has everyone become too hysterical about Covid?

[tellytubby20]

Looking at all the threads on MN my impression is that everyone has become completely hysterical about Covid and completely misunderstands the difference between personal health risk and public health.

Am not oblivious to the health risks - I have followed all the rules, live next to a major London hospital (so very aware of how busy the ambulance service is) and had covid last year.
BUT
I am also under 40 with small DCs - so am aware that my personal risk of death or severe illness is small - my goal is therefore to ensure that I do not spread it others who are vulnerable.

However, so many people seem to have decided that the threat/risk is massive to their kids and themselves especially with this new variant.....WHY?

AIBU - to think that people are massively over-estimating personal risk if they are healthy and under 50 and have become hysterical about it.

AINBU to think that

todays figures!!! over 1,000 deaths and over 62,000 new cases

from this little country, so far today ,thats the most in the world, i find that incredible ....i know the U.S and a few other countries have yet to update but its sickening to look at!

@Everleigh2021

todays figures!!! over 1,000 deaths and over 62,000 new cases

from this little country, so far today ,thats the most in the world, i find that incredible ....i know the U.S and a few other countries have yet to update but its sickening to look at!

On the news today, Matt Hancock said the true figure is 1 in 50 currently infected, so 2% which is concerning to be honest

@Madhairday - when did i say that i do not believe in a lockdown. my only point is why cant people follow the rules without being hysterical. thats it.

And I suggest you look at covid messenger today. All but five council areas still riding. This page is stark in its representation of what is happening and why we have to contain it.

For the millionth time, it's not about a few 80 year olds dying. It is about stopping this thing overwhelming the NHS. And it is showing no signs of abating yet because we're not far into lockdown and because people think they can do what they wish, because they don't see it as a personal risk.
www.covidmessenger.com/

@tellytubby20 I was talking to minimisers in general, many of whom are on this thread :(

And the pressure on the NHS is nothing like the pressure they have every winter which is bad enough. Frontline staff up and down the country and confirming how much worse it is. The numbers are confirming how much worse it is.

It’s nothing like the normal winter pressures.

@TheVanguardSix

DH is in ICU being hooked up to a CPAP machine as I type. My short answer to your question is, no, I don't think we're being hysterical about this new strain of a novel virus our bodies don't recognise.

You will get covid, OP. We all will get it. We all just have to hope that we don't end up like my DH. I hope you don't spend nights not sleeping and days crying in the bathroom so your kids don't have to watch your hope dissolve. I'm not being sarcastic or confrontational. I mean this, from the absolute whole of my heart, OP. I hope your days never mimic the ones I am living out now. I hope you can remain untouched by this devil of a virus. I don't know if my husband will ever walk through his own front door again.

Sending huge love. X

@Sirzy - and again at which point did any of this thread was about not believing in covid. It's a thing - a major thing...but why cant people follow lockdown without hysterics i.e without mothers being fearful for their kids whilst considering societal risk and following rules. Why does it have to be either you dont belive in Covid or it's all about personal risk. For lots of people it's about considering societal risk.........

if i come across as hysterical i'd like to say i'm frazzled and worn out with it all. and i dont really care what MN think.

nobody would describe it as 'hysteria' if it was coming from a mani've already corrected some male managers over use of this language when it comes to women. a few men have been described as 'well they have a family to think of' and 'they are just frustrated'...a female? 'she's hysterical'

People posting things like "you have blood on your hands" are hysterical.

Especially as the OP has said that she IS sticking to the rules and IS doing everything the government has asked her to. Nobody's denying anything. But the constant gloomy predictions and criticism of people doing perfectly legal things like going for a walk, shopping in Home Bargains or getting on an aeroplane is unfair, unhelpful and is only done to create division.

@Madhairday not looked on there for a while. Over 3o areas with over 1000 cases per 100 thousand. And some really dramatic rises like Cornwall from a very low position.

also, this is an anon forum, people post here to get it off their chests and might feel better afterwards when they calm down

dont think MN postings are a true representation of what is felt. we just get the rough end of everyones tether i think

There is literally a post quoted on the previous thread where someone said it was just like any other winter.

