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Poll: Have you broken the rules? (and WYBU)

245 replies

CrazyToast · 29/12/2020 12:05

Inspired by a suggestion on another post (about whether more people are breaking the rules than MN discussion suggests), here is a poll:

YABU: I have never broken the covid rules
YANBU: I have broken the covid rules at least once (even if it was in a tiny way).

Honest anonymous answers!

I know it should be in the Coronavirus area but there is no voting facility there. Feel free to discuss if the results show people are BU or NBU.

OP posts:
LakieLady · 30/12/2020 08:37

@joystir59

Lost my partner this year to cancer and have needed a certain amount of support so have an extended support bubble and make no apologies for it. I would have become suicidally depressed without this support.
Sorry for your loss, @joystir59. Flowers

I lost my DP very suddenly 8 weeks ago, and I, too, am fearful for my MH. I was coping while we were in T2, but T4 restrictions are especially hellish when you're grieving and live alone.

trappedsincesundaymorn · 30/12/2020 08:40

8 people at my dads house after mum' funeral in April( only my dad my sister and me went to the funeral, the others joined us afterwards), and 15 people at the same place in November after dad's funeral. We all hugged on both occasions as well. Anybody who has a problem with that needs to take a hard look at themselves.

Passmeabottlemrjones · 30/12/2020 08:48

Whilst my young Positive son who contracted it from another friend at school and the rest of us were isolating for 14 days, husband carried on going to work, shops, etc. and travelled into a now Tier 4 area to work. He did wear a mask and sanitise hands.

Yikes! You know when they say 'this is the reason the virus is spreading', well.....

I mean, I have broken the rules in minor ways quite a few times, but that's a different kettle of fish!

Sandsnake · 30/12/2020 08:48

I’m pretty compliant but have arranged to ‘bump into’ a friend and their child in the park on a couple of occasions this holiday. Both children are Reception and only just five, so most of their classmates can do this within the rules as they’re still four. Friend and I SD but we don’t strictly enforce it with the kids - although do tell them not to wrestle / hug / lick each other. We’ve taken being tier 4 pretty seriously - immediately changed cancelled Christmas plans etc.

TingTastic · 30/12/2020 08:48

Genuine question for all those who have broken the law to see loved ones - how would you feel if they came down with CV19 afterwards?

That question is what has made me adhere to all the rules (including Tier 4 Xmas rules), although we do have primary age children so we are risky as a household

Bluesheep8 · 30/12/2020 08:52

Genuine question for all those who have broken the law to see loved ones - how would you feel if they came down with CV19 afterwards?

This is why I couldn't go into my father's house on the day of his funeral. My area was in local lockdown at the time and it was against the law. I stood outside. This is what I'm saying about personal sacrifice.

annevonkleve · 30/12/2020 08:52

There was another thread about this yesterday and I said on that that I don't think I have actually broken the rules except for not always being 2m apart from friends when we've been running together.

However, yesterday I did, as I crossed from one tier 4 area into another. In fact I crossed multiple times, both to get to and from the start of my run, and then on the run itself, meandering across the border. I also don't know if leaving your area means your county or your district, in which case I crossed into about 3 Tier 4 areas in all and not just two.

IceCreamAndCandyfloss · 30/12/2020 08:55

Genuine question for all those who have broken the law to see loved ones - how would you feel if they came down with CV19 afterwards

Or if your family take it into work, school, medical appointments, shopping after and infect others? Maybe seriously?

RaspberryCoulis · 30/12/2020 08:56

Regularly.

We often leave our very small Council area for non-essential reasons, banned by Queen Nicola of Covid.

DD went to a friend's house for a haircut the week before Christmas.

I've had a friend in the house for a coffee - more than once.

Do I feel guilty about it? Not in the slightest and I will continue to flagrantly flout the rules in my own little ways.

CrackALack · 30/12/2020 08:58

I suspect you'll still get people lying when voting YABU because people like to feel morally superior but the vote is certainly reflecting what I would consider to be the reality for most I'm seeing IRL.

trappedsincesundaymorn · 30/12/2020 08:59

Oh I also went to the nearest shop which is a mile away in a lower tier as the boundary is just before it, the nearest one within my tier is 10 miles away otherwise.

whatthehelldowecare · 30/12/2020 09:00

@TingTastic

If anything happened to my dad I'd just have to live with that, but I know that if I hadn't his mental health would have deteriorated to such an extent since March that he probably wouldn't be here anyway. He is still going to work and travelling up and down the country for that, so me (who's wfh and not going anywhere else) popping over a couple of times a week, and my sister doing the same seems like a controlled risk in the grand scheme of things.

My friend's sister is a pharmacist in the Covid wards of a local hospital, they had a family gathering in October and her whole family got it from her and her gran ultimately passed away. I know she's really struggling now. If I worked in a Covid front line role like she does, I wouldn't be seeing my dad.

