Reinfected

[Flippetyflipok]

I've just had a positive test. I was ill last April, and had ongoing long covid. Ironically only chatted to GP this week who said that no one has any idea re recovery.

Has anyone else had it twice? I'm hoping second time not so debilitating - I didn't have to go to hospital or anything but felt like crap for weeks.

@IceIceBebe

IF OP's GP says she has been reinfected, the keyboard scientists on here should probably not be saying otherwise.

This.

Several colleagues have tested +ve in recent weeks after also testing +ve March/April and onwards. All confirmed cases (NHS staff all frontline) A few report just as bad as initial infection, although none have been hospitalised either time.

Reinfection sounds like something we should be prepared for. Like everything with Covid it seems very hard to predict who will be affected and how severely at the moment.

At the moment we have 30k people in hospital. We've got 2% of the population currently infected with Covid in England. We're getting 50-60k positive tests a day.

In April we had 20k people in hospital - so let's say 1.34% population infected. We were getting 4500 positives a day. So 45-55k positive tests were missing. We cannot just say those people didn't have covid-19.

Additionally plenty of people will be getting tests for "it could be and we have to get tested so I had better check" so the volume of negative tests doesn't tell us how likely the op was or wasn't to have it.

@Nacreous

At the moment we have 30k people in hospital. We've got 2% of the population currently infected with Covid in England. We're getting 50-60k positive tests a day.

In April we had 20k people in hospital - so let's say 1.34% population infected. We were getting 4500 positives a day. So 45-55k positive tests were missing. We cannot just say those people didn't have covid-19.

Additionally plenty of people will be getting tests for "it could be and we have to get tested so I had better check" so the volume of negative tests doesn't tell us how likely the op was or wasn't to have it.

This!

I had covid in late March/early April. No test but for me no doubt - classic symptoms and O2 sats at 85%. Unless you were ill at the time you won't know the desperation of not being able to get a test or an ambulance or any help through NHS111.

For all the keyboard warriors claiming you don't know you've had it without a test, just wait til you get it. You'll change your tune.

BNO are keeping a rough tracker of confirmed and suspected reinfections here:

bnonews.com/index.php/2020/08/covid-19-reinfection-tracker/
bnonews.com/index.php/reinfection-tracker-suspected-cases/

Confirmed cases require genomic sequencing to 100% prove it isn’t a relapse, so they’re reported very rarely.

I know two people who have had it twice (proven). One of them was getting antibody tests (NHS worker) and she NEVER produced antibodies.

Oh, and both had multiple negative tests in between the positive ones. Infections about 7/8 months apart.

I'm afraid I don't accept that doctors utter The Word Of God any more, because I'm still scarred from the way we had a LOT of medical professionals telling us not to wear masks back in spring 2020. I was getting better COVID advice from Twitter randoms, frankly.

@Feelingpoorlysick sorry to hear you've also got post covid kidney pain. My original thread on that is here: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/coronavirus/3891172-Post-virus-kidney-pain-anyone-else?msgid=101770102 but there are no answers I'm afraid.

Have you also signed up to the Body Politic slack? There's a renal and urinary thread there that helped me, at least to know I wasn't alone.

And I got some urine dipsticks to check for lymphocytes, protein and blood in urine periodically. So far I'm ok but haven't checked since reinfection.

Doctors seeing reinfection in hospitals. It’s a real phenomenon.

abc3340.com/news/local/cases-of-covid-19-reinfections-trickling-into-alabama-hospitals

Not just media reports. Plenty of sequenced cases and clinical case reports now.

academic.oup.com/cid/advance-article/doi/10.1093/cid/ciaa1936/6058751

papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3750109

Real question is how common it is and what the implications are in terms of severity and onward transmission.

Pay no attention to the deniers. From “there will be no second wave” to “it's just cases, hospitalisations aren’t rising” to “deaths are just like a bad flu year” - they’ve been wrong about everything, and they’re wrong about this.

Oh it’s climbdad.

Hai.

It is absolutely a fact that some people who got infected last spring are now getting re-infected unfortunately.

Friend of ours is a doctor.Positive text back in March and now positive again. We know lots of people with the new variant - symptoms markedly different (and vague) to the “main” old one. I think NHS needs to update its advice.

I got mumps twice.

That does not in any way change the fact that mumps is overwhelmingly a one-time disease and that vaccination against mumps basically works.

Some reinfection stats in the news today: www.theguardian.com/society/2021/jan/14/recovering-from-covid-gives-similar-level-of-protection-to-vaccine

@Flippetyflipok

No, no testing back then! My DH had a positive antibody test and I got ill shortly after his symptoms started.

Have you symptoms now or was it an asymptomatic positive test? These tests are not reliable as they were designed to test people with symptoms. It's possible that viral traces from a previous infection can lead to a positive test at a later stage too. In addition there are lots of viruses and illnesses with similar symptoms of coronavirus so without a positive test you may not have had coronavirus in April.

There are so many reasons why its more likely that one or both your illnesses were not too positives rather than you have had coronavirus twice. It is possible but unlikely.

@ClimbDad

Doctors seeing reinfection in hospitals. It’s a real phenomenon.

abc3340.com/news/local/cases-of-covid-19-reinfections-trickling-into-alabama-hospitals

Not just media reports. Plenty of sequenced cases and clinical case reports now.

academic.oup.com/cid/advance-article/doi/10.1093/cid/ciaa1936/6058751

papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3750109

Real question is how common it is and what the implications are in terms of severity and onward transmission.

Pay no attention to the deniers. From “there will be no second wave” to “it's just cases, hospitalisations aren’t rising” to “deaths are just like a bad flu year” - they’ve been wrong about everything, and they’re wrong about this.

If you dig hard enough you can always find some rare evidence. The links you have provided are hardly "Plenty of sequenced cases and clinical case reports now".

@Billie18 Yes I had symptoms. The most likely explanation for my illness last April is covid. I appreciate you might want to deny my anecdotal n=1 evidence for reinfection, but did you read the PHE study on reinfection in >20,000 health workers? The research is ongoing, and they could do with supplying more data on probable/possible cases, but looks like, in line with other coronaviruses, reinfection is possible (17% reinfection if probables + possibles confirmed), both symptomatic and not, so it's very important esp for CEVs that people don't assume previous infection = LT immunity.

You can get it twice. A friend of mine tested positive on both occasions.

There isn’t actually any central reporting system currently for people with confirmed reinfection. A lot of doctors groups are trying to raise this and get it dealt with/logged as a lot of people are missing this, but there are so many people out there on their second and a couple on their 3rd.

Officially reinfected today.
This feels like a cold, totally different to the several days in March last year where I was delirious for much it.
Had the bloody vaccine this week too.
Pffft.

@FrankiesKnuckle aw crap! Hopefully it will be mild and for the last time.

Thanks. It's so frustrating, I'm bored out of my mind already!
Got a husband and 7 yr old keeping me company (of sorts)

Fairly sure I have had it twice. (Three times if you count the first relapse. Although I count that period as one time. )

So- 1 week just before lockdown one. I got better. Two weeks later I was ill again) Then I had a confirmed case in January. Possibly picked up in the supermarket. Symptoms very similar both times. More chest aches and headaches in most recent dose. I had a lot of vomiting. Both times I had it- no one else in the family got sick.

I am wondering if there is a genetic component and I am susceptible

Or it stuck around inside me and reactivated when I was feeling stressed