You seem to be getting hysterical in your determination to label others as such!

People saying that kids have nothing in their life now or compare it to Flowers in the Attic are equally dramatic. Not going to say the h word due to its connotations.

I’m fed up of the “hysterical” tag being given to anyone who doesn’t think we should all be back out in public licking people.

I’m not at all hysterical about any of this, but I agree with the lockdown and with schools being closed. This is based on the fact that the number of cases in my area have tripled in three weeks so clearly action needs to be taken to reduce the spread.

I generally don’t see much hysteria going on, more often I see people refusing to accept there is a problem and deciding we should just lock up vulnerable people so they can get to the pub.

I’m pretty sure the ‘hysterical’ label is being given to those who are actually being hysterical. Male or female.

Lots of people aren’t hysterical about it. Doesn’t mean they’re not taking reasonable precautions where necessary.

There have been a thousand deaths recorded today, that is sobering news. 1000 people whose families have lost someone close to them, 1000 people who NHS staff will have tried to treat and keep alive. 1000 NHS staff who have had to declare someone dead, and then start to inform next of kin.

That is nothing to say of those still in hospital being treated right now this moment by staff who are giving their all. And this has been with lockdown measures in place.

I don't blame individual, I think we need to dial back the rhetoric of blood on their hands and maybe just try to treat this situation with some dignity and a hulking dose of empathy.

@MintyMabel - but I very deliberately used the term hysterical - not flippantly. I did not label people following the rules as hysterical .... it was a deliberate choice of words to denote an overuse of emotions towards a particular situation. I agree that the sexist overlay of that term is unfortunate and does fall within the trope of the 'hysterical female' etc.....

I don’t see the term hysterical as sexist. I think of piers Morgan as hysterical.

Hysterical literally refers to the uterus. It couldn’t be more gendered. In times gone by it was thought (by men obviously) that women’s wombs went rampaging round their bodies, causing them to have mood swings and behave hysterically - as if they have a uterus. Hence hysterectomy, hysteroscopy etc.

The origin of the term is extremely sexist. And it’s very often used disparagingly about women. So it’s definitely very much a problematic term.

However in this case I’m happy to use the word, because I do actually think some people are being utterly ridiculous.

There were also 3179 people admitted to hospital (data for 29th December). That makes over 17,000 from the week previous.

Of these patients, some will die and some will be discharged. But many will stay in for longer. There's over 30,000 in hospital (as of 29th). And it appears more are going into hospital rather than are leaving it, so that nunber of 30,000 is rising.

Thats BEFORE T4 came in, in many places.

Absolutely! I don't believe the daily death rates of Covid-only deaths is nearly accurate. I think it is much lower, and that any patient dying with Covid, not because of Covid, is being included. They are beating us down with all the negative propaganda, and then shortly there will be some positive news to perk us up, balancing our compliance against suicidal ideation!

@LabiaMinoraPissusFlapus

Absolutely! I don't believe the daily death rates of Covid-only deaths is nearly accurate. I think it is much lower, and that any patient dying with Covid, not because of Covid, is being included. They are beating us down with all the negative propaganda, and then shortly there will be some positive news to perk us up, balancing our compliance against suicidal ideation!

Fucking. Hell.

@LabiaMinoraPissusFlapus

Absolutely! I don't believe the daily death rates of Covid-only deaths is nearly accurate. I think it is much lower, and that any patient dying with Covid, not because of Covid, is being included. They are beating us down with all the negative propaganda, and then shortly there will be some positive news to perk us up, balancing our compliance against suicidal ideation!

Are all the nurses and doctors in ICUs lying too? Are the hospitals actually full of actors?? I can see why you don't want the current situation to be true but you can't just pretend it's not real... unless you have some credible alternative?