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Reality of Primary Schools

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LadyPenelope68 · 29/12/2020 16:03

Read to the end if you can...

Government to primary school staff in September: Yes, we know you can't safely distance due to the nature of primary classrooms, oh and don't wear PPE please as it negatively impacts on teaching, but you're fine, crack on...
Staff: Errrrr okay then, whatever is best for the children
Government: Keep going until Friday 18th December, it's fine
Staff (many of which have now contracted the virus from asymptomatic children): Okay, if you say so, we would actually rather be fully open, we need to teach, feed and look after the physical and mental wellbeing of these children we care about
Government on 19th December: Oh bugger, there's a new variant, children are in fact super spreaders, we know you've been mixing with people from 31 other bubbles all day every day for 4 months, but you're now in tier 4, stay home, don't see anyone for the whole holidays.
Staff: Hmmmm, funny how that happened the day after schools closed, but okay we'll continue to be compliant
Government: Right primary staff back to it on 4th Jan, you'll be fine, but still no PPE, no Covid or anti-body testing, no vaccine for staff who want it. Did we say children are super spreaders and this new variant spreads really easily? Nah, we didn't really mean it, put those invisible shields back up, you'll be fine
Staff: We would rather be back in school, but how about 1 week of remote learning to allow all the Covid that will have been spread round on Christmas day (due to everyone ignoring your tier 4 rules) to surface and clear before we welcome 31 bubbles back into each room. We know children don't seem to be affected by the virus, but we are! We have remote learning sussed now, 1 week is doable, we've got this!
Government: Nah, just crack on
Staff: Maybe put us as priority on the vaccine list then (please?) so we can protect ourselves as we still have no PPE. It will help to stop schools closing due to lack of staff - which is what we all want
Government: Sorry, what did you say? We were busy slagging you off in the press again, just crack on
Staff: Sod You! We'll get jobs as a delivery drivers (except you know full well we won't because we are passionate about what we do. In fact the Government are solely relying on this detail). Good luck recruiting primary school staff in the future though!
**It seems primary and nursery staff are the only key workers still working with no PPE, yet are in close contact with at least 31 contacts from 31 different bubbles on a daily basis. They have continued to willingly work from day 1 of lockdown back in March (not sat at home doing chuff all which the media may have made you believe) and have successfully juggled face to face and remote learning throughout (whilst also being classroom cleaners), sometimes while being ill with Covid themselves. They have just cracked on and not complained once about the vulnerable position they are in. We all prefer the children to be in school rather than at home. However, it's time to offer them some protection in some way, especially if things are as bad as they are reported to be - or are they? Time to cut them some slack and show a bit of respect too...
Where are the figures which show how many primary school staff have now contracted the virus, how many have been hospitalised by it and how many now have 'Long Covid' yet continue to work despite their exhaustion. All the talk around primary schools is that the children won't suffer if they do contract it, no mention of the millions of unprotected staff who crack on regardless. We do our jobs because we care and we are grateful to still have jobs, but it's time for the government to listen...
#TimeForTheTruth
#TimeForProtection
#StopTheContradictions

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noblegiraffe · 29/12/2020 16:09

I’m so sorry Flowers

Primary kids should be quarantined before sending back to school, particularly tier 4. The infection rates before Christmas in primary were mad.

BG2015 · 29/12/2020 16:14

5 staff in my school came down with Covid on the last day of term and into the following week.

5 children also positive. Christmas has been ruined for them.

Our only silver lining is that we've just had our own 2 week circuit breaker to stop that particular outbreak but who knows who people have been mixing with over the past 10 days.

I'm dreading going back. I teach Y2

Snibril · 29/12/2020 16:23

I am so relieved to read this. I've been feeling so frustrated at the lack of disregard for school staff. I'm terrified.
I spent two hours composing a letter to my local MP today illustrating all the moments in my day when I'm at risk from the tears and runny noses (all par for the course in KS1) to the cuts and grazes, wobbly teeth, bumped heads at playtime (also normal) to the child who was desperate to show me she'd learned to whistle and blew spit in my face (still normal!) I love what I do and I will never not do the job that's in front of me but the only PPE I have is that which I've purchased myself.

