Page 12 | Those wanting school open - are you not worried about your DC?

Hicksville21 · 2020-12-28T18:42:24+00:00

Just that really. Do you not think it’s time to keep our kids home safe until this wave passes?

user1506328491 · 28/12/2020 21:17

@hicksville21 - to give you the answer you're looking for, no, I'm not worried about my children's health. I'm a feckless and uncaring mother and only care about access to free childcare that the school so conveniently provides.

Do you feel vindicated?

cantkeepawayforever · 28/12/2020 21:17

I am not worried about DD.

I am worried about the impact on her if she brings it back to me and I am ill (CV). DS had it after returning to university, and his greatest relief by far was not that he wasn't too ill, but that he had not passed it on to us.

user1506328491 · 28/12/2020 21:18

@hicksville21 alternatively, could you provide uncaring types with the evidence that children face a serious risk from getting covid?

hamstersarse · 28/12/2020 21:19

The IFR for children is estimated to be 0.00004%

Do you see why others might think you are being a little bit dramatic?!!

gh.bmj.com/content/bmjgh/5/9/e003094.full.pdf

Keepdistance · 28/12/2020 21:19

Lol to Crazycatlady83 giving them shingles. They didnt blame you as you cant catch shingles from CP!! Its the other way round children can catch cp from shingles rashes by touching them. So not obvious it came from you at all. But

Imo people should be concerned about long term damage to kids. There are kids with long covid. And that is without catching this multiple times

Ylvamoon · 28/12/2020 21:19

@LoveNote
more concerned for their 'mental heath'? What mental health problems are you all seeing?

My happy outgoing DD 16, completely withdrew from life. Couldn't see her friends, didn't see any point in doing things. Been dropped by school like a hot potato back in spring (was y11...)
She has now developed social & health anxiety, it's fulled by college, that is mostly online learning and has very little opportunities for getting to know the other students...

It's severe enough for an emergency referral to mental health- they have a 6 weeks waiting list...

Is that enough for you?

user1506328491 · 28/12/2020 21:20

NB- school closures may have to happen because of community transmission (acceptable) but this is not a victory for those who smug types who are the only people who purport to care about their children

tilder · 28/12/2020 21:21

@LoveNote

more concerned for their 'mental heath'?

what mental health problems are you all seeing?

Panic attacks. Hysteria. Hyperventilating. Stress resulting in physical symptoms. Occasional vomiting.

Enough to be going on? Am sure it's all great for her long term mental health as well

MarshaBradyo · 28/12/2020 21:22

[quote hamstersarse]The IFR for children is estimated to be 0.00004%

Do you see why others might think you are being a little bit dramatic?!!

gh.bmj.com/content/bmjgh/5/9/e003094.full.pdf[/quote]
This is helpful to see

Re op I’m not totally blasé but not overly worried

Lastbonestanding · 28/12/2020 21:23

The risk to all individuals is incredibly low and even lower for children so no I'm not worried for my children. Even vulnerable and elderly people are highly unlikely to be seriously affected.

cantkeepawayforever · 28/12/2020 21:24

Panic attacks. Hysteria. Hyperventilating. Stress resulting in physical symptoms. Occasional vomiting.

Ah, yes. Fairly normal for a primary teacher, under current circumstances, I would say.

Those worrying about the mental health of children should spare a thought for the mental health of school staff, knowingly walking into an unsafe workplace every day, with plans written and re-written for every possible combination of in school and online.

kowari · 28/12/2020 21:27

[quote OppsUpsSide]@kowari that must have been horrible, hope he’s ok.[/quote]
He was better once I sent him in to school. I wish I had done it sooner but I thought school would be back by May at the latest and he was 13 so didn't need childcare. Even though he was doing the same work as he would have been doing at home he got to interact with other children and they did PE every day which was good for him (not a sporty child). He has been fine since September.

Seriouslymole · 28/12/2020 21:29

@NataliaOsipova

Much more worried about the impact of them if they don’t go back. And my kids are enormously privileged; the impact on disadvantaged kids would be staggering.

If we wanted, as a matter of public policy, to widen the gap between privileged middle class kids and those without many advantages, we couldn’t do it better than close schools for a long period of time....

