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NEU tells teachers not to go to work on Monday

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Workyticket · 02/01/2021 13:24

skwawkbox.org/2021/01/02/breaking-union-tells-teachers-not-to-go-to-work-on-monday/

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year5teacher · 02/01/2021 18:30

Also, some things about teaching is way easier than being a TA. I don’t have to follow someone else’s classroom culture even if I disagree with it, I don’t have to constantly be at the beck and call of someone else asking me to do useless tasks... these things add up. I wouldn’t do TA work again. So much shit (literally) is handed to TAs, I ALWAYS had to do all the intimate care which was sometimes daily in reception.

ChloeCrocodile · 02/01/2021 18:30

Schools shouldn't be closed for long as surely the government have clear scientific evidence to challenge the closures.

Precisely. The government can bring the threat of a s44 walkout to a very swift close if they release the evidence. If they don’t have any evidence to indicate it is actually safe then the walkout is justified.

Health and safety legislation applies to all workplaces and we should be glad that it does.

wizzbangfizz · 02/01/2021 18:31

The data shows that the case rises in children are the least across all age groups and shutting the schools will have a minimal impact. Our primary has imposed strict measures to ensure their safety - why can't that continue?

I've never had a lower opinion of the teaching unions. But then again it won't be the people in state jobs with cosy middle class incomes who will suffer will it?

sausageathlete · 02/01/2021 18:32

Salaried TA here, not agency. No, none of us pay tax even if we work full schools hours - the minimum wage is below the tax threshold. The lack of appreciation for TAs on MN has been pissing me off of late. Teachers have been slated left right and centre but there has been some recognition of how hard they work but TAs are ignored.

Beebityboo · 02/01/2021 18:32

I've just seen on twitter Boris Johnson will be on Andrew Marr in the morning?! Shouldn't he be holding a cobra meeting or something? If true it doesn't fill me with confidence there will be any news about schools tomorrow.

LadyPenelope68 · 02/01/2021 18:32

@Furries
@year5teacher** You really are in unpleasant person and from your comments and derogatory digs at other education staff, I don’t think there is any chance that you are actually a teacher. If you are, I feel very sorry for you and for your colleagues who have to deal with your lack of empathy.
@LadyPenelope68. Eh? I haven’t seen anything in their posts that warrant that. Are you sure you tagged the right person?

OMG, it’s tagged the wrong person! Thank you for pointing this out. @year5teacher massive apologies!!!

SeldomFollowedIt · 02/01/2021 18:32

@year5teacher

As a TA I totally agree with that. It’s probably why I’ll end up doing my PGCE. The teacher I currently work underneath is unhinged and has pulled actual faces at me behind my back!!
It’s incredible how immature she is. If I become a teacher, and it’s a big if, I shall never in a million years treat my TA the way she does.

FrippEnos · 02/01/2021 18:35

notevenat20

Still posting the same trite bullshit

Beebityboo · 02/01/2021 18:37

He's going to go on Marr to say schools are safe again isn't he? I'm going to be forced to lie to keep my kids and I safe, gambling that schools will close at some point in the next two weeks. If they don't i'll be forced to send them in. Shit shit shit.

FrippEnos · 02/01/2021 18:40

@sausageathlete

Teachers already were doing more work for no extra pay even before Covid19

I don't think I've seen a single teacher on MN acknowledge how much work TAs have been doing for no extra pay when they are already paid minimum wage. I have done fours weeks work unpaid to care for key workers children and had to plan activities for that (which also cost me money) which was a financial hardship because I was having to drive to work and spend money on petrol to get there (£15 a week) and that's ignored by teachers who earn so much more than TAs.

I think that you are wrong about this.

But just in case

Our TAs were
chasing up LACs
Sorting out work
making regular phonecalls to ECHP pupils and parents
Delivering work
as well as being in the schools with the teachers looking after KW pupils.
And much much more.

LastTrainEast · 02/01/2021 18:44

Of course the schools are not safe and of course they should be closed. To everyone including key-workers. Just because someone has a job vital to the country is no reason for teachers to be forced to risk their lives. We need not worry if that includes medical staff because like someone said "The NHS should do the same".

Close the schools and the hospitals (and every other place that is risky) and just wait it out. That'll work.