My hands looked like they'd been rubbed with a cheese grater from the continual hand washing.

MillieEpple · 29/12/2020 16:24

Flowers its rubbish.
We also had 4 staff recieve positive covid tests during the first few days of the break. I guess the school being closed might have contained it to those staff but I feel so depressed they werent protected. I couldnt even drop food to them as we had to isolate as contacts / i have a bad cough which tested negative.

treeslets · 29/12/2020 16:36

Thank you for also mentioning nurseries, we are often forgotten. We have no PPE, it's impossible to distance from young children and very difficult to distance from other staff. You can't distance from a parent handing you their baby at the door, yet neither staff or parents have to wear masks for this! A friend recently asked how I'm finding wearing a mask all day- we aren't allowed to wear masks! Made me wonder how many other people think we have some sort of protection!

phlebasconsidered · 29/12/2020 16:42

Everything you have said times a million. After over 20 years teaching I am now out of goodwill. 50, clinically vulnerable, working in a classroom with too many kids and no ventilation in a tier 4 area. Still no social distancing, still handling students that require it, still touching 96 books they've touched every day.. And no vaccine, mask, perspex or even working sink for me. Just some hand gel. Fingers crossed my vulnerable mum get a vaccine before I bring it home to her eh?

I am working to rule, no more. And as soon as this is over i'm leaving. I've told my family to kick up a stink and sue the dfe if I die. I'll do it myself if i'm stuck with long covid.

Fortherosesjoni70 · 29/12/2020 16:44

@phlebasconsidered

Everything you have said times a million. After over 20 years teaching I am now out of goodwill. 50, clinically vulnerable, working in a classroom with too many kids and no ventilation in a tier 4 area. Still no social distancing, still handling students that require it, still touching 96 books they've touched every day.. And no vaccine, mask, perspex or even working sink for me. Just some hand gel. Fingers crossed my vulnerable mum get a vaccine before I bring it home to her eh?

I am working to rule, no more. And as soon as this is over i'm leaving. I've told my family to kick up a stink and sue the dfe if I die. I'll do it myself if i'm stuck with long covid.

I have also told my dh to absolutely kick up a stink if i die too.
Marmite27 · 29/12/2020 16:48

@treeslets

Thank you for also mentioning nurseries, we are often forgotten. We have no PPE, it's impossible to distance from young children and very difficult to distance from other staff. You can't distance from a parent handing you their baby at the door, yet neither staff or parents have to wear masks for this! A friend recently asked how I'm finding wearing a mask all day- we aren't allowed to wear masks! Made me wonder how many other people think we have some sort of protection!
At our nursery both staff and children wear masks at drop off / pick up which is done outdoors.

They also have assigned staff to the bubbles, they can be unmasked, but if relief staff or cleaning staff go in those rooms they’re masked for 100% of the time in there.

It can be done.

DBML · 29/12/2020 16:50

Call in sick. Think I’m joking?
Even better, go on long term stress leave. No one values you nor cares about you, so why should you keep giving your loyalty to our education system like this? Imagine if all primary teachers went on the sick. Everyone would be fucked. I mean, give it a few weeks and you might all be anyway Hmm

I’m sorry, I know people will be outraged by my attitude, but my attitude is a direct result of the consideration and care that’s been shown to me and other school staff. I’ve stopped caring, I can’t give a shit and I bloody well can’t wait to leave teaching for good - just got to sell this damn house.

Cantaloupeisland · 29/12/2020 16:53

👏👏👏

LadyPenelope68 · 29/12/2020 17:09

I’m just so angry and frustrated hence me starting a thread. I’ve spent 24 out of the last 30 days isolating due to positive cases in my class (Y6), I feel like I don’t have a life.😢

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ColourMeExhausted · 29/12/2020 17:11

We are respecting all school staff in Scotland and that includes nursery and primary. Cannot understand why England aren't doing the same. It's shocking.

Glitterynails · 29/12/2020 17:14

Accurate.

lonelyplanet · 29/12/2020 17:19

I agree with everything you've said. I'm really scared to be back up close to 32 year 6 next week.

Evvyjb · 29/12/2020 17:19

You're right. Bloody wish SOMEONE would listen though.

