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Is anyone else more scared now than they were in March?

162 replies

Swearlikemalcolmtucker · 31/12/2020 21:36

Everything just seems so dark, and even with the vaccines it’s got to get worse before it gets better.
I don’t recall feeling like this in March but I’m genuinely scared now. I’m hoping my health anxiety is at the root of most of it as I’ve been able to stay pretty upbeat and positive until now, I kept thinking vaccine, warmer weather, things will get better but now it seems harder to see the light at the end of the tunnel.
Seeing the celebrations in NZ is like looking into another world

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Scrapper142 · 31/12/2020 23:39

I've kept to the rules but always had doubts because of the knock-on to economy, waiting lists, lack of early cancer diagnosis, education,etc.

Until now I felt there was some containment to it. The last few days have changed that. I see the daily numbers at our hospital. It's worse than it's ever been and we're two weeks behind tier 4. I'm non-clinical and we've been asked about availability to support on the wards in anyway we can.

My housemate has returned from work (care) where a colleague was telling everyone they're off to a twelve person party. On her way back only other cars on the road where taxis.

pursuedbyablackdog · 31/12/2020 23:40

Tootle what if you dc get ill and need A&E?

The entire point of first lockdown was so NHS didn't get overwhelmed and emergency/ life saving treatment could carry on. In 10-14 days that life saving treatment is unlikely to be available. I've mentioned this on another thread, but I'll write it here as well.
The British medical journal this month stated that 20 out of 100 people will be severely/ critically unwell. That equates to 20% we've had 150,000 confirmed cases in three days. That's a lot of beds needed, then add in all the other 'normal' winter pressures and illnesses...

pursuedbyablackdog · 31/12/2020 23:41

That should say the BMJ stated that 20 out of 100 people with Covid ...

Thewiseoneincognito · 31/12/2020 23:42

Those saying they’re not scared of covid- I would rethink that stance.

It’s evil. True many have mild symptoms but quite a lot have moderate or severe ones that’s excluding those who don’t end up needing oxygen or dying from it. We should all be scared of it because fear makes you aware constantly.

Do no to let your guard down because it’s a literal gamble as to how it will affect you.

KimchiLaLa · 31/12/2020 23:44

Yes I am. I've been safe throughout but I'm really scared now. It just seems so much more worse and much more transmissible.

Goodbye2020Hello2021 · 31/12/2020 23:50

Yes. Three of my closest friends lost parents to Covid in 2020 and I haven't seen mine since the summer. I also work in a school and last term was dreadful so not looking forward to this one.

hobbyiscodefordogging · 31/12/2020 23:53

@Thewiseoneincognito

Those saying they’re not scared of covid- I would rethink that stance.

It’s evil. True many have mild symptoms but quite a lot have moderate or severe ones that’s excluding those who don’t end up needing oxygen or dying from it. We should all be scared of it because fear makes you aware constantly.

Do no to let your guard down because it’s a literal gamble as to how it will affect you.

No, I will not be scared into this. As I've already said, we had a much bigger battle in our family with cancer this year. Cancer scares me. Something that 50% of us will get and doesn't yet have a cure. Covid, that's almost entirely survivable? Nah. (And yes, I do know people who have had it. Almost all experienced it like flu. One had to go to hospital briefly. Another is still in hospital. I still know way more people affected by cancer.)

SaltyAF · 31/12/2020 23:53

I can't allow myself to be scared, I'll be face to face with hundreds of pupils again within a couple of weeks. I'm very, very angry though; as much with friends who don't care because they're alright Jack as the government's cynical mismanagement. I feel very much alone IRL.

musicalfrog · 31/12/2020 23:57

Definitely more scared, because now I know how awful home schooling is (I naively thought it would be easy back in March), also feels like covid is closing in. 🥺🥺🥺

PrincessNutNuts · 01/01/2021 00:02

@Itisasecret

I’m not scared. I’m very, very angry that this Government had the benefit of hindsight. Yet they let it rip through schools and now we have a nice mutation.

They gaslighted for months about safe schools and now they are the main driver, they’ve started closing them. Some schools cannot provide remote/kw/v provisos because of a lack of staff. I have 2 exam year children as I wanted schools to be open, I could see it was a fucking disaster about to happen.

I literally cannot believe they have made the same mistakes, again and again and they are hell bent on doing it all over again.

My only worry is the NHS. Young people are not dying but they are needing critical care. If you have an asthma attack, a car accident or chest issues. There is no guarantee you’ll get the help you need and that could happen to anyone.

People should be very angry.

This.

This month is going to be a horror again.

And it was preventable.

SweetMeadow · 01/01/2021 00:08

When you look at the government covid charts and statistics, there is literally nothing there to be reassured by. It is sobering. And an absolute tragedy that we are in this position.

PrincessNutNuts · 01/01/2021 00:20

It didn't seem to get near my parents before. But now people they know have got it. Shock

Their area's in Tier 4. (Won't be enough)

Clusterfckintolerant · 01/01/2021 00:22

Uneasy rather than scared. The patient profiles are changing to those without underlying issues, in younger age groups. The numbers are huge. I'm also angry for all the reasons discussed above, but the latest move by Hancock about over promising on vaccine supply and delaying second dose has me genuinely wondering how many deaths will result from this alone. Scared? I should be. No. Uneasy, outraged even.