Redbirds · 02/01/2021 18:45

@wizzbangfizz

The data shows that the case rises in children are the least across all age groups and shutting the schools will have a minimal impact. Our primary has imposed strict measures to ensure their safety - why can't that continue?

I've never had a lower opinion of the teaching unions. But then again it won't be the people in state jobs with cosy middle class incomes who will suffer will it?

You are probably right it will be the elderly and vulnerable they pass it onto.
year5teacher · 02/01/2021 18:46

[quote SeldomFollowedIt]@year5teacher

As a TA I totally agree with that. It’s probably why I’ll end up doing my PGCE. The teacher I currently work underneath is unhinged and has pulled actual faces at me behind my back!!
It’s incredible how immature she is. If I become a teacher, and it’s a big if, I shall never in a million years treat my TA the way she does.[/quote]
I relate soooo much to this. I worked with a teacher once who I genuinely feel was basically evil, it was soul destroying! Maybe it’s the same one?! 😆
Being a TA is really good experience though, because you understand kind of inherently how to communicate with them effectively when you become a teacher. And you can empathise with the really crap parts of the job.

walksen · 02/01/2021 18:47

"The data shows that the case rises in children are the least across all age groups"

Care to share a link to this data?

AlbertaAlberta · 02/01/2021 18:47

@LastTrainEast

Of course the schools are not safe and of course they should be closed. To everyone including key-workers. Just because someone has a job vital to the country is no reason for teachers to be forced to risk their lives. We need not worry if that includes medical staff because like someone said "The NHS should do the same".

Close the schools and the hospitals (and every other place that is risky) and just wait it out. That'll work.

All the doctors I know are saying the schools must close. Not one has said "ugh what? Why do they get to stay off work and I have to go in, god"...you know, because they are 12.
hedgehogger1 · 02/01/2021 18:48

@wizzbangfizz

The data shows that the case rises in children are the least across all age groups and shutting the schools will have a minimal impact. Our primary has imposed strict measures to ensure their safety - why can't that continue?

I've never had a lower opinion of the teaching unions. But then again it won't be the people in state jobs with cosy middle class incomes who will suffer will it?

Can you share a link to your data please?
Furries · 02/01/2021 18:49

@LadyPenelope68 - no worries! Thought it seemed odd judging by other posts from you, so decided to go for a measured query to you rather than launching in on you 🤣

sausageathlete · 02/01/2021 18:50

I'm sure that they were FrippEnos but I do not, and have not, seen the appreciation from either teachers or parents during the nightmare that has been covid in schools.

AlbertaAlberta · 02/01/2021 18:50

Aren't 12*

Noellodee · 02/01/2021 18:52

Of course you can't see a link to the data, because it's bollocks.

LolaSmiles · 02/01/2021 18:54

He's going to go on Marr to say schools are safe again isn't he?
Or course, after all Boris Johnson has a brilliant message about the safety of schools: 'schools are safe, and we need to thank teachers and staff for making them safe, it's just the mixing of households in schools that isn't safe'.

Our own prime minister admitted in a press conference that levels of household mixing in schools isn't safe!

But people want to hate on the unions and the government is banking on unions challenging the government and then the government can blame the unions for something Boris already admitted in the last couple of days

itsgettingweird · 02/01/2021 18:58

@justgeton

I wonder how much of this is because a vaccine is now available.

There wasn't this fuss last Summer. Now the vaccine is available it smacks of getting themselves to the front of the queue come what may.

Yeah, nothing to do with the numbers, the increase in numbers, the increase in children catching and transmitting it and the fact school children have had the highest infection rates. Confused
FrippEnos · 02/01/2021 19:01

@Noellodee

Of course you can't see a link to the data, because it's bollocks.
you could produce the data to prove that.

but you won't because you are talking bollocks

itsgettingweird · 02/01/2021 19:02

@Beebityboo

I've just seen on twitter Boris Johnson will be on Andrew Marr in the morning?! Shouldn't he be holding a cobra meeting or something? If true it doesn't fill me with confidence there will be any news about schools tomorrow.
No but Andrew Marr will grill him which is a start.
wizzbangfizz · 02/01/2021 19:02

Data shared on Twitter by rennee hoenderkamp (sp?) who has also refuted a lot of the scaremongering "wards full of children with covid" claims.