How many teachers will be handing in the section 44 letter tomorrow and not going in?

[SoscaredforJan]

My DSis is scared to go to work tomorrow in a private primary school in Tier 3 but lowish numbers. She is not ECV but has got chemo damaged lungs so it petrified of catching Covid.

She desperately wants to follow union advice and not go in tomorrow but she’s worried that most teachers will be in as normal, she will have a black Mark against her and will be quietly pushed out.

Are there many teachers on here planning not to go in tomorrow? What do you think will happen tomorrow?

My DC don’t have teachers at all. They’re getting worksheets to go through. It seems being a teacher isn’t a job that you need to be qualified for or have experience in if they think that just anyone can pick it up!

How many people on this thread can afford not to work? To stay at home to look after children when they are already struggling to pay bills after a year of hardship. Furlough didn't apply to everyone. I am sorry to say but the hard reality of economics plays a hand in a lot of these comments.

"* teachers allowed to wear face covers will protect the students from the teacher.

For the teacher and fellow students to all enjoy a degree of safety from each other ; everyone needs to be wear one.

I’m sorry but there are loads of public facing staff in all walks of life who face a dilemma. It’s a good job the NHS aren’t going on strike! Imagine what would have happened during the War where risk of lost life was far greater. What has happened to the grit our country once had?

I don't think teachers should be off, could you imagine if nurses or doctors did the same or supermarket workers.

Yup Isa. Are you not aware of all the sectors currently unable to work and losing jobs due to covid!?!?!? Catering/hospitality/retail/arts and all the technical roles that support the arts.

Its so important we get covid rates down so that people can get backnto work.

Oh ffs does noone read the threads? Teachers will have more work than ever when working from home as ita not the same as working in the classroom.

I think people are finding teachers an easy target to blame when it should be the government. Both for letting covid spread and for not making schools safer.

Peoples really need to urgently look up employee rights and ask, beg and demand flexibility from your employers, it is a right we enjoy in the UK.

So many posters talk about working exactly the same hours with under 6 s at Home.

Everyone needs to be flexible, personally like teachers have kicked up a fuss I think those with employers not showing humanity and flexibility need to be told to do so.

Get a movement going m

I’m an ex teacher.

Please teachers stand up for yourselves. I was a member of NASUW.

If you want to die - ok go to work. That’s the bottom line.
Do you feel safe at work. No. That’s what the section44 letter states.
Have courage and say, by handing in the letter, that you don’t feel safe.
If you don’t and go into work, you are saying that you feel safe. For goodness sake have some respect for yourselves.

Surely everyone recognises case numbers are higher now than they were when we initially went into lockdown so therefore something needs to happen immediately to stop the spread?

There has been a sharp raise in cases since December and people are openly flouting the rules.

We know the NHS is almost at breaking point.

Most tier 4 areas have rising cases although most places are closed.

What else do we do? We can't close supermarkets. We can close take away sand if this helps to stop the spread then let's do this.

The only other thing to do is to close schools - surely people know this?

They are even expecting midday assistants who get paid £10 a day to go in

What absolute fucking cunts Boris and Gav are, causing all this panic, chaos, stress, anger and anxiety for all parents and carers and all staff working in schools and most educational/childcare settings. All first the sake of one day.

Why, oh why, couldn't they have got their fucking act together and announced this a few days ago? It was almost inevitable we would have to go back into lockdown, so why put people through this?

Fucking cunts.👊😡

@BigDaddyG

I’m sorry but there are loads of public facing staff in all walks of life who face a dilemma. It’s a good job the NHS aren’t going on strike! Imagine what would have happened during the War where risk of lost life was far greater. What has happened to the grit our country once had?

Oh give over.

Tell me one profession aside from teaching where a staff member spends 6 hours in one room with 30 service users/customers, all under 2m apart with No PPE.

Go on.

One.

I hope they all do - they are teachers and didnt sign up for this!

As a parent i fully support the teachers and hope they do all do it . I dont want my kids going in (tier 4 here) and i dont feel the teachers should either, I know a lot have vulnerable people at home or are themselves vulnerable.

Tell me one profession aside from teaching where a staff member spends 6 hours in one room with 30 service users/customers, all under 2m apart with No PPE

Pretty much every retail worker with the amount of people ‘exempt’. My DS caught covid this way and he has lung problems, where was his protection?

@reformedcharacters

Tell me one profession aside from teaching where a staff member spends 6 hours in one room with 30 service users/customers, all under 2m apart with No PPE

Pretty much every retail worker with the amount of people ‘exempt’. My DS caught covid this way and he has lung problems, where was his protection?

No shop involves a staff member being shut into a small store for 6 hours with 30 customers.

I'm sorry your son caught it through his retail work. But he would be at a much higher risk if he were a teacher.

BernadetteRostankowskiWolowitz

No, he’s exposed to far more than 30 people per day who do not SD and refuse to wear masks with air con spreading it nicely. Retail workers are frequently infected this way.

That’s even before we get into the sneezy hand cash (true story).

Bunsygirl
I would advise your friend to appeal the decision that the school have made! Contact Local Education Office or MP, we need our social workers

as a hospital social worker me and all the other nurses doctors, cleaners , shop workers have no choice many of us getting covid.

After tonight’s announcement I doubt there will be many teachers needed in schools!!

The virus is now known to be airborne and to live on some surfaces for quite some time.

Teachers work in a highly managed environment, knowing which same children are going to be coming in to class each day. So the same mix of households. Can ensure regular cleaning and hand sanitising takes place. Control who uses what materials in the classroom. To open their own window. Can distance from parents, have good leadership support and a professional salary.

Retail staff on crap wages are working in a free for all in supermarkets where anyone can walk in off the street, hundreds to thousands of different households in the same airspace each day, touching everything, not distancing from staff, not all wearing masks or not properly, giving them grief. Could be coughing everywhere and the staff can't complain.

Some teachers need to give their head a wobble and get some perspective if they think they're more at risk than supermarket staff.

Well theve got what they wanted now !

get some perspective if they think they're more at risk than supermarket staff.

Data shows that they are.

It’s not a competition. Can we all agree that is it shit for supermarket workers (or any other front facing workers) AND teachers and support staff? Their situations are different, both horrible. Let’s not fall into the trap of fighting amongst each other when neither are responsible for this horrendous situation. Benefits only those that want to perpetuate ‘divide and rule’.

I never said it wasn’t shit for supermarket workers but I am a bit fed up at people endlessly going ‘what about the poor supermarket workers’ when teachers say their working conditions are unsafe. The data shows schools are less safe than supermarkets. So if you’re one of the people who wheels out supermarkets against teachers, you really should stop it.