Page 4 | Risk from playgrounds

Sitt · 29/12/2020 20:53

I’m sure it’s all goady fuckery, but there are quite a few posters who like to give the impression that this isn’t about covid or anything, but about breaking people. Really making them miserable. Like they need their comeuppance for something that’s not clear - maybe having enjoyed themselves at some point in their lives or something?

trulydelicious · 29/12/2020 22:16

@Frokelius

I think your comments are definitely OTT

There is something that feels uncomfortable about DC and families out enjoying themselves when our poor nurses and NHS staff are all rushed off their feet in ICUs

I don't think anyone is suggesting that children should not enjoy themselves. It's more that they are being taken to playgrounds where it is quite clear by now that they will catch and spread the virus and doctors/nurses will be left to pick up the pieces.

Sitt · 29/12/2020 22:31

No, it is not clear that playgrounds are a high risk for spread of covid at all.

trulydelicious · 29/12/2020 22:38

@Sitt

No, it is not clear that playgrounds are a high risk for spread of covid at all

I think it's wishful thinking on your part

What could possibly make you believe that children on top of each other, breathing/coughing into others' faces, touching everything, etc will not lead to transmission? No amount of hand gel or fresh air is going to make these environments safe.

TheKeatingFive · 29/12/2020 22:47

Where is the evidence that playgrounds are spreading Covid?

Oh wait, there isn’t any.

We’ve known from very early on that outdoor settings are much lower risk.

BogRollBOGOF · 29/12/2020 22:56

I was lifting my 7yo into playgrounds in June because he was showing depressed behaviour after 3 months of social isolation, the world's dullest birthday and feeling totally rejected by his friends.

There is no justification to ban playgrounds. Formite transmission has been debunked. There was no spike in children's rates from their opening in July.

I cried with happiness seeing the council chap cutting the chains off my local playground on 4th July.

If playgrounds close again, there will be a sudden boom in sales of bolt cutters.

BogRollBOGOF · 29/12/2020 22:57

[quote trulydelicious]@Sitt

No, it is not clear that playgrounds are a high risk for spread of covid at all

I think it's wishful thinking on your part

What could possibly make you believe that children on top of each other, breathing/coughing into others' faces, touching everything, etc will not lead to transmission? No amount of hand gel or fresh air is going to make these environments safe.[/quote]
Then avoid them. They are not compulsory.

Bluntasduck · 29/12/2020 23:09

What could possibly make you believe that children on top of each other, breathing/coughing into others' faces, touching everything, etc will not lead to transmission? No amount of hand gel or fresh air is going to make these environments safe.

We are almost always the only people in the playground but okay.

trulydelicious · 29/12/2020 23:09

@BogRollBOGOF

I was lifting my 7yo into playgrounds in June

It's clear you use them regardless. But I think the OP's question is whether people think are safe or not.

But how much risk do you think there is when they’re quite busy

trulydelicious · 29/12/2020 23:11

@Bluntasduck

We are almost always the only people in the playground but okay

I assume that when they are not busy the risk is likely to be low, yes

ReesMoggsGlasses · 29/12/2020 23:18

Oh do fcuk off with your risk

These are kids, they've been spreading germs since time begun, it's what's made us so flipping healthy and strong, if we all start locking ourselves away indefinitely the common cold will kill us!!

Talk about OTT scaremongering

trulydelicious · 29/12/2020 23:28

@ReesMoggsGlasses

If kids were at risk of becoming seriously ill if they caught Covid, do you think people would still think playgrounds are safe places and still take their children there?

I don't think so

ReesMoggsGlasses · 29/12/2020 23:29

[quote trulydelicious]@ReesMoggsGlasses

If kids were at risk of becoming seriously ill if they caught Covid, do you think people would still think playgrounds are safe places and still take their children there?

I don't think so[/quote]
Hello, they aren't at risk, oh my Lord, you covidiots

Sitt · 29/12/2020 23:47

[quote trulydelicious]@Sitt

No, it is not clear that playgrounds are a high risk for spread of covid at all

I think it's wishful thinking on your part

What could possibly make you believe that children on top of each other, breathing/coughing into others' faces, touching everything, etc will not lead to transmission? No amount of hand gel or fresh air is going to make these environments safe.[/quote]
Why would I take my children to a playground where that was going on? Not all playgrounds are the same.

SimonJT · 30/12/2020 06:56

[quote trulydelicious]@Sitt

No, it is not clear that playgrounds are a high risk for spread of covid at all

I think it's wishful thinking on your part

What could possibly make you believe that children on top of each other, breathing/coughing into others' faces, touching everything, etc will not lead to transmission? No amount of hand gel or fresh air is going to make these environments safe.[/quote]
What playgrounds are you going?

I have never witnessed anything like that in a playground.

TheKeatingFive · 30/12/2020 07:03

If kids were at risk of becoming seriously ill if they caught Covid, do you think people would still think playgrounds are safe places and still take their children there?

But they’re not.

If you can only make your point by saying ‘what if this disease was worse’ then you don’t have a point.

midnightstar66 · 30/12/2020 07:29

They didn’t shut during the last lockdown so can’t imagine them shutting again.

What? Yes they did. For quite a long time! We know more about the transmission now though and know that surface transmission, especially hard surfaces like that in playgrounds, is extremely unlikely and that the disease does not spread well outdoors. Unless the new strain affects this then hopefully they won't close. My dc are old enough not to need them now but I'd hate to have no access with a smaller dc. I do think some parents need to be more mindful though while using the parks. I walked through out local one yesterday with ddog and it was absolutely heaving with large groups of adults standing close together chatting and having picnics together crammed on to benches. I can see a return to closed parks and those loitering being asked to move on of this continues while the spread ramps up again.

Sitt · 30/12/2020 07:30

Germany, amongst other countries, never closed playgrounds. Here they were concerned about transmission through touch at first, but all the evidence so far has suggested that outdoors, UV etc lower risks of transmission and transmission via surfaces is also less likely. Of course risks aren’t eradicated completely. But saying that “it is quite clear” that playgrounds where children are catching and transmitting covid is nonsense - the evidence all points to schools and childcare settings and other family members. If you stopped children going anywhere other than their home and the playground then it probably would become the place where most transmission occurred because there wouldn’t be anywhere else - but it would still be at a low level because as the months have gone on we have seen that that sort of setting is lower risk for transmission. It’s not indoors, poorly ventilated and crowded.

And I can tell you right now that many many HCPs are taking their children to playgrounds too. It’s not like they’re completely separate from society, many have small children too

Sitt · 30/12/2020 07:31

““ They didn’t shut during the last lockdown so can’t imagine them shutting again.”

What? Yes they did. For quite a long time! ”

I expect they are referring to November rather than March

OverTheRainbow88 · 30/12/2020 07:32

They didn’t shut during the last lockdown so can’t imagine them shutting again.

Yes sorry, nov lockdown