ATieLikeRichardGere · 01/01/2021 00:32

We could have done without this new strain ... and plenty of things are going wrong in my own life...but for some reason I do feel like this will be over soon and despite lots of health anxiety in general I haven’t been feeling scared about covid since the very start when it was an unknown. About 1 in 67 people had been vaccinated and it will surely start going faster now. The days are already getting longer.

Iremembertheelderlykoreanlady · 01/01/2021 00:34

I'm morw scared than March, because at least then we were in lockdown, people were taking it seriously.

Now, primary school children in my area are going back on Monday.

In the first lockdown I felt reasonably safe as a CV person. Now I don't as I have to send my child to school even though I can support remote learning here. Send him in or lose his place in a school that he loves.those are my options.

I've just said happy New year to people on a zoom call. I don't feel happy, or like it's a new year.

PrincessNutNuts · 01/01/2021 00:49

The English Virus Variant has a different profile. There are some very young people seriously ill with it.

And the government are fucking with the vaccines to cover their lies about vaccinating millions in football stadiums.

All my optimism has evaporated.

Elephant4 · 01/01/2021 00:55

I'm not scared as such. But I am worried and more worried than I was in March.

For a start, back then we thought it would all be over by the summer. No one can be daft enough to think it will only last a few more months now.

The new variant is so much more contagious - how can that not be a worry? Locking down this time seems to be having little to no effect (and yes we are locked down in Tier 4) - but also people are tired of it all and have no trust in the government, so won't follow the rules so carefully as they did back in March.

The vaccine should give us hope. But it doesn't give me hope. I don't know why. It's too good to be true? Our government is so bloody useless and will be incapable of rolling it out? Who knows. I'm just not hopeful. At all.

NovemberR · 01/01/2021 01:00

I'm not sure. Last spring I was very anxious about catching Covid because I have minor health issues that mean my immune system isn't brilliant and viruses I catch tend to wipe me out. I was as careful as I could be.

Then DC (Y11) went back to school and I was fatalistic. By October we'd all tested positive and I am now in long Covid, not able to work and scared this will last months or years.

So my fears have changed slightly. No longer worried I'll catch it at least..

ATieLikeRichardGere · 01/01/2021 01:10

I never thought it would be over by the summer at all. I’m sure the vaccine rollout won’t go that smoothly but even so, it hasn’t got off to a bad start. In some sense it will never be over because it’s endemic now and it will evolve, but I still think things will get more normal soonish.

Agoodbriskwalk · 01/01/2021 01:10

I don't think I feel anything anymore. I can't. We are just sitting ducks, with kids in school.

ATieLikeRichardGere · 01/01/2021 01:12

Also there isn’t good evidence to suggest an age profile difference for the B117 strain. It could yet appear and we should obviously be cautious but we have to look at evidence over anecdote.

stopgap · 01/01/2021 01:15

I’m in a more fragile state of mind, rather than scared. I live overseas and it’s almost a year since I last saw my parents in the UK. Not knowing the endpoint has sent me into a tailspin multiple times.

lavenderlou · 01/01/2021 01:20

I live in one of the major hotspots and yes, I do feel more scared now. At one point last week, the infection rate in my particular town was at 1800 per 100,000.

There's a lot of blaming the public for non-compliance but round here, everybody seems to be complying with the rules. Everyone wears masks, there don't seem to be large gatherings, people are being sensible in the shops. From walking around the streets at Christmas, it all seemed very quiet and people didn't seem to be mixing at all.

It makes me very worried about the new strain that has gripped us round here. Nothing seems to have changed about how people have been behaving since about October time, but our infection rate has soared.

The hospitals around here are at breaking point. In all likelihood, if I catch Covid (which seems increasingly likely round here at the moment) I will have it mildly, but from what I've seen first hand perfectly healthy people can end up hospitalised. Two otherwise healthy colleagues in their 30s/40s were hospitalised in the Autumn. The hospitals cannot cope with the demand at the moment. If anyone in my family were to suddenly need hospital treatment for any other reason, their treatment would likely be compromised due to the pressure on hospitals round here. It truly does make me very worried and I feel very sympathetic to NHS workers who are having to work in such conditions.

Erictheavocado · 01/01/2021 01:22

I am petrified. In March, I was merely concerned. I am CV and in March my HT sent me home with a list of jobs I could do from home. When the school opened to selected year groups, though I was in work, I was segregated from everyone else. Since September, we've been pretty much back to normal. I spent Christmas isolating as several children in one of the classes I work in, tested positive. Every bubble that has burst at our school, has been as a result of a child, not an adult, testing positive. These are the children that don't catch it or spread it, remember. Each bubble that has burst has then had further children test positive within the isolation period.
Although our area is one of those where primary schools are remaining closed, apart from certain children, our ht has told us today that staff will be in as normal, throughout. Anyone not working within the KW bubbles, will be preparing lessons, teaching online and sharing the KW bubbles teaching as well.
I have no confidence that I will be able to avoid it this time round and am petrified, as if I do get it, I don't see a good outcome for me quite apart from the risk of passing it on to my CV, older dh.

boon · 01/01/2021 01:23

Yes I am. I don't want my children to go back to school. Especially now close contacts of someone covid positive at school wont be told to isolate. Why should my children be guinea pigs for covid!!?? The numbers right now are terrifying.