I know the roles don't accommodate for different severity of risk, but that's where I've been taking some small calculated risks for the greater good of my family and I won't apologise for that

Nanny0gg · 30/12/2020 09:00

@nicky7654

Yes I have and will carry on doing it as I'm not gullible to believe the rubbish regarding Covid. The rules make no sense and the figures of those dying are lies. They admitted it themselves. Our hospitals arnt swamped either but people needing life saving treatment are being refused it. I am sorry for the families whose loved ones are dying of untreated conditions especially cancer and heart issues!!!!
Not bloody sorry enough!!

Whilst they're looking for vaccines for covid I hope they come across a cure for Stupid 😠😡

Nanny0gg · 30/12/2020 09:01

@IceCreamAndCandyfloss

Genuine question for all those who have broken the law to see loved ones - how would you feel if they came down with CV19 afterwards

Or if your family take it into work, school, medical appointments, shopping after and infect others? Maybe seriously?

Doubt it ☹
QuentinWinters · 30/12/2020 09:02

I kept staying at my partners before support bubbles were introduced.
We can't live together because our children are st school 50 miles apart and we both have 50/50 care.
I think it was inhumane to expect people in our circumstances to just not see their partner indefinitely (as it was at the time)

ChipsAndDip · 30/12/2020 09:06

I can't vote but yes I have broken the rules. We made an illegal support bubble, me, DP, DS(2), my parents and then DB, DSIL and DN(3&7). We know the risks and if any one of us had symptoms we all isolated. It's what's needed for our family to function, my parents are our childcare.

I have also seen a friend in their home and her in mine a few times.

Nanny0gg · 30/12/2020 09:06

@firstimemamma

Yes - sometimes (1-2 times per week max) my 2 year old plays with other children. He's an only child and there is nothing else for him to do now. No nearby family and his dad works long hours (nhs frontline). It's hard.

I can't fully isolate him for such a long period of time - I'd feel cruel. I've got a PGCE with an early years specialism and have a good understanding of socialising in the crucial first years of life and how important it is. Everyone I know is doing the same except for one friend whose toddler hasn't seen another child at all since March. I just couldn't put my child through that and don't care what anyone else thinks of that.

Well the friend is clearly taking it to extremes.

And socialising has been possible as nurseries are open and we have had periods when we could meet up

drspouse · 30/12/2020 09:08

When we were in local lockdown, our area had just as low rates as the next area over which wasn't. My mum and dad were on holiday there and we met them for the only time this year. I don't think I was BU as we looked at both districts' local rates before deciding.

TalkinBoutMyyyyyDog · 30/12/2020 09:10

Still see my mum and dad.

Dad is single and lives alone so I'm his bubble I guess. He also WFH.

My mum and her husband have been WFH throughout as have I. Still see her normally, go in her house for brew etc... She came over to us on Christmas Eve and boxing day, she's coming on new year's.

All of us shop online. It's basically the only places I go.

offtherails69 · 30/12/2020 09:11

yes

Warsawa31 · 30/12/2020 09:12

Yeah went out for a walk two days before isolation period ended

Nanny0gg · 30/12/2020 09:13

This thread is unbelievably depressing. The 'I'm all right Jack' attitude of some of the posts just shows why its so bad and why its going to go on.

Some have broken the rules 'responsibly' if you like, but the real Stuff The Lot Of You posts are truly frightening

Positivevibesonlyplease · 30/12/2020 09:14

This is all so depressing. Why do so many people believe the rules don’t apply to them? I’ve followed the rules to the letter and will continue to do so, because it’s the right thing to do. That doesn’t make me pious, sanctimonious, or ‘on a pedestal,’ it just means that I have a social conscience and care about other people, hospitals, NHS staff and us getting out of this sooner, rather than later. The ‘later’ will happen because of those who only care about themselves and their nearest and dearest, rather than the majority. We appear to be a nation full of horrible, selfish, thoughtless losers - illustrated by the Sydney backpackers. Thank you to those kind, unselfish people who’ve done their absolute best to conform - I know you’re there, even if you’re outnumbered 3-1 on this depressing poll.

Rosebel · 30/12/2020 09:14

I'm not actually sure. I'm in a support bubble with my parents and saw them at Christmas but my sister and niece also came round..
So confused by constantly changing rules I can't even work out if we broke the rules or not.

Nanny0gg · 30/12/2020 09:16

@Pastanred

Not really

I’m mixed throughout as have all my friends and I know not a single person who’s got it - or had it for months -tier 3

You have no idea whether or not you are asymptomatic and have passed it on.

Why do you know better than virologist and epidemiologists?

The rampant stupidity and selfishness is mind-blowing