is all relative.

[quote Bettydot]@Jessuk86 that’s worrying. Does she feel that younger people are now being effected more seriously? Are the younger people she’s seeing a healthy weight and in good shape?[/quote]
I will ask her about the weight issue as I hadn’t thought of that she has just said younger with no underlying health issues but like previous posters have mentioned obesity may have been overlooked.

By the way, what percentage of the population under 50 do you think is overweight

About 1/3, and they've had since March to do something about it.

I think 67% of adults in the UK are overweight or obese. And it has been rising, so may be more

As a pp healthcare worker pointed out, a lot of people in that bracket have many bad markers - inflammation, raised blood sugars etc. These are not good things to have knocking about for Covid. Or at any other time to be frank - it all shows up in the NHS eventually

My sister said a lot of the patients that are younger could be classed as overweight but not all so it seems it is a factor but sadly still some younger people as well as older will unfortunately be affected badly :(

I see this thread deteriorated into yet another diet thread full of people who know the calories of everything but the value of nothing?

I work with an obese colleague, he had the mildest form of covid ever. I was sure he would struggle. He is only 35 though.

@Haffiana

I see this thread deteriorated into yet another diet thread full of people who know the calories of everything but the value of nothing?

I don't calorie count but aside from that, it actually is a valid discussion for the thread - the most typical reason a younger person would be hospitalised is because they are obese.

And it worries me that people aren't equipped to do something about it

I see this thread deteriorated into yet another diet thread full of people who know the calories of everything but the value of nothing

The value of nothing? I value my life thanks very much and the lives of those I care about.
If losing weight will help me or others with that then I dont see why you'd be so against it. Its a medical fact and is no different to informing people that smoking causes lung cancer.

@2boysand1princess

I work with an obese colleague, he had the mildest form of covid ever. I was sure he would struggle. He is only 35 though.

I’m glad ❤️ I think that’s what is so scary, it’s so random so no one can really rest on their laurels thinking they’ll be fine, we can all only do our best.

@MimiLaRue

I see this thread deteriorated into yet another diet thread full of people who know the calories of everything but the value of nothing

The value of nothing? I value my life thanks very much and the lives of those I care about.
If losing weight will help me or others with that then I dont see why you'd be so against it. Its a medical fact and is no different to informing people that smoking causes lung cancer.

Will losing weight help you? If yes, then crack the fuck on. If no, then stop telling other people your opinion about how weight loss is good for them.

This is a thread about cases in younger people, not about the food issues of the usual suspects.

Previously healthy Dd (15 at the time) had encephalitis from an unknown virus a year ago. It was touch and go when we found her. Weeks in hospital. She is on lots of medication and still has regular seizures. Possibly could have been Covid because she was negative for all the usual virus suspects but doctors say it can’t ruled in/out for sure and it was an unusual case.
There will be a % of young people who will not respond well to the virus. So the higher the numbers the more you’ll hear of these cases.

If no, then stop telling other people your opinion about how weight loss is good for them

LOL its not my "opinion" its a medical fact.

Perhaps if we actually opened up a healthy supportive discussion about this then more people would be encouraged to seek help. Screaming at people to shut up isnt helping this situation either btw so maybe YOU should shut up with your opinion eh?

The South African head medic (I don't know his official title) claimed they were seeing more younger people critically ill with that variant. It's a big claim for a person in his position and profession to make but I'm not aware of any research to back it up or undermine it at this point.