If so many people wanted schools closed then why are some schools seeing up to 75% of children in?

[Waxonwaxoff0]

I have never wanted schools closed although I do recognise why they need to and that they need to be made safer.

Yet it seemed like I was in the minority, all over the internet people wanted schools closed and their children safely at home.

So why are so many trying to send their children in? Is it a case of "schools should be closed except for my child?"

Can I also get a magic elixir of youth from the doctor to reduce my age risk factor?

@3littlewords

I think most people were pushing for a 2 week circuit breaker which you can just about manage to juggle childcare etc, now its going to be weeks, probably months, they are realising its not actually doable and therefore doing everything possible to send them in knowing the disruption it caused last year in many children to be off so long

This.

I know I thought it would be a couple of weeks after Xmas, a month at most. To hear it's 'possible' 'some' children will go back after feb half term (which means most won't be until after Easter at the earliest) certainly will have given people a jolt that having them home schooling for so long in the winter isn't a great option.

They got what they wished for ! They created this mess! Schools need to be open fully

I am glad you are not in education @whittystitties.

Have you been in contact with many schools to find out whether they have issues with pupil numbers? Are you in contact with educational organisations who are monitoring what is happening in schools?

@Khara

Can I also get a magic elixir of youth from the doctor to reduce my age risk factor?

Sadly not but retirement is always an option

I am clinically vulnerable and of course I am entitled to ask if I can work from home but my employer is entitled to refuse my request.

Or I could just carry on going to work like millions of other clinically vulnerable people have to do to stop the whole country collapsing.

@ineedaholidaynow

I am glad you are not in education *@whittystitties*.

Have you been in contact with many schools to find out whether they have issues with pupil numbers? Are you in contact with educational organisations who are monitoring what is happening in schools?

I am merely an observer of the hysterical

I wonder if people who want schools open as normal didn't spend last term undergoing multiple self isolations

classes need to be small enough to enable social distancing. If that means only half the class in at a time then so be it
Quite but as it is now, its the same half thats in all the time and the same time that's stuck at home all the time. At least that's true for my ds class where there's 14 children at home and 16 in the classroom. Do you know how many were in during the initial lockdown? 4! Why were they not in during the last lockdown? Because "it wasn't safe" . Ironic much

@whittystitties so you have no knowledge on education

[quote Nellodee]@carlisle mum I agree that people working from home should not get paid.

Oh, no I don't, because that would be stupid.[/quote]
I don't want the 'log on with your kid at x time so I can mark your child down as in attendance, here's a full school curriculum and timetable for you to recreate at home while you sack off all your responsibilities and I get paid while my children get schooled' bullshit.

We are at home. If we are truly to home educate, that means setting our own curriculum and timetable. And at this time of year going out for exercise in school time because those are the daylight hours!

Last year we used BBC Bitesize and will again next week. It's far more suited to homeschooling. If closures were really long-term I'd have the funding go to central providers experienced in providing quality, suitable remote provision. The same standard for all. If teachers want to talk themselves out of a salary, so be it.

Again, I don't think the majority of non keyworkers parents will accept this attempt to exclude their children though.

*half not time 🤦‍♀️

[quote ineedaholidaynow]@whittystitties so you have no knowledge on education[/quote]
I've had one, which I suppose is more than our children are currently getting

@whittystitties

You don’t shield for someone else. I am expected in school regardless (when not in lockdown).

Anyway, let me reassure you that the government certainly haven’t closed schools to protect teachers or their families and they haven’t even closed to protect kids. They’ve closed because they have no other option and that is no fault of ANY member of school staff.

@whittystitties

The hospitals are close to beyond capacity in many areas, and it's getting worse. Because it takes a couple of weeks for people to get severe symptoms and more to either recover or to tragically not, we're not at a point where numbers are going to reduce for several weeks, even with the lockdown.

You might not be vulnerable to the virus, but have a stroke or heart-attack or car crash or appendicitis and there might not be a bed because they're taken up with people with life-threatening Covid symptoms. That's why we have to all work together on this, even those who don't care if we're not likely directly in danger from the virus.

That word again 'hysterical'. Used to belittle and mock.

@mrshoho

That word again 'hysterical'. Used to belittle and mock.

If you take offence them that's your problem, I'm female, I also have a tomb and an awareness of the meaning of the world, don't be ridiculous, MN is a hotbed or hysteria atm

*womb, but may as well be a tomb as the hysterical have convinced the world we all need to stop living to be worthy

In the initial lockdown the risk assessment was different because we knew less about the virus. Many people who we thought were at a great risk from the virus we know now aren’t. So it makes sense that the judgements people make about sending children in this time around are different.

Interesting you had to stress the point that you are female there.

There were plenty of people insisting they stay open. On MN i would say it was the majority.

Walk away, mrshoho. This person is just after a nice fight.

You know what - I'm done. I have spent this whole pandemic putting other people first - the kids, their parents, my colleagues. I think it might be time to be selfish and just for once put myself first.
And I understand those who are worried about their kids education. I have spent this week consoling my dd whose GCSEs have been cancelled. She was predicted a bunch of nines. Hopefully she'll still get them. But she's been saying "Well everyone will know it was 2021 so no one will really believe I really got those grades." Last year my son's A levels were cancelled and he's just had the first term from hell at uni, effectively locked in his hall of residence.

I'm not after a fight, but it seems if you have a differing opinion to Covid fearmongerers you are simply an antagonist - which is really unfair and quite the bullying attitude

@Stripesnomore

In the initial lockdown the risk assessment was different because we knew less about the virus. Many people who we thought were at a great risk from the virus we know now aren’t. So it makes sense that the judgements people make about sending children in this time around are different.

Yet things never got as bad in March as they are now........

I am more scared now than in March. Not scared for me & my family, but society as a whole and most importantly the NHS.

If you don't think we are in a bad situation, and these actions are unnecessary, then should you try and seek out medical treatment if you need it when the professionals treating you are the ones you seem to want to crush.