How do you think this will end now?

[pinkpetal2]

Sorry if there's been a post on here already, I can't see it.
So if we vaccinate all the groups he said by February.
What do you think will happen next?

Will there ever be a need for lockdowns again do you think?

Will summer be relatively normal...

Not anxious about it, but I do keep seeing people online like Neil Clark who keep saying this will be life forever. Honestly can't see that, nor understand it.

Zero Covid is ridiculous and not possible.

Vaccines will work fine. Coronaviruses and Influenza are completely different in the way they mutate.

Influenza has 8 segments of its RNA that can swap in and out creating a vast array of viruses that can mutate very fast. Coronaviruses are a single strand of RNA that will only mutate slowly.

There will need to be an acceptance that this will still kill and hospitalise some people, just as flu does every year (along with many other viruses in the population).

What if they ploughed all the money into resourcing the NHS so we can cope with the demands placed upon it?

Zero Covid is ridiculous and not possible
New Zealand did it. We’re an island, there’s no reason why we can’t. Except for the fact our government is useless.

@SpikySara

Zero Covid is ridiculous and not possible New Zealand did it. We’re an island, there’s no reason why we can’t. Except for the fact our government is useless.

Perhaps we could have done it, if our useless government had locked down sooner and properly last March. It's endemic here now and that's entirely the fault of the shambolic initial response (not the fault of us naughty rule breakers, as those who are actually responsible would have us believe).

@SpikySara

Zero Covid is ridiculous and not possible New Zealand did it. We’re an island, there’s no reason why we can’t. Except for the fact our government is useless.

Only if you never open the border again.

I don’t think we will see riots personally. I think boris is too soft to be hard on restrictions for a long period of time and he will lift any kind of lockdown as soon as he possibly can in whether it’s sensible or not.

Unfortunately it's job losses, then home losses and hunger which will cause riots, and that's a snowball which has already left the hilltop.

New Zealand did it. We’re an island, there’s no reason why we can’t. Except for the fact our government is useless

New Zealand has a land mass larger than Britain with a lower population than Yorkshire. It is also not close to other such densely populated countries, connected infrastructure, economies etc

I don't think the vaccines will solve everything but I think they'll let it get to a point where we can collectively, as a culture, decide that it's 'good enough' and to get on with everything else. People will still die, just in smaller numbers. The NHS will run out of beds every winter still - and people will vote against even tiny tax rises to try and stop that happening - but it won't be the absolute chaos and collapse we're in now, just a 'normal' level of terrible. Every now and then there will be a long article in the Guardian about 'The forgotten pandemic: why have we stopped caring about the people dying of Covid?' and we'll read it, shake our heads and then forget about it and get on with our lives like we do when we read a news story about the effect of air pollution on the life expectancy of children, or the fact our phones are made by slaves, or climate change, or all the other things we collectively decide not to really notice so that we can continue to get on with the day-to-day. Covid will fall into that category one day, and vaccines will offer the 'excuse' to shift it over there rather than continuing in the current situation.

It won’t end. It will get worse. Papers to leave your home. Forced vaccines (by making it impossible to go anywhere without your vaccine papers). Absolute control of media. State propaganda everywhere including schools. No free thought. Shit TV as an opioid for the masses. Army on the street. No free elections or candidates so similar it won’t matter who you vote for. Disappearances of dissenters (or maybe the Russian problem of dodgy windows meaning people keep falling through them). I’m resigned to this being the rest of my life. But at least the NHS will be there as most of those who need it will have died an early death either through boredom or lack of exercise or having immune systems weakened by never going anywhere or mixing with strangers.

If you want to know how it ends, look at China. That is exactly how it ends. That will be our life.

@Worldgonecrazy

It won’t end. It will get worse. Papers to leave your home. Forced vaccines (by making it impossible to go anywhere without your vaccine papers). Absolute control of media. State propaganda everywhere including schools. No free thought. Shit TV as an opioid for the masses. Army on the street. No free elections or candidates so similar it won’t matter who you vote for. Disappearances of dissenters (or maybe the Russian problem of dodgy windows meaning people keep falling through them). I’m resigned to this being the rest of my life. But at least the NHS will be there as most of those who need it will have died an early death either through boredom or lack of exercise or having immune systems weakened by never going anywhere or mixing with strangers.

If you want to know how it ends, look at China. That is exactly how it ends. That will be our life.

This is the most ridiculous, scaremongering, dangerous post I've seen on MN in a good while and that's saying something.

@Worldgonecrazy If that’s the case, we might aswell end it all now..

How it always ends of course!!!! All of us dead and a massive inheritance bill!!!!!

I’m sure Tom Cruise will survive.

It will end after enough people have been vaccinated. I'm not confident it will be by end February though.

[quote Whatnext2018]@Worldgonecrazy If that’s the case, we might aswell end it all now..[/quote]
It's not the case. Please don't be alarmed by such drivel.

@starfro it’s not slow to mutate. C19 has mutated many, many times in the short space of a year. We just hear about this new variant as it’s significantly different.

Agree the @Hardbackwriter
After a year or so we will find a magic number of acceptable deaths from Covid in the same way there's an acceptable number of flu deaths. Patients will go back to being on trolleys in hospital corridors and the clapping etc will be replaced with moaning about TikTok dancing and waiting lists
The vulnerable and elderly will get a Covid jab with their flu jab and life will go on until the next pandemic which will hopefully not come to the UK.

Totally disagree with worldgonecrazy
They want us going on holiday, drinking in pubs, shopping in Primark, eating in Wagamama and spending tens of thousands on weddings as soon as possible.

@SpikySara

Zero Covid is ridiculous and not possible New Zealand did it. We’re an island, there’s no reason why we can’t. Except for the fact our government is useless.

We rely heavily on food and medicine imports. Closing the border is not an option and I can't see the government investing in farming so that we are self sufficient as a nation.

Some of the replies here are very dark... remind me of 'Stephen King- The Stand' which by the way is definitely not something I would recommend for a lockdown reading list!

I think February is optimistic. I think the schools will be closed until Easter. I'm taking one day at a time. Wondering if I'll ever be able to book annual leave again (NHS)
Hoping that people play by the rules or else we really are doomed.

I think schools will be closed until Easter too, when more people will have been vaccinated and we can take advantage of the warmer weather.

Then I’m going to keep everything crossed that we don’t have a mutant strain that the vaccine doesn’t work on and fucks us all over next winter.

In the meantime we desperately need the government to improve the test and trace system, pay and support people properly to self isolate and ensure that schools are truly safe and not just lip service sage which we all know was bullshit. Even with the vaccine I don’t think it would take much to tip the balance the wrong way again and we need to be prepared for that to happen. Currently the government are acting way too late with apparently no foresight, and this really needs to change.

Safe, not sage in above comment.

It won’t.

Christ. Some real cheery posts on here.

No one knows when it will end but it will. This isn’t the first pandemic the world has seen - it’s just the first one that is aided by 24 hour news, social media and Internet forums.

Literally no one I know in real life (normal, educated people) think this will ‘never end’.

I wish people who think we could have ‘been like New Zealand’ would use their brains.

Surely before all adults have their vaccinations or not long after they finish the adult jabs, the list of priority people will re-start if it turns out that it will be needed annually - which I don't think we know yet unless I have missed something.