75% of my school are in

[ReginaPhalangee]

That's it in a nutshell. Three quarters of my school are classed as keyworker or vulnerable. Might as well chuck the other 50 in and be done with it.

Lockdown 1... 12 children.

No PPE and we've got to double our workload for the ones needing remote learning whilst we are teaching our classes. And then making phone calls to check on them.

It's the same for every school in my area.

@alwaysraining123

The unions pushed for school closures with little thought as to the realities which as it turns out is still sizeable classes, poorer education provision for all, stressed out parents, overburdened teachers, head teachers, and support staff, minimal reduction in infection risk. I hope the unions are content with their work.

This, all of this! The teachers can't be happy.

If you have a non KW at home, you don't need it.

Isn’t this thread about those who are listed as official
Key workers but people like you don’t think are ‘worthy’?

Sorry, from reading bits of this, am I right that if 1 parent is a key worker the child can attend school, what if the other is furloughed, or SAHP, surely the school refuses those ?

I hope the unions are content with their work.

Lol

The schools in my area are refusing places for only 1 KW parent.

At my dc's primary there is only one child in my ds's year 3 class in school. We were offered a place but I said we were managing at the moment. I thought there would be more children in school. There was about 5 children in each class during the summer lockdown.

@AudreyAubergine

Yes ok, all doctors and nurses please walk off the job and keep your kids at home

Strawman argument.

My dad and sister are both doctors. Yes, they would refuse to go to work if it was unsafe. My dad is 70+, so he does less patient facing work. Teachers were told they just had to teach. My sister had to work in a covid ward. If she hadn't had proper PPE, she would not have been able to set foot on the ward. My BIL is a GP. He sees circa 4 patients face to face every day at the moment, compared to many, many more pre covid. They have mainly gone online, like schools are now.

Good point.

I had to see my gp for re fit if a coil today. There was 6 of us in the waiting room.

I commented it was busy. She said they still see very few patients face to face it's a massive reduction still.

There were two unions involved -

• the NAHT initiated legal proceedings against the government to put the onus on them to prove that schools were safe.

The very next day, Johnson announced that schools would move to online provision (apart from kw, v, echp kids).

They have also asked the govt to work with them and PHE to plan and implement plans to make schools safer so that all children can return sooner.

The NEU advised its members of their rights to issue a section 44 notice under H&S legislation. This is because of the lack of mitigation measures in the workplace which has resulted in teaching staff being particularly hard hit by the virus. The virus might not have ripped through schools in the way it had if these safety measures had been in place as soon as schools returned in September.

Exactly which bits of that don't you agree with?

Safer schools? The govt working with teachers and PHE? Getting all children back to school as safely as possible as soon as possible?

Which bit?

@whittystitties

And do Gav has come out and said if home schooling is poor quality then he'll send Ofsted in... now teachers are all moaning about this instead

Unbelievable

Gab wouldn't know good quality education if it bit his arse.

The mans a clueless knob.

Even top Tories can't believe he's still in the job!

The remote learning is what is given in class.

A family member has a KW place. They work part time in HR for a university (from home) and are classified as a KW. Partner is in private sector, non essential role and also WFH.

I’m surprised they got a place and the child’s class is 50% full

@TheKeatingFive

If you have a non KW at home, you don't need it.

Isn’t this thread about those who are listed as official
Key workers but people like you don’t think are ‘worthy’?

Not strictly true. There have been posts on here from people who can work from home, but not with their kids there.

@Waxonwaxoff0 because society works when we all think about others alongside our own needs. It's pretty obvious. I'd certainly rather someone with a greater need for a keyworker place than me got it and hope you would do the same. It's not as simple as human nature - we wouldn't be a civilised society if we all thought like that!

Well this certainly opened a can of worms. To the posters who have said 'I call bullshit' and 'this is a shock post', I can assure you it's not. Not my style. I have no idea what's going on in many, many other schools across the country and can only speak for mine.

I've been in school all day, morale is pretty good and the children have been thoroughly welcomed back to school and are happy to be there. Nobody is moaning, not one member of staff has handed in 'the letter' and it's business as usual.

As you were...

I've sent my in, I do not feel a jot of guilt

I hope the other parents and staff know that.

The unions should now push for stricter rules on the keyworker provision. Should be both parents and where no childcare bubble exists.

