75% of my school are in

[ReginaPhalangee]

That's it in a nutshell. Three quarters of my school are classed as keyworker or vulnerable. Might as well chuck the other 50 in and be done with it.

Lockdown 1... 12 children.

No PPE and we've got to double our workload for the ones needing remote learning whilst we are teaching our classes. And then making phone calls to check on them.

It's the same for every school in my area.

@whittystitties

And do Gav has come out and said if home schooling is poor quality then he'll send Ofsted in... now teachers are all moaning about this instead

Unbelievable

Who can we send in to complain about the poor quality of Gav's work?

Simple, don't bloody vote this shamble of shite back in - but the idiots will

If you're work is giving you no allowances to WFH - because it is so important that employers have realistic expectations of those with kids - and making you work 2 jobs, you need to take it up with HR, not fob the problem off onto your child's teacher

I can WFH (i do need to be in sometimes) - but is the quality of my work as good when i am also doing my 2nd job of FT childcare? No, it is not. I work for the NHS, their realistic expectation is that my child can go to school. Asking a teacher to teach my child is not fobbing off my "problem" at all. Or would you perhaps prefer i stop working, and then my unit will end up completely unstaffed and nobody will be able to see a doctor OOH because there will not be one?

I can WFH (i do need to be in sometimes) - but is the quality of my work as good when i am also doing my 2nd job of FT childcare? No, it is not

Same goes for everybody in your situation. Which is exactly why I said employers need to have realistic expectations of employees WFH with kids.

The NHS should know that better than anyone and you have a lot of protection as a NHS worker

They don't pay us to beg teachers or child mind, they pay us for work - it's transactional. All the understanding in the world doesn't change the fact that if your in a busy role now, then the work needs to be done by the person they are paying

Same goes for everybody in your situation. Which is exactly why I said employers need to have realistic expectations of employees WFH with kids

It’s not going to change even if people say they should consider outside the needs of the business. The main consideration is keeping clients, especially atm. Which means people who can use KW spaces will.

Or if not private / clients whatever driving force is that they need to have delivered.

@whittystitties

They don't pay us to beg teachers or child mind, they pay us for work - it's transactional. All the understanding in the world doesn't change the fact that if your in a busy role now, then the work needs to be done by the person they are paying

The entitlement on this thread is astounding. This is a national emergency. We need to pull together. Of course if you have small kids at home you will be less efficient.

We cannot have a two tier system where some people are expecting to be able to work and have their children taught in tiny classes by their teacher for their convenience, not necessity while others like me are juggling 4 kids and my work and supervising online learning.

The government needs to produce a key worker priority list, and schools stick to it so they don't get non essential employers insisting that their staff must work from home unencumbered.

There definitely is an element of "furlough culture" in certain sectors or an expectation that you can choose not to work (for example) because you are worried about sending your children to school even though no one in your household is CEV/at risk. Sadly - you can't. You can take unpaid leave for that but you can't just expect to not work & be paid.

others like me are juggling 4 kids and my work and supervising online learning.

Oh, if only we were all as wonderful as you.

The government has a list it's on line. It's not entitlement , it's a realisation that what works for one key worker doesn't work for another. Having a job in a year's time is a necessity for most.

If this is true - and I must admit that I take it with a pinch of salt, rather like the "I know 18 people who've died and still everyone is out shopping [or whatever] - they're so selfish etc etc" - that's great. Finally, hopefully, a few people are seeing sense and realising that we can't carry on with this level of fear and madness.

Maybe it's time employers put the work staff's welfare first rather than it being all about profit and working to perfection even in a global crisis. Just a thought

Maybe it's time employers put the work staff's welfare first rather than it being all about profit and working to perfection even in a global crisis. Just a thought

It’s not about ‘profit’ and ‘perfection’ but survival in a global crisis. So they don’t have to make their employees redundant. That’s the most important thing they can do for their welfare.

Forgive me, but you don’t have a solitary clue, do you?

James Middleton
Everything has to be paid for, you realise that right?

If all the corporates go bust, watch your pension vanish. If loads of employers go under the government will be hit with a benefits bill the size of the planet and that's money the NHS and schools need.

We do actually need the world to go on turning, we can't just hide under a rock.

Forgive me, but you don't seem to see how a pandemic works do you? Let me enlighten you:

Less people send their kids to school who CAN WFH and watch them.

Less transmission of this disease

Vaccinations continue whilst people stay at home wherever possible.

Schools, industries, workplaces can open sooner.

If you balls you the first point, the rest fall apart.

HTH

James do you work? Had to keep clients?

A business slowing down and losing clients won’t help you if you’re made redundant.

Forgive me, but you don't seem to see how a pandemic works do you? Let me enlighten you

I honestly don’t understand how someone is so willfully dumb.

Pandemic or no pandemic, people need to put food on the table and pay their rent/mortgage. Public services need to be paid for by tax revenue raised. Or how do you think we’ll fund things like the NHS?

None of those things have changed.

Or do you think making swathes of families homeless during a pandemic is a good idea?

@MarshaBradyo I teach in a private school so yes I do have few-paying parents to keep happy as if too many leave I would lose my job. This happened in the first pandemic and there were redundancies as parents did pull their kids out as soon as lockdown happened.

I'm doing remote teaching part time whilst home schooling a 5yo and 8yo. I'm a single mum. It's a PITA but we are managing and I have a very supportive employer, with SLT members covering my lessons to lighten my load. It can be done - and if everyone did their bit then it will be over sooner rather than later. But sadly many people have already admitted they care more about their families day to day than they do the greater good.

@TheKeatingFive

Forgive me, but you don't seem to see how a pandemic works do you? Let me enlighten you

I honestly don’t understand how someone is so willfully dumb.

Pandemic or no pandemic, people need to put food on the table and pay their rent/mortgage. Public services need to be paid for by tax revenue raised. Or how do you think we’ll fund things like the NHS?

None of those things have changed.

Or do you think making swathes of families homeless during a pandemic is a good idea?

oh pot, kettle and black.

Key worker provision is there for those who need it.

If you have a non KW at home, you don't need it.

It is not an all or nothing situation - you can WFH and home school too. Yes it's hard but we won't have to do it for as long if we all do our bit to stop the spread. But so many aren't willing to do that and it seems many employers expect perfection from their staff even in these times and when they have children who are forced to be at home

[quote JamesMiddletonsMarshmallows]@MarshaBradyo I teach in a private school so yes I do have few-paying parents to keep happy as if too many leave I would lose my job. This happened in the first pandemic and there were redundancies as parents did pull their kids out as soon as lockdown happened.

I'm doing remote teaching part time whilst home schooling a 5yo and 8yo. I'm a single mum. It's a PITA but we are managing and I have a very supportive employer, with SLT members covering my lessons to lighten my load. It can be done - and if everyone did their bit then it will be over sooner rather than later. But sadly many people have already admitted they care more about their families day to day than they do the greater good. [/quote]
Why is it sad to care about your own family first? That is human nature. I care more about my family than I do about strangers. Who doesn't?

*fee paying parents not fee 🙄

Few!!! I need to proof read before I press post 🤦🏼‍♀️

@Waxonwaxoff0 because if we all said "fuck everyone else I only care about my family and their needs" then we will be in a pandemic for a hell of a lot longer than if we were a bit more considerate for others. And a longer pandemic is not good for anyone's family