Sounds really shitty, but could we have a public thank you? Just a little one?

Timeturnerplease · 29/12/2020 17:20

Well done. Why can’t anyone hear us when we say we DON’T want to close schools, we just want some PPE and some actual FUNDING to pay for cleaning supplies and supply cover so we have some semblance of a safe staffing level.

Timeturnerplease · 29/12/2020 17:21

And nursery/pre school workers are bloody heroes. I’d have no issue whatsoever with those looking after 2yo DD wearing PPE.

Khara · 29/12/2020 17:28

I'm a TA in Y6. On the first Monday of the holiday I was informed by my head that a child in my class had tested positive so we had to isolate over Christmas. (Incidentally ours is now the fourth out of seven classes in the school to have to isolate since September.)

I also started to develop some symptoms so took a test on Christmas Eve (which was negative, thank goodness) but I spent Christmas wondering if my time was up. That might seem melodramatic but I'm in my 50s, obese and pre-diabetic, and as well suffer from a few auto-immune conditions.

So, yes, I'd probably be ok but if I died it would be brushed off as "underlying health-condition" even though I have nothing that would actually class me as "clinically vulnerable" in a risk-assessment.

I'm starting to get really scared about going back. We're tier 3 with a high number of cases (800/100000ish.) There is nothing stopping the virus spreading if it gets in our bubble - the only thing different to usual is more hand-washing. Other than that everything is operating as it was pre-COVID except that we are not mixing with other classes. And with a high rate of infection in the community it is pretty likely that the virus will get in - so basically it's a waiting game now.

I just feel like school staff are being treated like acceptable collateral damage in all of this. In fact, I imagine that the government is trying to assess how many teacher/TA deaths the public will tolerate - I think, (given the vitriol which is spouted about teachers on here sometimes) it will be quite a high threshold.

Sorry if this sounds morbid but it is how I'm feeling right now. The government know that infection in primary school children is almost at the level of that in secondary and that both are way higher than any other age group at the moment but they continue to gas-light us and pretend everything is fine.

And don't even get me started on the shit they're spouting about the army...

Scottishgirl85 · 29/12/2020 17:31

I feel very sorry for teachers, they are unprotected Flowers

However at our primary school, the home learning is awful. It is random Twinkl sheets uploaded to the school website. I honestly don't know what our teachers did during 3 months of lockdown and subsequent bubble closures in autumn. There was no check-in with pupils. It has created negativity amongst parents who killed themselves to somehow be a teacher whilst holding down their full-time jobs. I understand this won't be the same in all cases.

Glitterynails · 29/12/2020 17:34

@Scottishgirl85 poor leadership from your school isn’t a reason to risk the health of school staff. Also was the school not open for key worker childcare? I did teach online during the first lockdown but my colleagues and I were also providing key worker childcare and delivering free schools meals.

DBML · 29/12/2020 17:35

@Scottishgirl85

They were largely ‘redeployed’ by the govt and put into primary schools (often not even their own) caring for the vulnerable and key worker children. Hours were often extended to 5pm.
You wouldn’t expect a member of staff to do that all week and then try to also remote educate, mark and phone children’s parents?

There will be no redeployment going forward. TAs and support staff to man the hubs in future.

noblegiraffe · 29/12/2020 17:35

Some people post like teachers being in school with no mitigation measures is punishment for twinkl worksheets during lockdown.

Everyone deserves a safe workplace environment regardless of job performance.

Scottishgirl85 · 29/12/2020 17:39

Oh absolutely, I really feel for teachers, it is an awful situation and they have been badly let down.
I just wanted to explain the other side, but hopefully our experience is the minority. It is a wonderful school but for some reason they just haven't mastered homeschooling.

Bluewavescrashing · 29/12/2020 17:40

Truth.

I teach year 1. Have been very lucky in my area and school so far but I'm so anxious about going back. Also anxious about home learning as their age means I know they won't make good progress. Argh there's no good situation either way 😔

MillieEpple · 29/12/2020 17:40

Ah the well known collective punishment of "unecessary exposure to virus' that is dished out for the crime of 'twinkle worksheet'

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