This says everything I want to say. My children are relatively privileged and I worry enormously about what they would miss out on if they didn’t go to school. Yes I care about their health but as risk assessments go, the risk to their mental health from not being at school far outweighs the risk to their physical health.

hamstersarse · 28/12/2020 21:30

@cantkeepawayforever

Panic attacks. Hysteria. Hyperventilating. Stress resulting in physical symptoms. Occasional vomiting.

Ah, yes. Fairly normal for a primary teacher, under current circumstances, I would say.

Those worrying about the mental health of children should spare a thought for the mental health of school staff, knowingly walking into an unsafe workplace every day, with plans written and re-written for every possible combination of in school and online.

Your attitude towards children stinks. Badly.

You need to have a word with yourself about how selfish you are being. This isn’t all about you.

OppsUpsSide · 28/12/2020 21:30

@kowari I’m glad he’s ok, you did what you thought was best at the time which is all any of us can do. Parenting teens is a bit of a guessing game at the best of times!

Mamascoven · 28/12/2020 21:32

Not worried in the slightest. They are happiest In school and if they happen to catch it and bring it home to me and their father who are young (26 & 33) and perfectly healthy then so be it. More worried about schools closing If I'm honest.

Isitbedtimeyet10 · 28/12/2020 21:33

We are in Leeds. First half term in September the north's figures skyrocketed and my DDs primary had 26 cases. No mention of closures. Second part of the term they had 1 case and presently no current cases. So no, no worry. And no reason to close.

cantkeepawayforever · 28/12/2020 21:34

Excuse me?

I walk into school, every day. I teach a class of over 30, in unssafe conditions, daily. I plan, and replan, and replan, so that every child in school or out gets tghe best possible teaching. I work with children with SEN, who cannot get professional assessment because none of the other children's services are working properly so we have to do all the work in school. I work with parents who have lost jobs, to get them the support they need.

But yes, I am scared. I suffer sick anxiety daily. I am older and CV. I teach, and i isolate, to avoid danger to others from the unsafe conditions i am exposed to.

I also have a DC still at school, and while I would like her to remain in school, I worry about her ECV teacher, her CV teacher, her pregnant teacher, and the elderly grandmother a friend lives with.

But yes, of course, I'm selfish....

hiddenotter · 28/12/2020 21:34

No, DD isn't particularly at risk and neither are any of our family. She needs the interaction and education at school, so of course I want her school to remain open.

toocold54 · 28/12/2020 21:36

For those talking about mental health. Do you work in schools?

I would say I have seen more mental health issues arising from them being IN school because they are worried about mixing and then going home and giving it to a loved one.
I feel behaviour has become worse because they are too embarrassed about saying they are worried so it’s building up inside them and coming out in different ways or they are purposely trying to get sent home.

To those who have said their DCs have suffered MH issues like hiding knifes - this is not normal and I would be seeking help to understand why this has happened as there must be a cause bigger than being off school. Many kids are home schooled or have health issues so miss lots of school and don’t react in this way. It may be that they are more concerned about the virus than they are letting on. Please seek help.

Inastatus · 28/12/2020 21:37

No

Frozenintime · 28/12/2020 21:37

Yes I'm worried about his mental health which was in a bad way in lockdown

cantkeepawayforever · 28/12/2020 21:37

You need to have a word with yourself about how selfish you are being. This isn’t all about you.

Why isn't this about school staff? For a school to be open, I has to be staffed. As schools are unsafe, all the staff are unsafe. We accept that, and teach your children to the absolute best of our ability. We put on our game faces, and assure parents that we love being in school.

I would say that, perhaps, teaching full time in unsafe conditions DESPITE being stressed to the point of physical illness every day is perhaps more unselfish rather than the reverse?

LEELULUMPKIN · 28/12/2020 21:39

Not in the slightest. I do have concerns for the teaching staff etc though.

UneFoisAuChalet · 28/12/2020 21:41

I am genuinely shocked at the mental health issues children are experiencing because of school closures.

I struggled to get mine dressed every morning and they spent far too much time alone as I worked but for the most part they were unscathed. I got them outside with the dogs for at least one hour a day and we’ve been doing the couch to 5k. They’d much rather be at school of course, but they’d also like to have their friends over, go to birthday parties, etc. But it’s a pandemic. They know that their cousins in Holland and Canada are also bored out of their minds. It’s not a unique situation. All we can do as parents is talk to them , reassure them, ensure they have hope in the future.

I don’t think I’m a glass full type of person but reading these posts, I evidently am. We make the best out of an absolute shit situation and pray that it’ll be over soon.