@ReginaPhalangee

Well this certainly opened a can of worms. To the posters who have said 'I call bullshit' and 'this is a shock post', I can assure you it's not. Not my style. I have no idea what's going on in many, many other schools across the country and can only speak for mine.

I've been in school all day, morale is pretty good and the children have been thoroughly welcomed back to school and are happy to be there. Nobody is moaning, not one member of staff has handed in 'the letter' and it's business as usual.

As you were...

How about the 25%? Are they feeling good

Is it harder to cater to them

It’d be hard to know so many of your friends get to be together this term

Marsha "How about the 25%? Are they feeling good

Is it harder to cater to them

It’d be hard to know so many of your friends get to be together this term"

You're absolutely right, it's going to be hard for them knowing they're not able to join their classmates. They've had several face to face lessons on Teams though, alongside the class and the other isolating students, which they've enjoyed. And their own class teachers have been asked to call them once a day to say hello and ask if they need help with anything. We do a Teams afternoon worship/assembly each day which all families are remotely invited to and many of them were there today.

@TheKeatingFive

Well whoever then, you still have legal rights

I work in a small consultancy business. I am one of only a small number of fee earners. I don’t do my job, we can’t afford to keep 5/6 other members of the team on. People’s livelihoods depend on this.

People bleating about ‘rights’ have no clue how these types of businesses work.

One thing this whole pandemic has made apparent to me is that many people don’t understand the complexities or difficulties of other people’s jobs.

Yes everyone has theoretical rights to only work a certain number of hours and in a entirely safe situation, but realistically if we want things to continue to run it is inevitable that people in certain jobs are overworked, overstressed and not suitably supported.

At one point during the first lockdown my husband worked 21 days in a row with no break for around 12 to 16 hours a day. Yes this was obviously illegal and unsafe, but it was also necessary and I have read comments here complaining about things that could only have been different if he could magically create even more hours in the day for him and his colleagues to work.

Many people have high demands for what they expect (thinking the government and various public bodies and companies should make everything safe and instantly have responses for every new scenario), but don’t seem to realise that situations are complex and nuanced and are unlikely to be perfect, despite people working far harder than they reasonably should have to.

But jamesmiddleton that only works because your SLT can cover your lessons.

What if they cant? It sounds like your employer has an unusual level of "slack" which means if everyone just does a bit more you can all still cope - most companies aren't like that. My team are understaffed without this happening, there's zero slack.

It sounds like you did a good job to include them op

This is not about your situation really but I find it so sad that all we have to do is remove 25% of children and everyone else is happy as Larry, union backs down no letters sent. Especially when it’s always the same dc each time.

I know it’s not you and you’ll do well but just in general. Really depressing.

As you said in op may as well have them all in.

@IceCreamAndCandyfloss

I've sent my in, I do not feel a jot of guilt

I hope the other parents and staff know that.

The unions should now push for stricter rules on the keyworker provision. Should be both parents and where no childcare bubble exists.

Why should anyone feel any guilt?

Please stop with this attitude, all it serves to do is make your miserable

@IceCreamAndCandyfloss

I've sent my in, I do not feel a jot of guilt

I hope the other parents and staff know that.

The unions should now push for stricter rules on the keyworker provision. Should be both parents and where no childcare bubble exists.

Oh and I have no other option or childcare bubble, not grandparents to infect (2 dead or 500 miles away), no siblings to lean on, overseas. No local support network (that's what happens when you work FT)

So, no, I won't feel guilty for using a school place I'm entitled to make use of

Haha if only the nhs were well enough funded to have members of staff to pick up my slack when I'm looking after my child. Every bugger else is busy too. Anecdotally there was 3 children from my my childs class in today, including him. So perhaps ops case is unusual.

I am not enjoying it! Or doing anything like a decent job. The kids get minimal supervision and my 3 day a week job becomes a 5 short days a week job so as to get my hours in.

I am pissed off at the "yes I can work from home but I am less efficient when Hermione is under my feet, and yes I only work 2 days a week but my job counts as a keyworker role, and her teachers do a better job of teaching than me so why not send her 5 days a week" brigade on here.

If you can keep your kids home, in any possible way, then you should. Then maybe the rest of our kids won't be off til September again.

Great, the quotation from some snarky git about how not everyone is as wonderful as me, juggling kids and work, is missing from my post above.

I wish our school could accommodate an autistic, dyslexic, dyspraxic child who did not submit a single piece of work into school in 4 months.